Time for DW to put down the pom poms

[Copperhead]

Is any one else tired of DW's constant yammering about Toyota. It was really tiresome today when he was in full spin mode about Mikeys intake manifold that was confiscated by Nascar for a foriegn substance, and to hear him tell it all is well and there is no way Mikey was trying to cheat. Then to hear sponsor boy talking about it being motor oil, and that the next manifold they put on did the same thing really made me laugh. If you know how an intake operates you know this to be a fallacy.

I think that Fox should run a disclaimer on the screen any time DW opens his mouth, and it should say "Paid spoksman for Toyota", as they gave both DW and Larry Mac a truck team when they first got into the Truck series. They should also play the first couple of seconds of the song "Turnin Japanese" by the Vapors any time he speaks.

On a high note I thought it was great when the Fox Booth Bozos were talking about the change in the Past Champions Provisional when talking about Jarret and DW was unnaturally silent, but then changed the subject as soon as he did say something.

Copperhead

[Bubba]

If you read DW's book you would see he admitted he abused the past champions rule. As to the turning japaneese thing? Should they show Mein Kampf every time a freaking Nazi Dodge takes the track or do you like those Nazi's and just discriminate against them little yeller fellers?

EDIT: LOL I never thought the f thing would make it past the auot snagger. Whoops........

Mongoose

[Butterbean]

If you read DW's book you would see he admitted he abused the past champions rule. As to the turning japaneese thing? Should they show Mein Kampf every time a freaking Nazi Dodge takes the track or do you like those Nazi's and just discriminate against them little yeller fellers?

EDIT: LOL I never thought the f thing would make it past the auot snagger. Whoops........

Mongoose

Bubba, don't ya know that bashing Toyota, DW and Mikey is the cool thing to do on the message boards these days?   It's called...monkey see, monkey do!

[Copperhead]

I would feel the same way if DW was bought and paid for by Chevy, Ford or Dodge (The US company that was aquired by Daimler, now a US subdivision) If he was a schill for Chevy I would expect to hear Bob Seagers "Like a Rock" every time he opens his mouth, schill for Ford and I want to hear a voiceover saying "Built Ford Tough, schill for Dodge and I expect the country song "Minivan". DW is paid by Fox sports to be a color analist for the broadcast, and not to be a cheerleader for whoever or whatever company ponies up to his bank account. In my opinion he has a conflict of interest, and it shows in the content of the race commentary.

It seems as if Butterbean and Bubba took the "Turnin Japanese" thing as a derogatory statement, when in fact it would just signify the status of DW as on the dole of Toyota. Toyota is in fact a company based in Japan and the first bit of the tune sounds really Japanese in an old timey way. To come back and start talking about Nazi Dodges and Mein Kampf shows who the bigots are. I also take offense at Butterbeans use of the term "Little Yeller Fellers". I've worked closely with many Asian engineers and I hold them in high regard, and their work ethic puts many others to shame. If I would have started calling the Japanese people Tojo, Hirohito or Nips or called the Camrys Zeros, Zekes or Kates or even started talking about Banzii charges I could maybe see the relation of the bigoted responses and my initial post, but there was nothing derogetary there except in your own minds. I happen to be of German ancestery, and my great grandparents came here in the late 1800s and prospered, then my Grandpa was sent to France to fight the Germans in WW1, and later many of my Uncles were sent to Europe to stop the Nazi's. How about that, German Americans killing Germans to stop fascism. Maybe you should think twice next time you automatically equate Germans and Germany with Nazi's. The war ended 62 years ago, get over it.

I have nothing against the Toyota company or their products, or the people that want to drive them. I would never buy one because I believe in supporting US companies, even if some of the parts and assembly happen elsewhere in North America. Buy from the Big Three and the profits stay in the US, while if you buy Toyota the money goes to Japan. According to a story in last weeks Wall Street Journal the foreign content of Toyota products sold in the US rose 30% last year as the company took advantage of the foreign exchange rates and imported more parts to be assembled in the US for a better bottom line. Tell that to Dale Jarett the next time he talks about building (actually assembling) Toyotas in the US. Listen to all the ads for Tundra's during the race broadcasts and look for the words "Assembled in the US".

In my opinion Toyota was given the keys to the candy store when Nascar confiscated engines and gave them to TRD to reverse engineer and let them start with a clean slate on the design. It is also interesting that the "Car of Toymorrow" just happens to debut the same year as Toyotas entry and that Nascar has all but taken the "Stock" out of the cars the last few years just in time for Toyota's first year. Now we are stuck with a spec series that is sellig itself on star power instead of racing, and all the great racing venues of the past are being shut down and the races moved to where the money is.

No, I don't believe Toyota should be in Nascar as I think it should stay an All American series. I also think Nascar should take a little bit of spec out of the cars each year for the next 10 years or so untill we once again have actual race cars that look and resemble what can be had off the showroom floor. What we have now is just a dressed up IROC series where everyone is supposed to be equal, and all the major sponsors are protected by the top 35 rule. We also have DW schilling for Toyota or anyone who will pad his pockets. Like I said, it's time for DW to put down the pom poms and just call the race, and if I never hear "Boogity Boogity Boogity" (an actual trademarked phrase by DW) again I will be a happy man.

One last note, Toyota is working on a new car that will not allow drunk drivers to drive. It senses the sweat in the palms of your hands on the steering wheel and checks for alcohol content. If it is over the limit your car will stop and you will not be able to go anywhere. I am not making this up, I read it in an AP story today and I think it is a great idea. I think Toyota should give a prototype to Brian France to test and see if it stops him from spilling soda on his pants.

Copperhead

[Bubba]

I would feel the same way if DW was bought and paid for by Chevy, Ford or Dodge (The US company that was aquired by Daimler, now a US subdivision) If he was a schill for Chevy I would expect to hear Bob Seagers "Like a Rock" every time he opens his mouth, schill for Ford and I want to hear a voiceover saying "Built Ford Tough, schill for Dodge and I expect the country song "Minivan". DW is paid by Fox sports to be a color analist for the broadcast, and not to be a cheerleader for whoever or whatever company ponies up to his bank account. In my opinion he has a conflict of interest, and it shows in the content of the race commentary.

It seems as if Butterbean and Bubba took the "Turnin Japanese" thing as a derogatory statement, when in fact it would just signify the status of DW as on the dole of Toyota. Toyota is in fact a company based in Japan and the first bit of the tune sounds really Japanese in an old timey way. To come back and start talking about Nazi Dodges and Mein Kampf shows who the bigots are. I also take offense at Butterbeans use of the term "Little Yeller Fellers". I've worked closely with many Asian engineers and I hold them in high regard, and their work ethic puts many others to shame. If I would have started calling the Japanese people Tojo, Hirohito or Nips or called the Camrys Zeros, Zekes or Kates or even started talking about Banzii charges I could maybe see the relation of the bigoted responses and my initial post, but there was nothing derogetary there except in your own minds. I happen to be of German ancestery, and my great grandparents came here in the late 1800s and prospered, then my Grandpa was sent to France to fight the Germans in WW1, and later many of my Uncles were sent to Europe to stop the Nazi's. How about that, German Americans killing Germans to stop fascism. Maybe you should think twice next time you automatically equate Germans and Germany with Nazi's. The war ended 62 years ago, get over it.

I have nothing against the Toyota company or their products, or the people that want to drive them. I would never buy one because I believe in supporting US companies, even if some of the parts and assembly happen elsewhere in North America. Buy from the Big Three and the profits stay in the US, while if you buy Toyota the money goes to Japan. According to a story in last weeks Wall Street Journal the foreign content of Toyota products sold in the US rose 30% last year as the company took advantage of the foreign exchange rates and imported more parts to be assembled in the US for a better bottom line. Tell that to Dale Jarett the next time he talks about building (actually assembling) Toyotas in the US. Listen to all the ads for Tundra's during the race broadcasts and look for the words "Assembled in the US".



No, I don't believe Toyota should be in Nascar as I think it should stay an All American series.

On the first part, my bad. I just get tired of all the japaneese bashing when in fact Foreiners not only ran the first road race NASCAR ran, but also the germans have been running in NASCAR since 1999. But I believe most telling in your whole post (which I edited in this quote) is the part I bolded. WHAT "American three"? There is Chevy and Ford. That is TWO the way I count. Chysler (Dodge) is a GERMAN company, not AMERICAN. When and where did I miss the part where Germany became the 51st State? As I recall events form the last 62 years onward, not only did we have to kick the **** out of Germany (twice BTW0 to stop them on their quest for world oppression, but they also F'ed us (the US) just recently in this war. THEY were getting rich selling Saddam stuff and didn't want THAT gravy train to stop. Oh but when Bushieboy said that perhaps he would pull those divisions that now do nothing but drain cash from us to them, they cryed like babies.

The first part of your argument made me ashamed of what I said. The part I bolded re enforced what I said how ever. BTW? My mother is the first generation of German born in this country. Kohout id a good German name. So what. Dodge is STILL a German Company so what is the difference bewtween having Germans or Japaneese in NASCAR? Hell, I say add the Itallians and we'll have the major part of the AXIS in NASCAR..................

BTW DO I know you/ I recognise that name but don't know where from..............

[flamehothead]

I'm gonna have to agree with this one. I'm not sure who seen it but when DW was talking about Stewart/Kenseth last year he wouldn't shut-up. He said, Oh matts car ran so good that he was driving in the Grass and the Dirt and he still finished 15th. Mike Joy actually had to interupt him cause he wouldn't shut-up and talk about qualifying. IMO DW isn't suppose to be a fan when he is in the Booth and On-Air. He should talk about the Race, Qualifying, Practice, And leave EVERYTHING else ALONE. I don't want to hear DW's personal opinion about anyone and that's why it's called a Personal pinion, It's Personal so keep it to yourself.

[Copperhead]

Bubba, Dodge is an American company that was started by the Dodge Brothers, then somehow ended up owned by Chrysler. Chrysler was aquired by Daimler and is now Diamler/Chrysler. Yes, the owner of the American Dodge brand is a German company, but Chrysler is still a US company. The factories and workers are still the same, and the pensions are still being paid to the retirees who used to work for Chrysler. Toyota is and always has been a Japanese company, completely controlled from Japan.

Maybe I'm just jaded by nastolga for the old days and the way Nascar used to be, but in my world it's just not right to have Toyota in Cup and the way Nascar has bent over backwards to give them the keys to the castle. For Toyota it is not about racing, but getting a foothold into the light truck market. They still see the dominance of Ford, Chevy and Dodge in the 1/2 ton pickup market and are going balls to the walls to convince us that their Tundra is all American. They see cracking the Nascar market as the way to convince Joe Sixpack that it's really allright to buy a Tundra because they are made right here in the good ol USA by hardworking Americans. How many ads do you see for the Camry during the race? It's all about the Tundra. Funny thing is the domestic light trucks have the most US content and production of all the vehicles of the Big Three. DW is playing right into their hands and serving the light truck market to Toyota for 30 peices of silver.

Copperhead

[highbank]

I welcome Toyota to the series. They'll be good for the sport.  Its gonna take more than zenaphobia to convince me otherwise.

[Chris]

I agree with Copperheads original post that DW should lay down the Pom poms..
He does that all the time.  If he's not going on about how great Mikey is doing, or downplaying when he misses a field... then you'll see MIKEY on TV comentating a race saying how great Reutimann is or the Totoya truck is (and yeah they are running outside the top 10)

The producers either need need to put a leash (or a muzzle) on BOTH of them

[smyler]

I watched the Bud Shootout with a NASCAR newbie and told her to not pay any attention to what DW was saying because he was simply a shill for Toyota.  When it came time to listen to the qualifying I about puked.  There is a lot to like about ole DW but he has made it harder to be a fan, lately.  It's going to be interesting to see what happens now that they have impounded Mikey's car.

Here is a good article about that and the other 2 infractions: http://sports.yahoo.com/nascar/news?slug=toyotaimpounded&prov=st&type=lgns

Should be a fun week!  Man, I love the action being back.

[PuglieseVT]

Well, Darrell is a Toyota team owner and has driven their cars in testing as well. He's always been an advocate for his little brother. I don't mind it. It's to be expected. Not everyone is going to be Ned Jarrett in the booth when it comes to appearing 100% impartial. It's unnatural and unrealistic to expect someone not to be. I mean come on.........it's JAWS.....

[highbank]

Ned wasn't impartial.....he cheered Dale to the finish line at the Daytona 500.

[smyler]

I think the difference was that Ned acted appropriately, by showing the pride one would have to have for his child.  DW is like one of those actors you see giving speeches for some liberal politician.  It was cool when Mikey won the first Daytona 500, but it's getting mighty old now.

[Chris]

Ned wasn't impartial.....he cheered Dale to the finish line at the Daytona 500.

Yeah,.. that was a different deal also... First a father calling a son winning the biggest race of his life is something totally different.
Second,.. The CBS officials TOLD the other announcers to "lay out" and let Ned call the last lap so the TV viewers could "feel' the emotion and feelings of Ned and get the "personal" feelings of the sport in "real time".
THIS is something totally different that what DW is doing.

[flamehothead]

I kept trying to figure out what DW reminded me of and I have figure it out. He reminds me of a really bad Infamercial. Ya know the one's that just will not SHUT-UPLOL.