Frontstretch Poll for the Week of October 23 - Car of Tomorrow

[KurtBuschFan]

Let's hear it.  What do yall think about the Car of Tomorrow?  Tommy Thompson and Amy Henderson weigh in here:  http://www.frontstretch.com/wtc/5871/

[skool]

2007 - Call it NASCROC or COTCAR  It all sucks

[Chris]

yeah.. I saw someone call it NASCRAP
or CoT
CRAP of Tomorrow

[smyler]

This monster is so ugly it makes Rosanne Barr look pretty.
It looks almost as boxy as the refrigerator box I used to play in as a kid.
It's so expensive that only multi car teams are going to be able to afford it.  Look out little guys.
The wing is so big that it makes the car look like a turkey.
Why don't they just make the cars all shaped like a watermelon?  It would make about as much sense.
The more I hear about it the bigger my regrets and worries are about next season. 
There is no way this car will still be here in five years. 
Did I mention I don't particularly care for it?

[IndyCarzGo]

So here we are again, just like the restrictor plates… The damn “Powers That Be” wanna take total control and reduce racing to a homogenized mess in the name of safety. Just like with the plates, I truly believe this will blow up in their faces big time (one can only hope)!!!

Why oh why is that of all the major racing sanction bodies, only one (NASCAR) feels as if they have to limit the power and aerodynamic performance of the cars in the name of safety. NO OTHER body does so… The only limitations in GT, Prototype, Indy F1…. and many others is the size of the wings on the cars (the must all be the same size for fairness) and limitations (not elimination totally) of the aerodynamics… No reduction in power…

Instead of this inane idea, I believe NASCAR should spend more time on educating and training drivers before they turn them loose on a track such as Talladega or Daytona…
What is truly missing is rookies having to fully pay their dues BEFORE being turned loose with a monster salary and monster pressures to win at ANY cost…

Ask Richard Petty, Buddy Baker, Freddie Lorenzen… Any and all of the old timers…they would all agree…It’s not the car… As always, it’s the “idiot” behind the wheel… This will only reduce fan interest and make for some awful boring racing…

Guess I’ll have to go back to F1, American LeMans and Indy for my need for speed….

As always…  THAT’S my opinion and I’m a-stickin’ with it…If ya disagree, just  Holla!!!

[flamehothead]

Car Of Total Disaster. If Nascar really want's to run this THING then I think they should hold off until 2008. It is WAY to LATE in the season and they are WAY to BEHIND to even run a selected few races in 2007. As if the team's have alot of time to sit and build car's that will have to be changed again and again. In my opinion Nascar should take a full season and do alot of testing and get the cars as close to the drivers liking as possible. I haven't heard one positive comment from a driver about the car yet. Granted Nascar is going to do what it wants regardless of what anyone thinks Period. If they don't want to totally ruin racing then I thnk this would be in there best interest.

[Chris]

If Nascar really want's to run this THING then I think they should hold off until 2008. It is WAY to LATE in the season and they are WAY to BEHIND to even run a selected few races in 2007

You know I wonder if this whole thing hasn't just turned into a big pissing match...
Back at the first of the year,.. Nascar kept 'urging" team owners to build these new CoT cars so they could get them out on the tracks and test them...
Roush, Hendrick, etc etc ALL held off on building because Nascar could not show them a FINAL (or nearly final) plan on what the car would look like and what to build.
As the year has progresses major changes have been made over and over to the car,... and it's a lot different from what it was to start with.
SO the owners were correct to hold off and NOT build the cars.  Their reasoning was this:  they would build the cars,.. and then Nascar goes and makes these changes,.. and what they built is just "junk". 
I agree with the owners,.. Nascar shouldn't be asking ANYONE to build cars until they KNOW what they want built.  If I was a car owner I wouldn't go spend tons of money, then have Nascar tell me "gee we've changed our minds,.. we need to do this,... and the changes are so different the chassis, rollbars, etc get moved (which is what happened) and the entire car is worthless.  SO teams with 3, 4, 5 cars LOGICALLY sat back and waited for more info to find out EXACTLY what to build before investing a million+ dollars.
NO use for it AT ALL.  None of this cost Nascar a DIME>  ALL the cost is on the team owners spending the money building the cars.  Nascar don't care what it cost them...
SO, Thats what's happened,.. not once but a couple times.  SO they would of built race cars that were never usable but for one test session,... then throw away.  These cost WAY to much money to just do like that.
NOW here we are at the end of the 2006 season,.. FINALLY Nascar has got all it's ducks in a row,.. and come up with what "looks" to be the pretty final plans for it's CoT and owners feel confident enough t go ahead and build the cars.
All the drivers are getting a chance to drive they and realize they are a piece of junk.
Along with that the owners are finding out that you have to cut the ENTIRE body off when a driver brushes the wall because all the templates fit together like a puzzle.  SO you can't just massage a fender and fix it like now (or replace a fender)
SO time fixing a car is gonna be greatly increased.

In any event I think Nascar is pissed that all the team owners didn't just jump out and spend 100's of thousands of dollars and change the cars at their every whim,.. so now I get the impression nascar thinks "Screw 'em if they don't like it.  They gonna drive it next year anyway... whether it's right or wrong"
To do otherwise would be for Nascar to admit they are wrong,.. and we ALL know that NEVER happens

[falcon325]

I heard a new complaint on the COT this weekend--I think it was from Kasey Kahne.  He said that the car is significantly hotter than the existing cars, which already can induce heat exhaustion on a hot day.   

Moving the driver to the center of the car offers more protection, but apparently there is a cost.  It apparently puts the driver right on top of the exhaust.

[Chris]

yeah,.. may be that,.. also being in the center of the car you are further away from the window,.. you get less of the air the does slip in the window...  you are more centered behind the firewall,.. so the center of the firewall will be hotter than the sides, (theoretically)
HECK,.. just TOUCHING a race car ... well you can't hardly put your hand on one when it's been sitting in the sun for a couple hours pre-race.  When we raced CTS we painted it BLACK one race,.. MAN it was hot HOT... That black sure adsorbed heat.
The next week we went back to white.  Made the car a lot cooler (just to the touch),.. so you know it made it cooler inside.
That why you see very few dark colored cars in racing.
I give Kyle Petty credit for racing that all black car in honor of Adam every race at N.H..... sure gotta be a physical drain on him.

[Roswell]

This monster is so ugly it makes Rosanne Barr look pretty.
It looks almost as boxy as the refrigerator box I used to play in as a kid.
It's so expensive that only multi car teams are going to be able to afford it.  Look out little guys.
The wing is so big that it makes the car look like a turkey.
Why don't they just make the cars all shaped like a watermelon?  It would make about as much sense.
The more I hear about it the bigger my regrets and worries are about next season. 
There is no way this car will still be here in five years. 
Did I mention I don't particularly care for it?

 You don't have to be polite Hon, tell us what you REALLY think. Lol

[FS_Amy]

Two things on here that really caught my attention.  One, the heat issue is a very real health issue for the drivers in their fireproof suits and long underwear.  I ownder how many medical experts NASCAR has ahad look at that issue-if they haven't, SHAME ON THEM!  Correct me if I'm wroung, but wouldn't some poor driver passing out from the heat be a safety issue-for him and everyone else ontrack?!

Two, the cost to smaller teams.  MAny smaller teams don;t even have one built yet.  While they are smart to wait until the specs are final before spending the money, while the drivers for the larger teams are getting seat time, those guys get now-putting them even further behind than they already are.  Kenny Wallace told me he hasn't had any opportunity to drive one yet, and I don;t recall seeing any of the other really small teams at the test sessions either.  NASCAR's build it if you can policy is grossly unfair-they should have gotten the thing perfected, THEN let teh teams on track with it, period.  All this testing should been conducted by NASCAR, in cars they provided, and had EVERY Cup driver signed for next year involved in at least one test.  For a group that says they want "fair," they sure aren't playing that way.

[Chris]

For a group that says they want "fair," they sure aren't playing that way.

yeah,.. sounds like typical nascar