Is there anyone that really thinks Mikey didnt know about the rocket fuel ?

[Boo]

  Please dont post here if you think Mikey knew about the rocket fuel . I really just want to hear from those that think Mikey told the truth and is innocent .

  I just read on a Mikey fan site that Mikey fans think that Jack Roush put the sterno in his fuel and I am trying to figure out how many Art Bell fans are Mikey fans too .

[PlanoHarvickFan]

Sorry, I really think Mikey knew nothing about it.  I don't know if it was the crew chief or one of the members who thought they could get away with it, but I really don't think Mikey approved or knew

[smyler]

I don't think Michael knew.  I don't think what we saw was the face of someone who got caught in the act.  It looked more like someone who found out just like we did.  Remember the look on his face when they first found the odd substance.  He didn't have the nervous look that you normally associate with a caught person.  I was watching last Thursday.  He seemed to think it was something that would just blow over.  I don't think he was trying to bluff the inspectors.  He really just didn't know anything about it.

I do think it was someone on his team and not someone from another team that added the substance.

[highbank]

I'll just say its not out of the realm of reasonable possibilities that something like this could happen without the knowledge of the driver or the car owner. 
At the end of the day....the crew chiefs JOB is to make that car fast.......to fail to do so legally also puts his job in jearpody. 
Acts of desperation rarely work out as intended.

[skool]

He did not know. Mikey is not that stupid to jeopardize his whole new association with Toyota and a totally new 3 car team. That and he is a strong Christian.

[Boo]

 I am really shocked that there are that many gullible people that think Mikey who is not only the driver but the team owner did not know what was up . I dont know anyone here but Highbank and I know he is pretty sharp when it comes to Naascar so it surprises me to see you think Waltrip might be in the dark on something like this .

  Just something to consider , it takes years and years in most cases to make it to crew chief in Cup and on a top team you are talking a position that pays around 300K and up . Do you really think someone as smart as Hyder woud risk his job and quite likey ever working for another Cup team ever again for something like this with out the owners consent ?

  I have no way to prove it but I would bet my house that Mikey OKed this deal.

 

[PlanoHarvickFan]

Boo, this is for you

[Boo]

lol thats funny

[skool]

Knaus risked his job. Berrier risked his.

Mikey is the boss. Do you really think Mikey would risk his ENTIRE operation and association with Toyota? Give me a break.
Mikey's got a heck of a lot more at stake than Hyder.

IF Hyder is in fact guilty (which I even suspect HE is not...) why would he not tell what it was even after MWR said he would NOT be fired in exchange for information?

Here is a brand new start up operation, the scale of which has never been done in NASCAR before, with a brand new manufacturer to boot that has been under a spotlight since Toyota announced it entry into NASCAR....who's to say that someone that was hired by MWR didn't have sabotage on thier mind before they were even hired?   Not say that is the case, but it definately is a possibility. If there is such great hatred and division among the fans of NASCAR about Toyota, who's to say some of those same feelings are not present among those who work in the industry?

Something to think about.

[Boo]

 Knaus and Berrier never risked their job they just got creative in a way 100s of guys had before them had messing with illegal parts.  Fuel has always been taboo to fool with in Nascar for what ever reason and has led to the biggist penaltys in Nascar next to doing drugs . Remember the last team that got caught with fuel lost 150 points (Kranafus)

 Do I think Mikey would take the risk ? Yes desperate people do desperate things , now I dont think Mikey is an idiot but he is not the sharpest tool in the shed and I think someone could easily convince him that this is something he could get away with in qualifying .

 As far as the Hyder would not be fired thing if he came clean , dont be fooled by the three card monty show its just misdirection to take your eyes off what is really going on .

  Mikey is as innocent as OJ Simpson

[skool]

Guess what Boo?

You got as much proof behind your argument as I do mine, therefore at this point, we are both positively right!

[Tyyrus]

  Please dont post here if you think Mikey knew about the rocket fuel . I really just want to hear from those that think Mikey told the truth and is innocent .

 

Well Boo for someone who did not want to hear from people that think Mikey was aware of the Fuel Treatment Issue , You certainly have stacked the deck in their favor !

P.S. Of course Mike new , as I said previously within another Thread , Mike is the Owner and Driver who oversee's all the Testing. Every Practice Run they take Spark Plug Readings..and the Gel would have shown up on the Plugs as an abnormal deposit on the electrode..Dude ! So who are you and Waltrip trying ta kid..Eh ! The Crew Chief new along with the Chief Engine Tuner..which is either the Chrew Chief or Chief Car Mechanic. No big mistery..just a little Sad that Nascar is part of the cover up also by not stating what they found in their chemical evaluation !

[skool]

Well Boo for someone who did not want to hear from people that think Mikey was aware of the Fuel Treatment Issue , You certainly have stacked the deck in their favor !

P.S. Of course Mike new , as I said previously within another Thread , Mike is the Owner and Driver who oversee's all the Testing. Every Practice Run they take Spark Plug Readings..and the Gel would have shown up on the Plugs as an abnormal deposit on the electrode..Dude ! So who are you and Waltrip trying ta kid..Eh ! The Crew Chief new along with the Chief Engine Tuner..which is either the Chrew Chief or Chief Car Mechanic. No big mistery..just a little Sad that Nascar is part of the cover up also by not stating what they found in their chemical evaluation !

Ty, I'll add your proof right along side mine

[Tyyrus]

Ty, I'll add your proof right along side mine

Not so much as Proof , as it is a process of elimination..Bro ! There is no way that the oil substance issue was not known prior to Nascars intervention for the reasons that I have indicated ! But we digress..since Nascar is claming up..Eh ! Take care ..all..Chow !

[skool]

Ohhhhhhhh  yeah! Now I see how wrong I am and how right you are!   You sure convinced me. How could I have been so confused as to the circumstances.

(For those readers not familiar with it, yes that is what is known as sarcasm)