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« on: June 02, 2008, 08:08:13 AM »

Denny Hamlin comes barrel assing into a wreck late, at seemingly full bore. Much like Larry Gunselman in the whatever series. When interviewed soon after, he said there were cars behind & he didn't want to get run into. Blame the cars behind. Yeah right! Like it's better to come ripping in & T-bone someone rather than taking a chance on getting rear-ended. Then after he apparently had time to think up a more plausible reason. He says he jumped hard on the brakes, but the COC, (that's Car Of Crap) don't slow down like the old one. Yeah Right again. Blame the car! Everyone else seemed to be able to slow down. They still got in the wreck, but at least they were polite about it.

 He seems to have no trouble throwing anyone else under the bus, including his own crew. He does however, seem to have some responsibility issues. He may be about to learn. That when he throws a concrete  block, someone may drop a boulder on him.
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« Reply #1 on: June 02, 2008, 10:12:34 AM »

 LOL at the "concrete block" vs. "boulder" comment.

 After getting plenty of replays from FOX (R.I.P. til '09) it seemed some of those guys were racing for position. I think they were thinking "Days of Thunder" and thought they could thread the needle. We know how well that worked out. Jr. got it slowed down and he was right behind the wreck, only to get hit from behind. Poor job by some spotters? Who knows. David Gilliland should have given Sadler some room, especially so early in the race.

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« Reply #2 on: June 02, 2008, 06:44:08 PM »

LOL

Just a minute ago, I said Shayne was dead on with his thoughts in another thread. Gotta disagree with you on this one though buddy!

Sadler clearly came down on him. And, if you watch those many replays again, it appears to me that Gilliland EVEN SLOWED UP, trying to give Sadler some room.

Gilliland held his line on the bottom of the track. That wreck was clearly ALL Sadler and his spotter. Gilliland is not to blame at all.
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« Reply #3 on: June 02, 2008, 07:52:46 PM »

I've just spent the last few minutes watching and rewatching multiple replays of the accident....looks to me like Elliott Sadler came down into Gilliland not the other way around. 
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« Reply #4 on: June 02, 2008, 10:05:46 PM »

I don't why Sadler was moving down as far as he was going but it doesn't matter his reason. He moved down when he wasn't clear.  He once again causes a wreck with less than 20 laps INTO a race. Unbelievable.
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« Reply #5 on: June 03, 2008, 06:11:23 AM »

Hey now, be fair there-Sadler's spotter is mostly to blame on that one-Gilliland was in a blind spot and it was highly unlikely that Elliott saw him, even if he did have a side mirror.  With all the head protection they have in the car now, drivers can basically see what's right in front of them and what 's in the rearview mirror.  That leaves a lot of blind spots that the spotter is responsible for. Sadler was the driver, so in that respect, the ultimate responsibility falls on him, but if his spotter saw him trying to move down a groove (nobody liked the middle or high groove early on), you'd think a "Car Inside" might have been in order.  Also, and while it wasn't Gilliland's fault, he could see Sadler, while Sadler couldn't see him.  That early, in that situation, backing out might have been a smarter racing decision.
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« Reply #6 on: June 03, 2008, 08:17:57 AM »

  Also, and while it wasn't Gilliland's fault, he could see Sadler, while Sadler couldn't see him.  That early, in that situation, backing out might have been a smarter racing decision.

Good point, Amy.   
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« Reply #7 on: June 03, 2008, 08:36:47 AM »

Hey now, be fair there-Sadler's spotter is mostly to blame on that one-Gilliland was in a blind spot and it was highly unlikely that Elliott saw him, even if he did have a side mirror.  With all the head protection they have in the car now, drivers can basically see what's right in front of them and what 's in the rearview mirror.  That leaves a lot of blind spots that the spotter is responsible for. Sadler was the driver, so in that respect, the ultimate responsibility falls on him, but if his spotter saw him trying to move down a groove (nobody liked the middle or high groove early on), you'd think a "Car Inside" might have been in order.  Also, and while it wasn't Gilliland's fault, he could see Sadler, while Sadler couldn't see him.  That early, in that situation, backing out might have been a smarter racing decision.

Sadler's spotter did say car inside. Maybe it was a little too late I don't know but it was said. And  Yeah I agree David should have backed off but I really don't think he was expecting Sadler to move that far down the track.  I will admit it though I'm probably a little bias with this beause I have just had it with sadler.  Wink
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« Reply #8 on: June 03, 2008, 09:33:50 PM »

Watch it all again and focus on David.  I say he DID back off as much as he could. It appears to me that David did slow when he saw sadler coming!  As I said in my previous post, I do believe Wink

People just want to seem to assign some of the blame on David just cuz hes the new guy. Roll Eyes
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« Reply #9 on: June 04, 2008, 08:21:33 AM »

Watch it all again and focus on David.  I say he DID back off as much as he could. It appears to me that David did slow when he saw sadler coming!  As I said in my previous post, I do believe Wink

People just want to seem to assign some of the blame on David just cuz hes the new guy. ::

I tend to agree with you. Seems like things have not been going too well for Sadler lately, & maybe he's pushing too much.
That was a pretty wild maneuver. I know about the restricted visibility due to the headrests, & all that. But unless they change things. Where the spotters drive by remote control(like the TV commercial) Then the driver is ultimately responsible.
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« Reply #10 on: June 04, 2008, 09:51:46 AM »

 On lap 80, Gilliland almost put Montoya in the wall. I'm sure Juan was at fault too. Crazy Colombian.

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« Reply #11 on: June 04, 2008, 10:11:20 AM »

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« Reply #12 on: June 04, 2008, 05:30:34 PM »

Sadler's spotter did say car inside. Maybe it was a little too late I don't know but it was said. And  Yeah I agree David should have backed off but I really don't think he was expecting Sadler to move that far down the track.  I will admit it though I'm probably a little bias with this beause I have just had it with sadler.  Wink
Yeah... Sadlers spotter DID tell him about Gilliland being there
First he TWICE said "looking low" (being a past NASCAR spotter, that is what you say when a car is inside you,.. but JUST off your rear bumper)...
Then the spotter twice said.. "car inside" which means that Gilliland had moved up inside the rear bumpers along side Sadlers quarter panel (or more)
SO like someone said.. Sadler SHOULD of know Gilliland was there... yet he got out and blamed someone else for the wreck.... sounds like someone else we know. 
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« Reply #13 on: June 04, 2008, 09:06:14 PM »

Well to be fair to Elliott, he could have seen a replay and changed his mind (I missed that part of the race, so if he did see a replay and sticked with his explanations, please don't throw anything at me).
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« Reply #14 on: June 05, 2008, 05:30:51 AM »

Best I remember it.. they went to interview him ... The announcer said "SO what happened,.. here's the replay"... Then he watched it and he had a fit he got run over...
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