Showdown in Texas garage area - #10 Team knocks down Harvick, wife, Nascar Off.

[Cangal48]

Announcement on Fox news, that apparently a shoving match ensued in the pit areas and garage involving Kevin Harvick, his wife DeLana, NASCAR official, and members from the #10 pit crew.  Words were exchanged, Kevin Harvick was knocked to the ground, along with his wife, a NASCAR official who was shoved to the ground suffered a sprained ankle.  Investigations are ongoing by the president of NASCAR, and all those involved.

Nancy

[flamehothead]

I Just finished watching Speed(wind tunnel) and they reported that the Nascar Official Had a Broken Ankle. I can't say how much truth there is to the broken part but that is what was reported. They also said that when K.Harvick and his wife Delana were walking away the #10 crew member came from behind and shoved him and his wife to the ground. I think that this is where Nascar need's to take some serious ACTION against this guy. If you notice on the previous lap in the same corner, S.Riggs was VERY loose when they came back around you could see that when K.Harvick took the air off of his spoiler he had to back off of the throttle. The only problem is that when someone is that close you can't let off or that will be the end result. Even if K.Harvick had simply drove up and spun him out that is still no reason to take the action that the crew member took. I'm sure that when he shoved K.Harvick it caused a chain reaction which in turn made Delana fall. He made a female fall and as far as I'm conserned that is WRONG,DEAD WRONG. The crew member's can't even see that part of the track so he had to be watching it on a Jumbo Tron which doesn't really tell the whole story. And S.Riggs probably thought that Harvick did it on 100% purpose, But from where I was sitting it didn't happen like that at all. And we shall see how consistant Nascar will be with these penalties.

[Cangal48]

FFH:

Thks. for the full report!  Just as I was about to tune into the SPEED report, I received a long distance call, so didn't hear all that went down.  I AGREE, pushing, shoving and or retaliating in any manner, whereby innocent bystanders are injured (in this case a NASCAR official and Kevn's wife) is TOTALLY WRONG!!!!!  Cooler heads should have prevailed, like an after race meeting by Scott Riggs team members or perhaps, the following day with NASCAR officials present, Kevin and team members or representatives.  Retaliation serves no purpose and has NO GROUNDS in team sports.  I was shocked when I heard bits and pieces of the news bulletin.  Yes, it should be quite interesting WHAT THE PENALTY ASSESSEMENTS WILL BE!!!!!  Human behaviour is a strange thing!!!!

[Cangal48]

BTW...FFH...CONGRATS are in order for a GREAT RACE WIN BY Tony!!!!! This NEW GIRLFRIEND AND WEIGHT REDUCTION program has impacted his life in a very positive way...!!!!

[Plove24]

The guy pushed Harvick from behind and caused Harvick to fall into Delana. The guy from the 10 team didnt put their hands on her

[smyler]

Harvick admitted afterwards that he knocked Riggs out of the way after being blocked for position.

"He was blocking all over the place, he wound up on the bottom. I got a good run on top, I got in back of him and spun him out," Harvick said. "Those guys decided to take matters in their own hands and trip my wife in front of the pit box and run her over. That was unnecessary, and I'm not happy about that."

Quoted from http://sports.yahoo.com/nascar/news?slug=harvickriggsfight&prov=st&type=lgns

I don't think NASCAR has any choice but to suspend the guys who did the pushing.  I understand losing your temper, but there is a price to pay when you actually injure people.

[Dustcloud]

Heh. This is probably the only time I've ever seen such agreement on this board that post-race fighting is wrong. I have to wonder... if it was Riggs himself who pushed Harvick... or perhaps better, if people from Harvick's team pushed Riggs and knocked someone else over... if there would be such indignation. Frankly, if NASCAR's going to condone punching and shoving in the garage area as they seem to have done in the past, this *is* the foreseeable result.

But be that as it may... I do agree the post-race garage is nowhere to be holding a proverbial pissing contest

[flamehothead]

I said that the #10 crew member pushed Kevin and Delana Harvick down. I am SORRY for not being precise. The #10 crew member pushed Kevin Harvick which in turn made Delana Harvick fall also.

[AfterShock]

IMO, now is a very good time to make an example of what will be tolerated and what won't.

Will we see the first 100 point deduction? The first $100,000 fine?
I sure wouldn't object to NA$CAR being inconsistent by hanging them out to dry. And cool off.

The story tells that Kevin maintained his cool and didn't confront the sucker-pusher who is described as having administered a "football like block" to Kevin's back. "BACK" is the key word here.

No class.
No self-control.
No more NASCAR is next in order.
Ban the b_ _ _ _ _ _ for life!
Let him go the work for Mr. Good-Wrench (a back).
Maybe he can handle repair customers better than NASCAR wives, officials, and drivers.

Color him bright yellow!!
And, NOT because he's a rookie.


In my best Donald Trump voice -----------------

You're FIRED!!!

[flamehothead]

Well Dustcloud it doesn't really matter to me who pushes who. Bottom line is that Pre-Race or Post-Race nobody should be doing any pushing. The thing that got me was that this was a crew member that was this angry not Riggs or Evernham, But a crew member. Granted he is part of the team but what did he plan to acomplish by doing something so STUPID? I don't know if anyone has seen this guy yet but if you haven't then let me tell you he is no small guy. I would think that everyone who is a Nascar fan would agree that their should be NO putting your hands on another driver regardless of what happened on the track. I know that Nascar has fined drivers who have pulled away from an official that have been holding  them back from throwing something or trying to get to the other driver.This guy caused an offical to fall which in turn caused him to be ran over by a War Wagon and recieve a BROKEN ankle.That is what was said on Wind Tunnel on speed. Like I said before, This guy should lose his job for sure.

[Cangal48]

May I please add my few "sense" worth of nothing here...I will be anxious to view the outcome of this exchange, namely because when Jeff Gordon exited his car following a spin-out by Kenseth, and pushed Kenseth while still in full uniform.  Gordon received a fine of $10,000.00 in addition to a probationary period which he completed at the end of August.  So this should be interesting!!!!

I'm not BIASED here where it concerns any member of the HMS team, HOWEVER, I wish to state a point, to those detractors who feel that all the players on the HMS team deserve penalities...enough said.

[AfterShock]

Owners receive loss of owner points when "their" driver gets caught doing something "detremental to stock car racing."

There is no "I" in team. One mistake ---- and all suffer the consequences.
It's when a team member acts on their own that can crumble the rest of the team.
Aside from that, the crew member's actions were,........... well, in street language, ---

Chicken Dip.
Plain and simple.

Real men go face to face and don't involve those not deserving ---- especially NOT women.

What that crew member did paints a picture of a pulled-pin hand grenade ---- with a bad haircut.

In cowboy talk ----- cow-yard. Deluxe.

IMO

I'm just sittin' on a fence
You can say I make no sense
Tryin' to make up my mind
Really is so hard at times, so.....
I'm just sittin' on a fence.

**********Mick Jaggers*********

[smyler]

May I please add my few "sense" worth of nothing here...I will be anxious to view the outcome of this exchange, namely because when Jeff Gordon exited his car following a spin-out by Kenseth, and pushed Kenseth while still in full uniform.  Gordon received a fine of $10,000.00 in addition to a probationary period which he completed at the end of August.  So this should be interesting!!!!

I'm not BIASED here where it concerns any member of the HMS team, HOWEVER, I wish to state a point, to those detractors who feel that all the players on the HMS team deserve penalities...enough said.

Remember, Kenseth came into Jeff's pit as he was getting out of his car.  Jeff didn't push Matt from behind.  I know you know this.  What happened to Kevin was far worse and should be treated far more harshly.  Bad deal all around.  I like passion, but you have to be able to control yourself.  A sucker push is just sad.

[Cangal48]

I AGREE, it takes a COWARD to lurk in the shadows and then team up on an unsuspecting person, driver, wife, official or otherwise.  I was just trying to point out, that NASCAR is responsible for the actions of others, by solicitoring this type of behaviour intolerance either in front or behind the scenes.  I'm trusting NASCAR to take appropriate action, whether it be fining the OWNER OF #10 TEAM, the person responsible for this shoving match, etc. etc.  Fair is fair.  Please note, I'M DEFINITELY NOT TAKING LIGHTLY WHAT HAPPENED HERE!!!!

[KurtBuschFan]

Oh there are so many things for me to say...and none of them appropriate for a family board.