Should Greg Biffle be the Winner?

[flamehothead]

I was under the impression that the driver had to be able to keep up with the Pace car and you had to do it under your own power.

I agree with Jimmie Johnson, Biffle should finish where he crossed the line because the rest of the field can't stop and wait for him nor can anyone push him.

Then Biffle said the car had fuel but Nascar told him to push it to Victory Lane because they (Nascar) didn't want anyone to mess with the car.

Does Biffle/Nascar think we the fans are Stupid.? Biffle may have rolled across the line but he wasn't where he was supposed to be so IMO Biffle did NOT win that race.

[S.D. Grady]

I admit to being confused.    I can't wait to hear NASCAR's reasoning for this one.  I've nothing against the Biff...but this don't make sense.  If the yellow comes out, the field freezes.  Yep.  Get that.  But, the car has to maintain Pace Car speed!  And I agree...I'm a bit skeptical about Biff saying the car would run, but NASCAR didn't want him to drive it.  Nope.  Don't buy it.

[KurtBuschFan]

Yeah I haven't quite understood it.  nascar.com is reporting that Biffle won under caution because the field was frozen, but at the same time their results show Bowyer as the winner....and points leader.  Something's wrong with this picture.

[racin_girl72]

It doesn't make sense to me that he was declared the winner due to the field is frozen line of thinking.  Well if the field was frozen...what would have happened if he would have run out of gas on the backstretch?  Whether it's a 1 yard difference or 1 mile difference the rule should apply the same way.

[KurtBuschFan]

Hey!  We actually agree on something tonight Cami!

[flamehothead]

When the Caution came out and Nascar said they were NOT going to restart the race that pretty much gave the win to Biffle BUT Biffle had to get to the Start/Finish line first before he actually WON the race and he did NOT do that. Then Nascar telling him to PUSH the car to victory lane, What the hell is up with that?

I know the field was froze but Biffle has to keep up with the Pace Car and he did NOT do that.

The winner should be Clint Boyer because he was the first car across the Start/Finish line.

[SMOKEN14]

When the Caution came out and Nascar said they were NOT going to restart the race that pretty much gave the win to Biffle BUT Biffle had to get to the Start/Finish line first before he actually WON the race and he did NOT do that. Then Nascar telling him to PUSH the car to victory lane, What the hell is up with that?

I know the field was froze but Biffle has to keep up with the Pace Car and he did NOT do that.

The winner should be Clint Boyer because he was the first car across the Start/Finish line.

the rule states you must maintain resinable speed which Biffle did Also you can not pass under catuion which Johnson did. Biffle is the winner

[Matt]

Hmmm. Didn't NASCAR say that Robby Gordon wasn't leading the race at Montreal because he failed to maintain the minimum field despite the field being frozen under caution? So which is it, reasonable speed or pace car speed? Thier own timing and scoring showed Biffile finishing fourth. Bizarre/

[paulfan]

You're right Matt, Nascar stated that Robby did not maintain pace car speed even though the field was frozen.

Come on Nascar, get your s@#t together.

Another example of inconsistancy

[FS_Amy]

Yeah, not maintaing a reasonable speed was the reason they gave for busting Roby back positions at Montreal.  They also busted Junior and Johnson positions at Talladega last fall becasue they were wrecking across the line and therefore not at a "reasonable" speed.  Uh, correct me if I'm wrong, but weren't they all going FASTER THAN BIFFLE!?  

Bowyer won the race because Biffle could not keep up with the pace car.  Johnson passed him becasusue Bowyer also slowed down when Biffle did, but even he said it should have been Bowyer.  NASCAR's bad call also cost Bowyer the points lead.  The blatant favoritism is getting real old, real fast.

[SMOKEN14]

IF it had been favortism Jimmy Johnson Would of been given the win You can't pass under yellow Biffle was the winner

[Matt]

You can pass under yellow if the driver ahead of you can't maintain pace car speed. At least twenty cars passed Robby Gordon at Montreal. NASCAR told him to restart 21st. What Robby did afterwards I don't condone but you can't have one standard for Robby Gordon and another for Greg Biffle.

And for that matter you can't just say we aren't going to have a green white checker finish after all....and that Tony Stewart doesn't get penalized for cursing because the curse wasn't "Clear" enough. Mike Wallace got fined for cursing even though he thought the interview was over.

I'll be honest. I am so disgusted with this sport after today I am seriously thinking about retiring after this season. The ratio of good races to poor ones this season has been way too low. The Car of Tomorrow will probably extend that ratio next year. Today was a beautiful fall day here in Eastern PA. I have a new Harley in the garage. I have a new 76 Trans Am in the garage. I wish I'd gone out and enjoyed them today rather than watching a seven hour race that just left me pissed off. Winter will be here soon and the toys will be packed away for many dark months. The pellet stove needs fixing, the truck needs a clutch, the Chevelle needs to be restored...and I waste a day watching a race that just leaves me furious. I am thinking right now I am an idiot.

[highbank]

of coarse he won the race, he crossed the line under his own power, well with in "contact" with the pace car.

Nice to see a conspiracy theory started by an idoit driver instead of one of his idiot fans.
"Jeff and Little Jiminy are whining, it must be true"

Please

[Tyyrus]

I was under the impression that the driver had to be able to keep up with the Pace car and you had to do it under your own power.

I agree with Jimmie Johnson, Biffle should finish where he crossed the line because the rest of the field can't stop and wait for him nor can anyone push him.

Then Biffle said the car had fuel but Nascar told him to push it to Victory Lane because they (Nascar) didn't want anyone to mess with the car.

Does Biffle/Nascar think we the fans are Stupid.? Biffle may have rolled across the line but he wasn't where he was supposed to be so IMO Biffle did NOT win that race.

Well I got back in from Hunting Camp kinda late , watched a little of the Race Re-Cap , but will follow further tonight seemed like I missed a whole lot of rain an controversy lol !

[Blu]

That was...bizarre

I have feeling I will never quite understand how a lot of things happened today.....


Matt...can I come help with the Chevelle??