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« on: February 15, 2007, 06:01:33 PM »


Oh ..here we go again...another Post Race Inspection concern...like what the Hell gives with Nascar...like if the car is a little lower after the Race who the Hell Cares or if there is something under the car diverting Air or something else ..which no one has confirmed yet ..well why don't they see this at the Pre-race Inspection..I tell you it's getting pretty dam lame....well sorry but I couldn't believe my ears..will just have ta wait and see what up !

Still waiting for an Official Statement..Probably after the Truck Qualifing !
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« Reply #1 on: February 15, 2007, 06:27:02 PM »

If this is true all i have to say is How Stupid Can You Be?? That team saw what all the other teams got when they cheated why try to cheat yourself? Stupid stupid. Course it doesn't really bother me. As long as the 20 team isen't cheating than all the other guys can cheat and get points taken away.
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« Reply #2 on: February 15, 2007, 07:01:08 PM »

Just saw on ESPNews that Jeff will have to start 42nd. Also saw this on another site.

 NASCAR inspectors have added to their collection of illegal parts during inspection.

Among the new items added for display at the NASCAR hauler are unapproved windshield braces have been confiscated from the No. 22 Toyota driven by Dave Blaney.

Unapproved probe heaters utilized in car’s transmissions were found on both Robert Yates Racing cars, the Nos. 38 and 88, driven by David Gilliland and Ricky Rudd, respectively.


The way it is looking my man Smoke may be starting on the pole. LOL
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« Reply #3 on: February 15, 2007, 07:15:49 PM »

Yep.  Looks a a shock mount broke, but NA$CAR is sending him to the rear of the field anyway:

http://sports.espn.go.com/rpm/news/story?seriesId=2&id=2767340

I continued to be underwhelmed by the prepartation of the 24 car.  A fault in the electrical system in the Shootout.  A suspension malfunction in the 150.  He might as well start in the back so he won't have to get out of the way when the car breaks.

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« Reply #4 on: February 15, 2007, 07:33:51 PM »

Yep.  Looks a a shock mount broke, but NA$CAR is sending him to the rear of the field anyway:

http://sports.espn.go.com/rpm/news/story?seriesId=2&id=2767340

I continued to be underwhelmed by the prepartation of the 24 car.  A fault in the electrical system in the Shootout.  A suspension malfunction in the 150.  He might as well start in the back so he won't have to get out of the way when the car breaks.


Yeh I just watched it during the TSN CTS Qualifiying..they went Split Screen which was nice and Wendy the Dish Venturin..interviewed Robin Pemberton , who stated the car was approx. 1" low in the Right Rear , apparently the Shock fastener was not aligned properly..which allowed it to drop during the Race. I still find it hard to fault teams when this happens.. I still remember a few years back just before coil binding technology became what it is today and Mark Martin's Team was Fined and docked 30 Owner and Driver poinr s for a fail coil which permitted the car to be lower than the specifications allowed. What a bunch of crap..if it is Intentional..ok..but have they proven Jeffys car was deliberately tampered with no. And these adjustment points should be inspected and hardwired or tagged..and inspected..then this form of tampering or improper setup would be resolved , without all this controversy !
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« Reply #5 on: February 15, 2007, 07:41:24 PM »

there is no contraversary at all.
Follow the rules or pay the price.
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« Reply #6 on: February 15, 2007, 09:02:47 PM »

there is no contraversary at all.
Follow the rules or pay the price.

Like most fans, I've never actually seen a NA$CAR rule book.  But I'm pretty sure there's no rule in there against equipment failing.

The "contraversary" is whether the 24 team intentionally rigged the shock mount to break. 

Having one rear shock fail would lower the car and make it go faster down the straightaway.   And make it handle like a pig in the corners.  Putting at risk the driver and the drivers of every other car on the track.

NA$CAR recognized that the fault was likely an accident.  So no fine or points lost.  But, since the car won, and therefore might have benefited from the broken part, cut the baby in half anyway and send ‘em to the rear.
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« Reply #7 on: February 15, 2007, 09:05:49 PM »

Well what aggravates me is that there was no reason for me to miss the races today except stupidity. I just freakin forgot. I ALMOST forgot to watch them now on SPEED. They are just getting ready to start. Think they will have the same winners lol?
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« Reply #8 on: February 15, 2007, 09:07:53 PM »

I ALMOST forgot to watch them now on SPEED. They are just getting ready to start. Think they will have the same winners lol?

I need my beauty sleep, but having missed 'em, I'm getting ready to watch the re-runs. 
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« Reply #9 on: February 15, 2007, 09:14:50 PM »

Yeah me too, My head feels like Indy is using for a bass drum but I have to watch. Why couldn't I have kept myself in the dark aboput the winners like I did about everything else this week? While I can re watch a race with no problem, if I diodn't watch it the first time and know who won, it's not as good. LOL I just wanna see Mikey take out Jr............
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« Reply #10 on: February 15, 2007, 11:18:20 PM »

Yep.  Looks a a shock mount broke, but NA$CAR is sending him to the rear of the field anyway:

http://sports.espn.go.com/rpm/news/story?seriesId=2&id=2767340

I continued to be underwhelmed by the prepartation of the 24 car.  A fault in the electrical system in the Shootout.  A suspension malfunction in the 150.  He might as well start in the back so he won't have to get out of the way when the car breaks.




Here is the thing that I don't get. They said that the Quarter PANELS (that means two) were an Inch too low. If 1 Shock Mount broke then shouldn't only that side be too low?
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« Reply #11 on: February 15, 2007, 11:43:27 PM »

I Honestly thought that Nascar had a New GOLDEN BOY but I guess I was wrong. I just don't see how Mr.Pemberton can Justify what they did and say that it was Unintentional when he doesn't have a Clue whether or not they wanted the Shock Mount to break or not. The Rule that they Broke was actually in the Rule Book but the problem that they found on Evernham Motorsports cars wasn't even in the Rule Book. Ray said it was a VERY Gray Area and he would appeal it, I'm sure he will now as I would do the same. Nascar Now just talked to long time CC (crew chief) Tim Brewer and he said that it seemed a little to Convenient that both Quater Panels were down EXACTLY 1inch. My final question is this. Wouldn't you be able to tell that your Shock Mount broke at 190mph?

As for the Penality, If Nascar is going to Penalize One then they need to Penalize all the teams that decide to Cheat. I know people are saying that it wasn't done intentionaly but how does anyone know that? And I'm sure that some will say that they didn't need to Cheat but if ya think about it, Why would EMS need to Cheat? I agree with what TonyFan20 said, Why Cheat when they know what kind of Penalties are being handed down. Hell maybe they knew they wouldn't get in trouble. I Honestly don't think that we have heard the end of this.
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« Reply #12 on: February 16, 2007, 12:03:55 AM »


Good Points Flammer , Pemberton also stated that the Loose Shock (Bolt Assembly) Fastener was not an attempt to gain a Racing Advantage. Therefore whats the fuss ? As for the measurement , perhaps the approx 1" was at the Right side as previously stated , but the left rear was only slightly lower than specifications allow. I really find their finding and penalties very contraversial contrary to Highbanks Beliefs. Its the application of their regulations (Rules) or lack thereof that slays me. Again if there was no applicable Rule then there was no Foul within the intent of any formal legislated or Governed Policy ! Hell he could have flew through the infield as a result of a Earnhardt Bump Draft and loosen[or broken the mount would they be dealing with Gordo in the same manner ? To answer your 1st question of wether Gordo would be aware of the cars condition , perhaps but probably with the way those cars were moving around in the wind again today..he won't have a clue as to the cars handling change. If anything it would make the car steer less effectively loose in and off the corners. ANyway your on top of it as usual..Bro ! We may hear more later on !   Roll Eyes Huh?
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« Reply #13 on: February 16, 2007, 12:20:53 AM »

there is no contraversary at all.
Follow the rules or pay the price.

What damm Rule..that's the Point..there is no Established Rule..for loose or broken parts..after a Race !
The Controvercy..is the inconsistant application of Penalties...never the same from one Team to another or One Driver to another...the contributing controvercy is the inconsistant Inspections...sure can find fuel additives..but not a misaligned shock tower assembly..give it a rest..Eh !

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« Reply #14 on: February 16, 2007, 06:48:34 AM »

Hopefully it won't be like JJ who got penalized and won the danged race.  Then the Championship.

But then again, that would mean Mikey Walnut is gonna win the race and the Championship

But of course, seeing the 20 on the pole won't be such a bad thing now will it.... LOL
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