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« on: April 18, 2007, 05:21:54 AM »

Tony says he's ready to "Retire" because he gets booed by 140,000 people every time he goes around the track. Waaa! He makes more money than God, but he can't take the terrible abuse. What a tough guy he is! Jeff Gordon gets lots of Boos too, but you don't hear him saying it makes him want to quit. IMO, Tony should just take his money and leave the sport if he can't take the heat.
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« Reply #1 on: April 18, 2007, 06:21:15 AM »

Tony says he's ready to "Retire" because he gets booed by 140,000 people every time he goes around the track. Waaa! He makes more money than God, but he can't take the terrible abuse. What a tough guy he is! Jeff Gordon gets lots of Boos too, but you don't hear him saying it makes him want to quit. IMO, Tony should just take his money and leave the sport if he can't take the heat.
I heard Tony say that on t.v. I can't believe that he has that many people booing him, or that Jr fans were throwing beer cans at his car. Those two are really good friends, and most Jr fans I know also like Tony. It wasn't his fault Jr wrecked, it was Tony Tiger's fault, and let's not forget Juan Penis Montoya. IMO jeff Gordon is the biggest whiner out there. He's always crying about something. Hey, I say give Tony a break. He had a bad day. Don't we all?
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« Reply #2 on: April 18, 2007, 11:06:59 AM »

IMO jeff Gordon is the biggest whiner out there. He's always crying about something. Hey, I say give Tony a break. He had a bad day. Don't we all?

Yeah, that Gordon fella sure is a whiner!  Here's what he had to say after the Texas race:

“For some strange way, it will be my fault for some reason.  It always is."

"Look at all the Junior fans that are mad at me. … I didn't even see what happened to Junior. I know I caused it, obviously."

“He didn’t make friends with me today, so he won’t get any help from me in the future.”

What a crybaby!  You'd think a guy Gordon's age would gain a little maturity.  Must be goin' after the Pampers sponsorship!   Grin


Oh, but wait a second.  My bad.  That wasn't Jeffy Pooh.  It was some other driver.  One that NEVER whines.  He just expresses his opinions.  Wanna guess??   Grin

http://www.star-telegram.com/340/story/69737.html

http://sports.espn.go.com/rpm/news/story?series=2&id=2541628



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« Reply #3 on: April 18, 2007, 12:34:48 PM »

Oh yes!  Watching this unfold is like relish on a hot dog for a 24 fan, LOL!

By the way, isn't there a difference between venting (showing frustration) and simple whining?  If you don't care enough about what you are doing to show frustration when something goes wrong, then how much respect do you deserve?  Even Jeff Burton, the currently most respected guy in Cup racing, shows frustration from time to time.  That doesn't make him a cry baby. 

Whining is something that people with a lack of maturity do.  Whining is (according to Websters) to complain with or as if with a whine <always whining about the weather>.  There is only one guy I hear whine on a fairly regular basis and he isn't Jeff Gordon, even though Jeff has admitted that he has been known to whine from time to time.
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« Reply #4 on: April 18, 2007, 01:29:28 PM »

I cant help but laugh here. So Tony complaining " its not fun anymore cause I am being booed"

Is just expressing his opinion and that hes upset cause he had a bad day.........But Jeff says something about not being able to pass and then admits to making a mistake hitting the wall is

So lets see being a man and admiting that you made a mistake is a whiner but its not funy anymore is just expressing your opinion

What a joke
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« Reply #5 on: April 18, 2007, 03:55:38 PM »

Sorry if you don't like my opinion of the oh so precious Jeff Gordon. My comments had NOTHING to do with this weeks race. Hey it's just my opinion from what I have witnessed myself watching races. I have only been watching Nascar for 3 years now, and when someone starts a topic about Tony Stewart being a whiner, my first thoughts were that I have heard JG whine WAY more than Tony!
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« Reply #6 on: April 18, 2007, 07:05:45 PM »



Why do I hear Creedence Clearwater Revival..Playing in the Back Ground.....Full Moon A Rising...Baby !


Have we all vented sufficiently...yet....Now Follow Me...10...9...8...7..starting to feel better Yet ? ... No ? 6..5....let me know when it's all better...Ok !   
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« Reply #7 on: April 18, 2007, 09:23:14 PM »

I cant help but laugh here. So Tony complaining " its not fun anymore cause I am being booed"

Is just expressing his opinion and that hes upset cause he had a bad day.........But Jeff says something about not being able to pass and then admits to making a mistake hitting the wall is

So lets see being a man and admiting that you made a mistake is a whiner but its not funy anymore is just expressing your opinion

Now, now plove.  Our boy Tony is just the consummate pro, workin' on locking up that Pampers sponsorship.   Grin

I about put a vase through my TV when the talking heads "pulled a BP" and ooohed and aaahed over Mr. Stewart's "car control" after he spun himself out.  Yeah, it was a nice catch.  But a driver with good car control wouldn't have spun himself out to begin with.   Angry

Which brings me to another point.  Poor little Shrub the Younger is being excoriated for driving into smoke.  Driving through smoke is an outrage!  Dale Earnhardt never drove through smoke.  Richard Petty never drove through smoke,  David Pearson never drove through smoke.  Bobby Allison never drove through smoke.  Terry LaBonte never drove through smoke.  Mark Martin never drove through smoke.  Etc, etc, etc.   

Oh wait!  That's wrong.  Those guys drove through smoke all the time.  In fact, if you DIDN'T drive through smoke, you probably needed some rags and kerosene.  Now NA$CAR has tried to make things safer by eliminating racing back through the caution, and that’s a good thing.  But I haven't heard anyone say that race officials threw the caution for the pirouetting Mr. Smoke BEFORE Kyle got to the 8 car.  Which means whether to brake hard and/or shoot high or low is a snap judgment that a driver has to make.  Fox’s GPS tracking graphics (which are pretty cool BTW) showed that Little E drifted a little higher as he slowed and Kyle went high, clipping the 8’s right rear.  If anything, Junior might have been better off holding his line rather than drifting into the high lane where cars were likely to be trying to go high at speed.  Which may have been why June Bug got out of the car and didn’t behave like Tony the Terrible.

But the real question is why does the Little Shrub get blamed and the Furry Pumpkin get a free pass?  The 20’s recovery was a nice piece of driving BUT….  I can recall hearing drivers talk about how to save a spinning car.  You turn the wheel a certain way.  You lock ‘em down for a certain period of time.  And, when the time is right, you nail the gas.  BUT, when nailing the gas, you’ve got to remember that you’re going to obscure the track behind you, creating a serious danger for yourself and the cars racing behind you.  Sometimes it’s smarter to just ride the car down the track, wait for the caution, and race to get your position back.  Of course, our Boy “I’m-Tony-And-You’re-Not” Stewart didn’t exactly get a free pass.  After all, 180,000 beer-can-chuckin’ rednecks can’t be wrong, right Tony?   Grin

So now he's gonna take his football and go home.  Cry 

In the immortal words of Cousin Carl, ““How can a person make it this far in life and be that much of a jerk?”   Grin
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« Reply #8 on: April 18, 2007, 11:40:55 PM »

Well I honestly doubt Stewart will retire for this and knowing Stewart he will show up next week and say, Surprise. Then he will tell everyone he did it so the people who don't like him could have something to talk about. Now that would be Funny.

Didn't this same type thing happen to J.Gordon at Talledega? Oh thats right they just Threw Bud cans at his car.

I think the funny part is watching all the J.Gordon fans act like Starving Great White Sharks after someone throws in an ounce of Flesh.

Most of the time Stewart doesn't whine he just tells people off when he gets mad but I think this is because of the Friendship he and Jr have and maybe he felt bad for what happened.

Stewart wasn't whining he took a little FIT as my Mother used to say but a Whiner is someone who does it Often LOL.

I can see where Stewart is coming from. Stewart didn't cause the damage to Jr's car that was all Kyle Busch, Well and his Spotter. I heard Jr get out of the throttle when they did the In-Car so that tells me Kyle Busch had even more time to slow down but he didn't. I can understand it would be hard NOT to crash with all the smoke but he hit Jr a Ton and you could tell the way Jr's car came off the ground. I just wonder if the Spotter seen Stewarts car near the grass so he told Kyle to go high and floor it because he may have thought the caution wasn't going to come out because I know I didn't think it would.
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« Reply #9 on: April 18, 2007, 11:48:27 PM »

Oh yes!  Watching this unfold is like relish on a hot dog for a 24 fan, LOL!

By the way, isn't there a difference between venting (showing frustration) and simple whining?  If you don't care enough about what you are doing to show frustration when something goes wrong, then how much respect do you deserve?  Even Jeff Burton, the currently most respected guy in Cup racing, shows frustration from time to time.  That doesn't make him a cry baby. 

Whining is something that people with a lack of maturity do.  Whining is (according to Websters) to complain with or as if with a whine <always whining about the weather>.  There is only one guy I hear whine on a fairly regular basis and he isn't Jeff Gordon, even though Jeff has admitted that he has been known to whine from time to time.

Now smyler I thought you would be the last person to INSULT someone. Below is a Comment you made to me, Remember?

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By the way, why is it necessary to call names like Jeffy Poo?  I'm not asking this as an insult (although calling names like that is one).  I know that writing insults is sometimes meant by the writer to get others upset.  I try and not let it work that way in me, but sometimes I have to admit that it wears down on me.  My faith in the goodness of humanity is sorely tested.  I am not going to stop coming here as I thought about doing 2 X before because that would be letting insulters win.  I was just wondering if you make insults like that to people you know in real life and/or how you would feel if someone insulted you that way?

I had to go there LOL. Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

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« Reply #10 on: April 19, 2007, 07:35:45 AM »

Tony has a tendancy to get out of the car all geeked up on adrenaline and spout off before he has time to cool off. I don't view him as a whiner as much as I see him as excitable. And he isn't retiring anytime soon, as his comments on his radio show prove. "I didn't mean to put all of our fans in a three-alarm fire situation. It was more just emotion speaking than it was common sense. Trust me, there's one thing I can promise you: I'm not retiring before my contract is up."

Personally, I like when a driver gets out and fires off... it reminds me of days gone by (i.e.: Sr about Rudd, Wilkesboro '89: "They oughta fine that sumbitch and suspend him for the rest of the season."  And DW about Rusty, '89 Winston: "I hope he chokes on the 250 grand.") Tony is known for this, although I usually take his rant with a grain of salt.

BTW — and let me preface this by saying I'm not a member of the Red Army — I believe most of the drivers on the circuit could take a lesson by how Junior handles himself after a wreck or upon completion of a race. As for Jeffy: Keep whining, buddy... it, in turn,  gives everyone in here something more to whine about!

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« Reply #11 on: April 19, 2007, 07:40:13 AM »

Lets all get one thing straight. Tony is not retiring any time soon. Back in 02 and 04 Tony said he was going to retire. He never did. It was all his frustrations talking. What he said on his radio show 2 days ago was that it was his frustrations talking and not his common sense. He also commented on the jr fans. He said now that he wish he didn't take it so personally but he was just having a bad day acually a bad week and things just kept piling up. And finally he commented on the JPM accident. He said that he should have just allowed JPM to pass him and talk to him after the race. Tony was just mad at JPM because JPM tried to put Tony in a 3 wide deal on a restart with 110 laps to go. So when JPM wanted to pass Tony 15 laps later Tony didn't want to make JPM's life easy so he raced him hard. Goes back to you race guys how they race you. JPM raced Tony like an idiot or I guess a rookie so Tony did the same. Which now Tony wishes he didn't. He made his bad day worse. Which he admitted to. It just seems like people are giving JPM a free pass on really acting like an idiot 2 weeks in a row. Had that been Tony wecking people 2 weeks in a row the fans would be going out of their mind. As would the media people.
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« Reply #12 on: April 19, 2007, 07:44:49 AM »

I sure agree with that! JPM IS getting an awful lot of leeway thats not normally given to most, and the apologists are nearly breaking their legs trying to be the most apologetic for him.

I suspect ( and this is NOT a racist thing by any means... it s about $$) it has something to do with attracting the Hispanic fan base to NASCAR. Wink
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« Reply #13 on: April 19, 2007, 08:48:42 AM »

flame, old boy, you quoted me as saying I gave an insult.  I didn't.  I'm just sitting back and watching the show.  Read what I wrote again and see I specifically didn't insult.  I even went so far as to say that I understood the frustration Tony felt.  The fun was coming in watching someone other than Jeff have all the taunts and ridicule.  I'm not saying it is fair.  It's just that 20 fans have been some of the biggest 24 haters, so it is interesting to see how Tony handled the pressure.  I remember when Jeff had all the beer cans thrown at Talladega.  He actually laughed about it.  That was a race that could have been called either way and I don't think Jeff would have been complaining if Jr. had been called the winner.  Do you?

Most of these guys are friends, at least to some point.  There are countless interviews where these guys tell stories about each other and say that their fans might be surprised if they knew such and such was their friend. 

I used to loath Tony, but I grew up. He's just a driver.  He has a ton of talent.  I may find his style to be self serving, but how far would he have gotten if he'd always been Mr. Nice Guy?  Not far, I'm sure.  Racing would be boring if everyone was like Jeff Burton (not a swipe at JB.  He is a heck of a driver and I like and respect him).  I guess the reason why I like JG is because he is just a bit of both of those styles.

Two weeks from now this will barely be a memory.  Tony might win at Phoenix.  Stranger things have happened.  If he does, who is going to remember that after race comment?  In a good natured way, I hope all sides can see how it is fun(ny) to see the tables turned a bit, seeing the Red army booing Tony instead of Jeff for a change.  It's part of what makes being a NASCAR fan a fun thing.  Don't you think?  As the Wheel Turns.  Tune in for episode 8 on Saturday night.
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« Reply #14 on: April 19, 2007, 09:21:54 AM »

All it is is frustration.  Tony had a tough day at TMS, and he got booed because Dale Jr was wrecked with Tony's second spin.  It's no big deal and he'll feel better by Phoenix if he doesn't feel better already.  It's really not a big deal and he's not gonna retire.  Everyone's entitled to having a bad day every now and then.  Besides...I'd certainly rather be talking about Tony whining than some of the other things we were talking about a couple years back.
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