Kurt Busch to Attempt The Indianapolis-Charlotte Double
posted by Phil Allaway
Tuesday March 4, 2014
Andretti Autosport announced this morning that Kurt Busch, driver of the No. 41 Haas Automation Chevrolet in the Sprint Cup Series, will attempt the Indianapolis 500 in a fifth entry for the IndyCar Series team. Once the Indianapolis 500 is completed, Busch will fly from Indianapolis to Charlotte, jump in his No. 41 Chevrolet and compete in the Coca-Cola 600 at Charlotte Motor Speedway.
Busch considers the opportunity to do the double as an old-school throwback moment.
“This is really to challenge myself within motorsports,” Busch said in Andretti Autosport’s press release. “Perhaps I am a bit of an old-school racer; a throwback, I guess. I enjoyed the era of drivers racing different cars and testing themselves in other series. It is tough to do now for a variety of factors, but when the opportunity is there, I want to do it. While NASCAR is my home, I have been fortunate to compete in Pro Stock on the NHRA circuit a number of years ago and test a V8 Supercar. This opportunity was a talk with Michael [Andretti] over dinner one night, a “What if,” and now it’s becoming a reality for me to drive in the Indy 500 with Andretti Autosport. It’s literally a dream come true. To go to the famous Brickyard with the iconic Andretti name, it doesn’t get much cooler or better than that.”
Busch will be doing the Indianapolis-Charlotte double as a Memorial Day mission to men and women serving in the U.S. Military via the Armed Forces Foundation. Fans can contribute to the cause by texting AFF to 50555 to donate $10.
Busch, who has never raced an IndyCar, passed Rookie Orientation at the Indianapolis Motor Speedway last year during a test session. At the time, Busch was more or less testing the Dallara DW12 for fun.
Busch will be the fourth driver to attempt the Indianapolis-Charlotte double. John Andretti was the first driver to attempt it in 1994. After finishing four laps down in tenth in Indianapolis, Andretti crashed and had engine problems in the 600. Robby Gordon has attempted the double five times, most recently in 2004. However, Gordon failed to make it to Charlotte on time and did not start the 600 in 2000 (P.J. Jones started Gordon’s No. 13 Ford in that instance). Finally, Tony Stewart has attempted the double twice (most recently in 2001) and is the only driver to ever complete all 1100 miles. Neither of the three drivers has won either leg of the double. The best finishes are Stewart and Gordon’s sixth-place finishes at the Indianapolis 500 (although Gordon’s came in 2000, the year he didn’t make it to Charlotte in time to start the Coca-Cola 600), and Stewart’s fourth-place finish in the 2001 Coca-Cola 600.
Danica Patrick, Justin Allgaier Talk About Phoenix Incident
posted by Frontstretch Staff
Tuesday March 4, 2014
A disappointing start to the year for Danica Patrick won’t include continued conflict. Patrick met with rookie Justin Allgaier Sunday, shortly after the Phoenix Cup race after a wreck ruined both drivers’ days. Patrick, who was critical of the No. 51 car on the radio, claiming Allgaier was “driving all over the track” appeared receptive to a conversation that quickly settled differences over what will be a long season.
“She was just upset because she got involved in the crash that we had,’’ said Allgaier to the Motor Racing Network. “She says she’s been through this and that she felt like I needed to settle down at that point. I explained my position on why everything happened. I think she understood where I was coming from. It doesn’t fix either one of our racecars. It doesn’t fix either one of our days. Unfortunately, we were both having pretty decent days.’’
Allgaier wound up 30th due to the incident while Patrick was 36th. The incident, which was caused by Allgaier’s spin also involved the No. 32 team and Travis Kvapil, which wound up 38th after sustaining heavy damage.
Camping World Close to Extending Title Sponsorship of NCWTS
posted by Frontstretch Staff
Tuesday March 4, 2014
Marcus Lemonis, CEO of Camping World, Grand Marshal of Sunday’s Sprint Cup race at Phoenix International Raceway, and star of CNBC’s “The Profit,” made the announcement over the weekend that the retailer is very close to announcing a deal that would continue its title sponsorship of NASCAR’s Truck Series. The original agreement with NASCAR is scheduled to conclude after the 2015 season.
According to the sanctioning body, no formal contract has been signed, but “the agreement between the two parties has proven to be a beneficial one.”
“In about a month, we’ll be announcing a significant extension to that contract. It’s been great for us,” said Camping World’s Lemonis in a statement. “The NASCAR relationship has worked well for Camping World. When we started, we had 35 stores. Now, we’re up to 120 stores. As we travel the country and we meet new customers in stores, they always are very appreciative of our relationship with NASCAR. It’s been good.”
Gaining a long-term commitment from Camping World to sponsor the Truck Series would be a relief for NASCAR, which is set to lose Nationwide Insurance as title sponsor for the NASCAR Nationwide Series at the end of the 2014 season. The sponsorship of the Cup Series by Sprint runs through 2016.
The NCWTS is back in action on March 29th at 2:30 PM (ET) when the trucks visit Martinsville Speedway in the Kroger 250, which can be seen on Fox Sports 1. Ratings for the season opener were up 11 percent.
Harvick Takes Win At Phoenix In Second Race With New Team
posted by Justin Tucker
Tuesday March 4, 2014
Phoenix International Raceway has become Kevin Harvick’s home away from home. Sunday Afternoon was no exception as Harvick charged to the front early and would dominate for much of the day, leading 224 of the scheduled 312 laps to record his record fifth win on the one mile oval and his third win in the last four races at Phoenix.
Harvick, coming off of a disappointing Speedweeks which was capped by a last lap crash in the Daytona 500 in his debut with Stewart-Haas Racing, set the tone on Saturday by winning both practices while having the best 5 and 10-lap averages in the first practice of the day on Saturday. On Sunday, Harvick and his No. 4 Jimmy John’s Chevrolet was nothing short of flawless as he was able to hold Dale Earnhardt, Jr. by .489 seconds after a late race restart to claim his 24th career Sprint Cup Series victory.
“Man, this is awesome,” Harvick said after his dominant victory on Sunday. “Man, this just solidifies so many things and so many decisions. It’s been so much work with all the time and effort that these guys (the crew) have put in—but what a race car.”
Stewart Haas Racing co-owner Gene Haas shared in Harvick’s excitement after the race.
“It took long enough,” Haas joked. “This is phenomenal. I think there was a lot of skepticism last year about what myself and Tony (Stewart) what we were up to, was there a lot of madness to this. Quite frankly, it’s a great team, there’s a lot of synergy at the shop, people working together. I don’t know what we did, but I think we put together a great organization.”
Daytona 500 winner Dale Earnhardt, Jr. continued his hot start to the 2014 season. Earnhardt Jr. would finish second on Sunday, marking his seventh consecutive top 10 finish since the end of the 2013 season. Earnhardt Jr. was pleased with the effort after a coast-to-coast whirlwind week after winning his second Daytona 500 and also gave great praise to the efforts of Harvick and the No. 4 team.
“I’ve got to congratulate Kevin. Those guys were two-tenths faster than everyone all weekend in practice. They were just phenomenal,” Earnhardt said. “To be able to run with them all day was a big confidence builder for us.”
Joining Harvick and Earnhardt in the top 5 of The Profit on CNBC 500K were Brad Keselowski with his second consecutive top 3 run of 2014 in third. Keselowski’s Team Penske teammate Joey Logano would finish fourth, and Jeff Gordon would come home fifth in his No. 24 Pepsi Max Chevrolet.
Jimmie Johnson finished in sixth, followed by Ryan Newman with a nice rebound after Daytona in seventh. Carl Edwards would carry the banner for Roush Fenway Racing by finishing eighth, Kyle Busch was ninth, and Jamie McMurray would finish tenth.
A look at the Profit on CNBC 500K by the numbers. There were 14 lead changes among eight different drivers, there were eight cautions for 39 laps which slowed the race pace to 109.229 MPH.
Next Sunday, the Sprint Cup Series heads to Sin City and the Las Vegas Motor
Starting Lineup: The Profit On CNBC 500K
posted by Thomas Bowles
Saturday March 1, 2014
Drivers in RED (i) are those ineligible to collect Sprint Cup points
Daytona 500 TV Ratings Down
posted by Frontstretch Staff
Wednesday February 26, 2014
What was the longest weather delay in Daytona 500 history turned out to bring NASCAR lower ratings and TV viewership Sunday night than expected. According to a report Monday from FOX Sports, the 56th running of the Daytona 500 airing at 8 PM (ET) posted a 5.6/10 national household rating/share which averaged 9.3 million viewers. That’s down 44 percent from last year’s 9.9, easily making it the least-watched Daytona 500 of all-time.
Due to the six-hour, twenty-two minute rain delay in Daytona, the race was up against the primetime coverage of the Winter Olympics Closing Ceremony from Sochi, Russia on NBC (15.25 million viewers). FOX also reported that 69% of the pre-rain delay viewers of the race, which began at 1 PM (ET) kept tuning in.
In comparison, the 2013 Daytona 500 on FOX was the most-watched race in five years, posting a 9.9/22 rating/share, commanding 16.7 million viewers. The Daytona 500 in 2012, the first to ever be run on a Monday and in the primetime slot did a 7.7/13 overnight rating/share which resulted in 13.67 million households viewing the race according to Nielsen TV ratings data.
Earnhardt, Jr. Claims Second Daytona 500 Victory
posted by Justin Tucker
Wednesday February 26, 2014
Ten years is a long time. For Dale Earnhardt, Jr., it felt like an eternity. NASCAR’s Most Popular Driver endured many near misses and close calls at the Daytona 500 since his only win in the Great American Race in 2004. Earnhardt had finished second in two of his last three Daytona 500s coming into Sunday’s race. He was also riding the tail of a 55-race winless streak, dating back to Michigan in 2012.
However nothing would stop Dale Jr. on Sunday, not even a 6 hour and 22 minute rain delay from capturing his second Daytona 500 win. Earnhardt Jr. led a race-high 54 laps on the evening and used some timely drafting help from teammates Jimmie Johnson and, on the final restart, Jeff Gordon to separate from the pack and secure the victory.
“Winning this race is the greatest feeling that you could feel in this sport besides accepting the trophy for the championship,” said a jubilant Earnhardt after pulling into Victory Lane. “We could fight off battle after battle. We got a little help at the end there from Jeff to get away on the restart. This is amazing. I can’t believe this is happening. I never take this for granted, man because it doesn’t happen twice, let alone once.”
Aside from the race itself the big story of the race was the 6 hour and 22 minute red flag, which threatened to move the race to Monday evening (had the race been postponed, FOX Sports’ Chris Myers had tweeted that the race would resume at 5:00pm EST). However, Mother Nature would cooperate and would allow the race to be run under different conditions from which they practiced this week. Once the race resumed, the intensity picked up from the changing track conditions. This allowed the pack to race side-by-side and at times 3-wide up to seven rows deep.
Joining Earnhardt Jr. in the top 5 for the 2014 Daytona 500 were: Denny Hamlin who closed out a spectacular Speedweeks in second, Brad Keselowski in third, Jeff Gordon in fourth, and Jimmie Johnson who overcome two wrecks leading up to the 500 in fifth.
Rounding out the top 10 in the Daytona 500 were Matt Kenseth in sixth, Ricky Stenhouse, Jr. in seventh and Greg Biffle would bring his No. 16 Ford home in eighth. Austin Dillon would come home ninth in his first Cup Series race in the iconic No. 3 for Richard Childress Racing, while Casey Mears would round out the top 10.
A couple of major contenders for the Daytona 500 win would see their hopes dashed early on as Martin Truex, Jr. would blow up just 30 laps into the race, relegating him to a 43rd-place finish in his debut for Furniture Row Racing. Crew chief Todd Berrier was already in Nashville for a test session before the race was even over. Kyle Busch, meanwhile would have a pit road violation just before halfway and would spend much of the race battling back from that mistake. Busch would eventually finish 19th after leading 19 laps.
Danica Patrick would also be bit by bad luck as she was caught up in a multi-car wreck on lap 145. Patrick would lead her second consecutive Daytona 500, but wouldn’t have the finish to show for it finishing 40th. Tony Stewart would encounter a frustrating evening as well, with a fuel pickup problem derailing his quest for his first Daytona 500 win. Stewart would finish 35th.
A look at the Daytona 500 by the numbers. There were 42 lead changes among 18 drivers, while seven cautions for 39 laps would slow the race pace to 145.290 MPH.
Next week, the Sprint Cup Series heads to the “diamond in the desert,” Phoenix International Raceway for The Profit on CNBC 500K. The Green flag is scheduled for 3:15pm EST.
Nationwide Series Post-Race Quotes: Drive4COPD 300
posted by Thomas Bowles
Tuesday February 25, 2014
Frontstretch Interviews – Courtesy Mike Neff
ELLIOTT SADLER – FINISHED 4th
Thoughts on the race?
It’s definitely a lot different racing than what we’re used to.
Comfortable with it?
Yeah, it’s just different. You’re worried about what you’re doing, but you’re also worried about what everyone else is doing and they’re not doing more than you’re doing. Physically pushing a guy is way better than just riding so you just gotta time it right and push it to the edge.
Happy to start the year with a top 5?
Yeah. Hell, that was the worst we ran all day, I think. I have no idea how they put the 3 car in front of us on that last restart. I hadn’t seen the 3 car hardly all day. When they put us from fifth to sixth, on the outside line, it just really boxed us in. I would have really restarted behind my teammate and given him a good push to the front. Anyways, it is what it is; we’ll take it and move on.
Looked like you were up front all day.
The guys did a good job. We had a fast race car. Great pit stops, just really proud of these guys. The car’s in one piece and we can take it to Talladega now. Great job by my guys. A lot of effort came into coming down here to Daytona and giving ourselves a shot to win. We had that chance to be up front and make some things happen. Fifth is not what we want, but we’ll take it and move on.
Bumping vs Pushing?
It’s way harder. You don’t want to lay on the guy in front of you, so it’s tough racing. A lot different than what we’re used to, ‘cause you gotta go. You gotta drag the brake too ‘cause you don’t want to hit the guys and you don’t want to stay on him. It’s a lot harder mentally than what we’ve done in the past.
Car was strong all day. Pushing vs. Bumping, is that harder to do than just getting on somebody and pushing them?
Yeah, it is a little bit. When you bump ‘em, you jar ‘em, it kinda jacks ‘em a little bit. It’s a little more abrupt, obviously. I thought it was OK there at the end. It was certainly fun and hopefully entertaining. But a little bit of a struggle in the early part of the race and the midpart of the race to see a good race. And that’s unfortunate for the fans. You can’t do that the whole race, you can’t tear up your stuff, knock your grill in, overheat your motor, all that stuff so there’s no sense in doing all that until you get down to the last lap. The 7 and the 6, they did a good job. Man, the 7 really held the 22 and I tight on the bottom. I was rubbing his door and hitting the apron at the same time, no room whatsoever. So it was good; wish we were the ones who could have won but a lot better now than what we were last year.
Going home in one piece makes it a lot better, right?
Yeah. My back feels good. My foot feels good. Past years here, I’ve been going home with pain so I’m alright.
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2014 Truck Series Post-Race Quotes: Daytona (Exclusives)
posted by Thomas Bowles
Saturday February 22, 2014
When you’re on the outside like that, how frustrating is it?
It’s so hard. Timothy Peters has won here. Kyle Busch has won everywhere. Ron Hornaday has been running Trucks forever, probably before I was even born. I was surrounded by veterans there, and like I told them I don’t have a rookie stripe but I’m a rookie. This is only my fourth Truck race ever, my fourth superspeedway race, and man, I figured out when the 17 got up in front of me, I pushed him. And as soon as I pushed him, he took off. And I went with him. And I just kept doing it, and before I knew it, he was leading. And I saw Ron in my mirror, backed up to him, and if it wasn’t for him, I don’t know what would have happened. I gotta thank him big time for that. That was a true teammate move right there. I really appreciate that. He just bounced off me and we got to the front. I tried my hardest to sidedraft Kyle. I was probably touching his door.
Top 5 in the No. 30 truck. This deal come together at the last minute, but you had a heck of a truck. Tell us about your night.
Yeah, I’ve got to thank Turner Scott Motorsports. The guys worked so hard on this Rheem Comfort Products Chevrolet. Exciting! Just got hung up on the outside and had to wait for my teammate there to catch up. And then he got to the bottom, so… I got the old 32 and started pushing ol’ Ryan to the front. So, it’s not bad. We’ll take it. You just don’t want to step over that boundary. You don’t know how far to push and shove. We bumped about six times down the straightaway without latching onto them. Hopefully, that was OK and we came home with a top 5.
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2014 Budweiser Duels Post Race Quotes
posted by Matt Stallknecht
Friday February 21, 2014
BUDWEISER DUELS POST-RACE QUOTES
They’re saying the wheel bearing burned up in it. I don’t know what caused it, they’re taking it all apart to figure out what the heck happened. Something abnormal that’s for sure I don’t think I’ve ever had that happen at all. Hopefully, we made the race and hopefully we can fix the problem before Sunday.
WHAT WAS THAT LOUD BOOM ONCE YOU TURNED INTO THE GARAGE?
Loud pop was a tire… thankfully, it popped, hopefully it didn’t hurt anybody. All the heat created in the left front that popped was pretty weird.
REALLY GOOD RUN. WHAT DID YOU THINK OF IT?
Yeah, it was good. We have a car we can work with for the 500. Got a good starting spot, so we’re going to rest easy, fluff and buff our car for a couple of days and get ready for Sunday.
ANY DIFFERENCE ON WHETHER THE TOP OR BOTTOM LANE WORKED?
Yeah, I was just moving around, trying to stay with the flow. For me, this car works on all parts of the racetrack. So I’m pretty happy with it.
DALE EARNHARDT, JR.
GOT SHUFFLED BACK, AFTER PIT STOPS AND THEN COULDN’T GET BACK UP TO THE FRONT. WHY?
Nah, we were just sitting there waiting until the last few laps to make a move. You didn’t want to pull down and get sent to the back. Seen a couple of guys get sent to the back really quick so we were just kind of waiting for the end. I felt like we had a good situation there with Ambrose behind us — we had a good run off Turn 2 and I went. It was the last lap, time to go do something, nobody went with us but hopefully Sunday is a different story.
We got a great car. We don’t have to work hard. We learned, we got a good race car. Got a car in one piece, ready to go so we’ll try and get through the next couple of practices, deliver it to the starting group this Sunday and we’ll be real happy.
YOU’RE IN THE DAYTONA 500!
Yeah, it’s pretty awesome. This Whitetail Chevrolet was so fast that I knew all I had to do was stick it behind smart, intelligent drafters and we could have a good finish. That’s what we did in the Duels and I’m excited. I’m excited to go do some stuff with the Nationwide car and have some more practice with this. But to know that we’re locked in the Daytona 500’s pretty cool.
YOU WERE OBVIOUSLY IN FRONT OF THAT MELEE AT THE END. WHEN YOU WERE UP FRONT THERE IN THE BEGINNING, WERE YOU HOPING TO JUST STAY IN LINE AND LET YOU FINISH TOP 5?
I was pretty content to ride and luckily I knew a lot of people around us were. It was nice to have a little calm and not really have to be racing hard the whole time. I knew that the pit stop was going to shake everything up and that’s exactly what happened. Fell back a little bit there but made the right moves at the end to get a good finish.
HOW STRONG ARE THESE RCR CARS?
They’re very strong! They definitely have the capabilities to be winning one of these races.
YOU’RE IN THE TOP 5 FOR YOUR HEAT IN THE DAYTONA 500. YOUR PRIMARY CAR IS SITTING RIGHT IN THE GARAGE, KIND OF WADDED UP. DID YOU THINK THIS ONE HAD IT IN IT?
Yeah, it’s a brand new car also. It’s just not quite as good as the primary but still a damned good car. I’m just proud of everybody at RCR for building such fast race cars. All of our cars have been fast, ECR motor’s been strong, even our affiliate teams have been qualifying really good and racing good. So… excited about 2014! It’s going to be a good year.
WELL MAN, YOU STARTED IN THE BACK BUT WORKED YOUR WAY TO THE FRONT WHEN IT COUNTED MOST. WERE YOU JUST BIDING YOUR TIME THROUGHOUT THE RACE?
Eh, you never know if you’re going to get back up there or not. We had to start at the back, we had to make a run early and see what we could do. We drove right to 10th, or something like that and then it got stagnant. We tried to make something happen, and went to the back again. Drove back up to the front. Again, just really proud of my guys. Matt Kruder did a hell of a job on that pit stop getting just enough gas in to gain some spots there.
RCR CARS SEEM PRETTY DARNED STRONG. DO YOU THINK THE RCR CARS HAVE SOMETHING FOR THEM ON SUNDAY — ESPECIALLY THE THREE JOE GIBBS RACING CARS THAT SEEM TO BE THE CLASS OF THE FIELD RIGHT NOW?
Oh yeah. The 20 car was extremely fast. The 11 didn’t qualify that good, but he’s a good drafter. I think he won. We definitely have something for him.
Check in with Matt and Jay on their site at CareyandCoffey.com.
Voices From the Heartland · Jeff Meyer · Thursday August 27, 2009
Lately there has been a lot of talk about switching to a fuel injection system versus a carburetor in NASCAR. The question I have is; why? Why do we have to mess with one more ‘tradition’ of this great sport?
Advocates of fuel injection cite numerous reasons such as better fuel mileage, better performance, “everyone else uses it”, carbs are antiques, no street cars use carbs and even the laughable “less lead poisoning for the fans”! Speaking of which, let’s start this column out with a little humor.
President and General Manager of Toyota Racing Development, Lee White, who was once described by Jack Roush as an “ankle biting Chihuahua”, had the following to say about the benefit of fuel injection in NASCAR last Friday at Bristol Motor Speedway…“Sit in the grandstands and watch these cars go into Turns 1 and Turns 3 and watch all the fuel belching out the tailpipe,” he said. “Thats wasted fuel thats going right into the grandstands in terms of lead poison.”
Excuse me, Mr. GM of Toyota Racing Development, perhaps no one told you that NASCAR started using UNLEADED fuel back in 2007? So much for staying on top of things! If that is the case, if I ever get lead poisoning, I’m gonna get me a good lawyer (Jeremy Mayfield’s?) and sue the golden pants off NASCAR for not protecting me from that hazard! At any rate, it is my steadfast assertion that fuel injection is simply not needed in NASCAR.
NASCAR, from its very beginning, was founded on raw, V8 carbureted power, from the moonshine runners back in the day, up to the classic muscle cars of the 60’s and 70’s that car companies are trying to reproduce today. It is what we race. Just because there is a more efficient technology available does not mean we have to use it. If you want to race fuel injected engines, there are other forms of racing in which to do so.
Each form of racing, be it go-karts, lawn mowers, top fuel dragsters, Indy Cars or NASCAR are unique, by definition, unto itself. Part of that uniqueness in NASCAR is the V8 carbureted engine. Over the last 60 years, NASCAR racing has settled on an engine that must be no larger than 358 cubic in displacement and that is just fine, unless you are Carl Long!
Other problems that arise from opening the Pandora’s Box of fuel injection in NASCAR are many, including the speed that many within the industry want it implemented.
“We think fuel injection is just the right way to go in NASCAR,” Pat Suhy, Chevrolet’s NASCAR field director, said recently. “And it wouldn’t be that difficult. Every other top racing series uses fuel injection. We could put something together in about a week, depending on how simple or complex you wanted to do it and then test it for two months or so, and be ready to go.”
Oh great! Just what we need, NASCAR rushing into something without thinking it all the way through. How many times have we seen THAT work out well in the past? Others, like White of Toyota, actually believe that fuel injection will bring a new audience to the sport.
“Its something that could be implemented along with a few other things that could be discussed that could potentially reduce costs and increase the potential audience for the sport,” said White after being so concerned about the fans getting lead poisoning.
Are you kidding me? Do you seriously think that, if NASCAR suddenly announced a switch to fuel injected engines, that many more fans would flock to the sport? When was the last time you heard someone say that they did not like NASCAR because they use carbureted engines? I can just hear the conversation in the bar now…
“Hey Bob, what’s with the Jimmie Johnson hat? I thought you didn’t like NASCAR?”
“Well, now that they have switched to a fuel injected engine, just like the one in MY Impala, well what can I say? It won me over! Y’all ain’t so redneck anymore!”
Yeah right! If anything, a switch to fuel injection will further alienate the dwindling group of hardcore fans that NASCAR has left.
Engineers from Hendrick Motorsports, who have been reportedly working on a fuel injected project in partnership with NASCAR admit that such a system would increase the cost of an engine by 15 to 20 thousand dollars each and not only that, but as one anonymous engineer joked, “It will be more fuel efficient, but also provide teams with an easier platform to cheat.”
NASCAR can barely police the laws they have on the books now, let alone bringing more electronics into the sport, especially in an area as sensitive as carbs versus fuel injection.
While there is no doubt that fuel injection would be more efficient and yes, it is used on production cars of today and yes, the technology there to do it, there is one more reason, as an astute reader pointed out in the comment section of yesterday’s Mirror Driving. With the likelihood of one or more of the traditional ‘Big 3’ pulling out of NASCAR in the future, it might be easier to lure other ‘foreign’ manufacturers into the sport with a fuel injected package.
While that is a very good observation and possible motive that we have overlooked, I would say this to ‘foreign’ manufacturers wanting to come to NASCAR…
Look, we run carbureted V8s in this form of racing! It’s what we do. It’s what it’s founded on. Bring your money and bring your carb, let’s run!
We don’t need to change the roots of our form of racing just because it’s fashionable!
Stay off the wall,
Author’s note (if I may have the indulgence of the Editors!) I would like to publicly welcome the arrival of my first Grandchild (and Carl Edwards fan) into the world! Reid Cain Doyle, Aug. 24th, ’09 at 6:05 p.m. eastern. Reid was 8.6 pounds at birth and has already won his Granddad 20 bucks, who guessed 8.7 lbs in the pool! I look forward to many trips to the race track with you Reid! (and if your mother ever asks you… “where did you learn that!?”…don’t rat me out buddy!)
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If you know a thing or two about carbs and fuel injection, you’ll know that injection is just far superior. Carbs actually have to bubble air into the fuel when at idle. Injectors just send less fuel.
But am I in favor at this switch at this point in time? Hell No! The only thing it will add to a race is that cars will not stall during pit stops and that they will be able to calculate their fuel mileage that much better. Other than that, it just adds costs, at a time when any money spent in “upgrading” the CoT should be used in making it handle better.
And for you carb fans out their. Don’t get me wrong, a carb works great for a narrow RPM band range, and you can design them for which ever RPM band range you wante… gee, lets try 7-9,000 RPM.
Typical NASCAR… changing things that don’t need changing.
nascrap is now just a shell of its fore self(NASCAR), and needs no more changes just for change. fuel injection has not been allowed for years because, as stated above, it is impossible to control cheating with it!! Leave it alone, get rid of baby brian and nascrap can and will return to NASCAR!!
FYI! For many years, in the past, I built in my factory every carburetor used by NA$CRAP!
Absolutely Fuel Injection is better!
But why would they go to fuel injection on a 358CID motor, which is not built production wise, on a rear wheel drive car, on a car that uses ZERO production parts, uses STEEL WHEELS, and so forth!
Hell, the carburetor has sufficed for all these years, why change a single component on a car that totally uses 1950’ technology?
And maybe Lee White watches CSI Miami or such! They still have people supposedly committing suicide by closing the garage doors and leaving the engine running!
HUH? With unleaded fuel, (and catalytic converters for the street) you could let that sucker run for ever and the only result is in the morning you would be ready for breakfast!
A little chemistry lesson, cars consume oxygen in order to burn fuel, and exhaust carbon dioxide, not a poison, but you can’t live by breathing it either, so yes, you can commit suicide by closing yourself in with your car; it consumes the oxygen, and you’ll stop running before the car does.
Question, if this something that only the auto-geeks* will understand and/or care about or will it have some kind of actual effect on the racing?
*Sorry if this isn’t an appropriate term — I’m using it thinking of how computer geeks know all the ins and outs of their machinery and understand subtle nuances that escape the non-geeks, gaming geeks can explain the advantages and disadvantages of 7 different ways to roll stats for D&D characters, etc. :-)
M.B., “gearhead” is the acceptable term for a person who loves working on cars and making them faster.
Carbon monoxide comes from incomplete combustion, in other words when not all the oxygen atoms combine with the carbon atoms. Carbon dioxide forms when the process happens correctly.
M.B., using fuel injection, the engines would be able to produce optimal horsepower and torque throughout the whole RPM band, so like I said above, no stalling and such.
But this is only true if you add the rest of the EMS (Engine Management System). You would need to add a computer to control all this. Also tack on many other sensors that are needed, without going into extreme detail, sensors that measure the air pressure in a variety of ways. Also O2 sensors that measure the exhaust to see if the fuel is being burnt optimally… basically checking if the Air/Fuel mixture is correct. Now you also need the ability to measure and automatically adjust the timing of the engine in order to take advantage of all of this. (This is really a brief explanation, also, all these features are why you can go 100k miles without a tune-up these days.)
So cost-wise, it is a bit more than just throwing a new manifold on the engine, granted, you could get it to run decently that way, but it wouldn’t be much of a benefit. Then you also need to tweak out the computer to make it run exactly how you want it to in each condition.
So as far as racing goes, there won’t be much of an on-track difference at all. Just a huge cost difference… and an extreme ability to cheat very easily. They actually make inline plug-in modules for most sports cars, so you don’t have to reprogram the stock computer (granted, I reprogram my own without a problem), but I’m just saying that a driver could slip one of these modules inline during a race and remove it before the car is inspected. And as you have probably seen in movies, many “Rice Burners” have their laptops hooked up when they drag race, that isn’t a joke, I do it with my Trans Am. They’ve gotten to the point now that you can have in-dash “programmers” to adjust your engine’s performance while you drive, so you can go from fuel efficient to max power at a push of a button (think IRL or F1, multiple fuel settings). So now that I think about it, the biggest change in the actual racing would be fuel mileage races would be highly accurate. No more wondering if they can make it… and no more “some drivers are better at conserving fuel than others” going on either.
Granted, their hasn’t been a normal car or truck built in over 20 years that uses a carb, but by no means is NASCAR needing to switch to fuel injection. The only reason I’ve heard why it is even being considered is that Honda is pushing for it.
BTW, Kevin in SoCal, good point about the traction control. With the Double-File Restarts, “Shoot Out Style”, (LOL) I wouldn’t be against it any more. I’ve been saying that they really need 2 Mulligans for the pre-Chase and 1 for the Chase because of the new style of restarts stacking up the wrecked cars.
I missed a couple of words in my response to Prof pi. I meant to say the “most deadly” byproduct. Yes, in a perfect combustion cycle, H2O,CO2,N2 are all that are produced. But since perfect combustion cannot be achieved, carbon monoxide is a byproduct and will kill far faster than carbon dioxide displacing the oxygen in an enclosed atmosphere.
Congrats to you Grandpa Jeff.
Lets be honest here, even with fuel injected engines, those stock cars have absolutely nothing in common with your dealership. What they should always have though is, four “small” tires, a carburetor, and most importantly….fenders.
You might want to check your facts. NASCAR has not always run 358 cubic in displacement engines. Ever heard of the 426 hemi?
Why not go to FI?. There is nothing STOCK about the NA$CAR designed cars and hasn’t been for 25 years.
NA$CAR needs to get current if they want to continue with the STOCK crap and mandate V-6 engines with OHC and FI.
“Over the last 60 years, NASCAR racing has settled on an engine that must be no larger than 358 cubic in displacement and that is just fine,..”
It does NOT say a 358 was always used! It says…well, read it again!
My facts are just fine.
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