Jimmie Johnson wins the Sprint All-Star race.....again
posted by Mike Neff
Sunday May 19, 2013
Five-time is now four-time when it comes to the Sprint All-Star race. Coming into Saturday night’s race, Johnson was tied with Jeff Gordon and Dale Earnhardt for most wins in the annual event with three wins. Johnson bided his time, restarted the last segment in the second spot, dueled Kasey Kahne for two laps to secure the lead and pulled away to a convincing win. Joey Logano started the last segment in the seventh position, took advantage of a slip up by Kyle Busch on the start of the final segment, and ultimately came home in the runner-up spot. Kyle Busch rebounded from his slip up to muscle his way back to third. Kahne started the final segment on the pole but couldn’t hold off Johnson on the first few laps of the restart and ended up fourth. Kurt Busch won two segments, was the first on pit road for the money pit stop, but finished the event in fifth place.
Jimmie Johnson summed up his results in two words, “we’re lucky”. It was tongue in cheek but Johnson was poking fun at the people who continue to accuse the No. 48 of preferential treatment, fixed races, and a blind eye to cheating. Johnson has one of the highest winning percentages in NASCAR history and it comes from natural talent and chemistry with his crew. This race also now ties Johnson with Davey Allison as the only two drivers to win the race in back-to-back years.
Logano and Busch visited with the media after the race to speak about their runs. Logano was understandably upbeat about his second while Busch was quite dejected, having another All-Star race slip out of his grasp. Kahne spoke about the elephant in the room that is the length of the segments in the race during his post race availability on pit road. He noted that the inherent problem with the format is that the car is designed with downforce, on a track that is cool and has a bunch of grip. The only way to make the races exciting after the first couple of laps of racing would be to extend the segments to the
The first 20 lap segment was won by Kurt Busch. Segment two went to his brother Kyle. That segment win allowed Bruton Smith to breathe more easily since he put up a $1,000,000 bonus to anyone who won all four of the segments. Segment three also went to the younger Busch, while the fourth segment win was tallied in brother Kurt’ s account.
Kyle Busch wins the North Carolina Education Lottery 200
posted by Mike Neff
Friday May 17, 2013
‘Rowdy’ Busch was back in his familiar No. 51 truck at his favorite track on the Truck schedule. Busch led 80 laps and thought he should have led more but had a fuel issue on pit road that resulted in him having to battle back through the field. The race was slowed by eight cautions that helped him work his way back through the field. Busch beat Brendan Gaughan to the finish by .488 seconds, while Max Gresham chased them both to the line for his first top three finish of his Truck career. Matt Crafton came home in fourth place after having to battle through a couple of tire mishaps during the event. Ty Dillon rounded out the top 5 for his first finish that high this season.
Busch led the race three times for his 80 laps. Miguel Paludo was second on the laps led board with 33. Gaughan, Gresham and Dillon also scored bonus points for leading laps. There were two cautions in the first 72 laps of the race while 29 of the last 62 laps were completed under the yellow flag.
Jeb Burton started the race on the pole but did not lead a lap. He did however end the race as the Rookie of the Race for his 13th place finish. Matt Crafton leads Burton by 22 points in the season standings after five races this season.
Matt Kenseth Snatches Victory from the Jaws of Defeat at Darlington
posted by Mike Neff
Sunday May 12, 2013
Kyle Busch appeared to be headed for another weekend sweep after winning the Nationwide race at Darlington on Friday night. However, a funny thing happened as they were bringing out the dustpan. Matt Kenseth chased down the dominant car of the night, passed him with relative ease and then strolled away to a 3.165 second victory. Kenseth led the final 13 laps after Busch had held the point for 265 of the 354 laps leading up to Kenseth’s race winning pass. After Kenseth worked around Busch, the No. 18 slid rapidly backwards over the final eight laps to fall from second to sixth place.
Joe Gibbs Racing did manage a 1-2 finish after sweeping the podium in Friday night’s Nationwide tilt. Denny Hamlin, in his first full race back in the car since his vertebrae fracture at California, soldiered through the pain of his arms, neck and shoulders more than his recovered back to wrestle a second place finish away from the Lady in Black. Coming home in third was Jeff Gordon, who turned his 700th career start into a top 3 finish. Jimmie Johnson and Kevin Harvick rounded out the top 5 in the Bojangles Southern 500.
Kurt Busch started the race on the pole and led the first 51 laps before coming to the pits for a green flag stop. After the stops cycled through Busch was back at the point for 18 more laps before his brother began his domination. The race went green for the first 302 laps save a seven lap caution stint from lap 125 to lap 131. The final 65 laps saw four more cautions that flew for accidents involving Regan Smith, Brad Keselowski, Casey Mears, Kurt Busch, Josh Wise, David Reutimann and Kasey Kahne.
The race saw four leaders including Jeff Gordon in addition to the Busch brothers and Kenseth. The win is Kenseth’s 27th of his career and breaks a tie between himself and his teammate Kyle Busch. The win is Kenseth’s third this season which is the most among all of the competitors in the Cup series. Ricky Stenhouse Jr. was the Rookie of the Race. Jeff Gordon’s top 5 finish was his 300th of his career. He joins Richard Petty, David Pearson and Bobby Allison as the only four drivers in the history of the sport to accomplish such a feat.
Busch Dominates at Darlington as JGR Sets Nationwide Series Record
posted by Amy Henderson
Friday May 10, 2013
Kyle Busch dominated the VFW Sport Clips Help a Hero 200 on Friday night en route to his 56th career Nationwide Series victory and fifth series win of 2013. Joe Gibbs Racing in general was the class of the field all night at Darlington Raceway, claiming four of the top 5 finishing spots, with only fourth-place Joey Logano keeping them from sweeping the top four spots. It was a historic night for JGR, as no team has ever before placed four cars in the top 5. Elliott Sadler finished second to Busch and Brian Vickers third, with Logano and Matt Kenseth rounding out the top 5.
Busch led 107 of 147 laps on the way to the win. Sadler was the best among the Nationwide Regulars, finishing second despite an early spin in Turn 2, and gained points on leader Regan Smith, who finished seventh. Kyle Larson continued to impress at the Lady in Black, posting a sixth-place finish in his first Darlington start as he runs for rookie honors. Sam Hornish, Jr., who remained second in points, finished eighth while Kasey Kahne and Justin Allgaier filled the top 10.
Smith now leads Nationwide Series points by 28 over Hornish. Sadler jumps two spots to third on his second-place run as Justin Allgaier fell one place to fourth. Vickers gained three sports and is now fifth, 49 behind Smith. Austin Dillon, Parker Kligerman, Brian Scott, Alex Bowman, and Kyle Larson round out the top 10.
Joe Gibbs Racing Penalties Reduced Following Appeal
posted by Summer Bedgood
Wednesday May 8, 2013
Joe Gibbs Racing had many of their penalties for the No. 20 team reduced during the appeal process on Wednesday.
Driver Matt Kenseth and owner Joe Gibbs had their points penalties reduced from 50 to 12 points.
Crew chief Jason Ratcliff’s suspension has also been dropped from seven races to one, though he will still be forced to pay the $200,000 fine.
Not all of the penalties were reduced, however. Toyota Racing’s manufacturer points penalty was increased from five points to seven.
All other penalties were dropped, including the suspension of Joe Gibbs’ owners license, the loss of bonus points for the Chase earned at Kansas Speedway, and the loss of eligibility into the Sprint Unlimited garnered from the pole at Kansas Speedway.
JGR has accepted the penalties and will not appeal further.
Following a dominant win at Kansas Speedway a few weeks ago, Kenseth’s car failed post-race inspection when it was found that a connecting rod was 2.7 grams below the minimum weight. Toyota Racing Development accepted the blame for the incident.
The reduction moves Kenseth up to fourth in points, 66 points behind leader Jimmie Johnson.
JGR has not announced who will replace Ratcliff this weekend in Darlington.
The appeal was heard by Mark Arute, Dennis McGlynn, and Jack Housby.
NASCAR cannot appeal the revised penalties.
Penske Has Suspensions Reduced On Appeal
posted by Thomas Bowles
Wednesday May 8, 2013
Roger Penske’s team got some relief Tuesday from NASCAR’s Chief Appellate Officer John Middlebrook, as he chose to reduce penalties assessed to that organization at Texas Motor Speedway in early April. Middlebrook, after hearing the evidence from both sides Tuesday chose to reduce all suspensions in the case from six to two weeks, plus NASCAR’s All-Star Race on May 18th. That means the final consequences for both teams are the following:
No. 2 car
No. 22 car
Middlebrook’s official statement was short, simply stating, “After looking at all the facts, data, and interpretations from the rule book, I have decided to uphold the original fines and points penalties. However, I have decided to reduce the suspensions of the seven team members involved from six points races and the All-Star race to two points races and the All-Star Race.” However, it seemed both sides, after presenting their cases were far more pleased with how the case was handled during this portion of the appeal.
“We were able to talk about areas we worked in,” said Roger Penske, referring to the “gray area” of the NASCAR rulebook officials ultimately felt stepped over the line. “I’m very happy with the outcome. This sport has been built on innovation. All of us have tried to innovate in areas not defined in the rulebook. We were in that area.”
In conversations with the parties involved, it was clear the controversy surrounded parts designed to increase the rear-end angle at the back of both cars. In past years, with innovation limited through the Car of Tomorrow templates teams have played around with suspension systems designed to make the rear end of the car easier to “move.” The more the car skews in the corner, the easier it can be to handle and gain extra speed.
However, NASCAR had made rules designed to curb those types of innovations this year and made the determination Penske parts to build the rear suspension were unapproved. Why they had gone undetected in previous inspections was never addressed, along with claims someone else in the garage had alerted officials to possible inappropriate car construction. One thing Penske did admit, though is had this decision been issued by the initial appeals panel, he would not have pressed his luck with Middlebrook.
“All of us,” he said. “Have lost points for certain infractions over the years. The key thing is to have people back at the racetrack operating in full control.”
The end results leave Logano 18th in points, 146 behind championship leader Jimmie Johnson and 43 outside a Chase position. Keselowski is far more stable; fifth in points, he’s 69 behind and 45 ahead of 11th-place Matt Kenseth. Neither of the Penske cars have won a race this season.
“Moved on from last few weeks,” Keselowski tweeted Wednesday morning. “And ready to focus on @TooToughToTame (Darlington Raceway).”
The next round of NASCAR penalty appeals, focusing on Joe Gibbs Racing and Matt Kenseth will be heard on Wednesday morning.
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Penske Racing LOSES Penalty Case, Will Appeal To NSCRC John Middlebrook
posted by Thomas Bowles
Wednesday May 1, 2013
A three-member panel Wednesday unanimously upheld penalties assessed to Penske Racing after pre-race inspection at Texas Motor Speedway. Comprised of Pocono President Brandon Igdalsky, Bowman-Gray President Dale Pinilis and former NASCAR VP Paul Brooks, the trio determined the sanctioning body’s evidence was enough to “convict” Penske to the tune of points lost, suspensions given and $200,000 in fines.
Roger Penske, in response has pledged to send a final appeal to National Stock Car Racing Commissioner John Middlebrook. That hearing will occur Tuesday, May 7th at NASCAR’s Research and Development Center. Here’s a quick list of what penalties are pending (everything but the points deductions will be deferred, pending Middlebrook’s approval until after the final appeal):
No. 2 team
No. 22 team
NASCAR’s representation included Sprint Cup Director John Darby but not Vice President Robin Pemberton, who was whisked away to Florida on jury duty. Owner Roger Penske was in attendance to defend the allegations along with Team Manager Travis Geisler, Tim Cindric, Walt Czarnecki, Joey Logano’s crew chief Todd Gordon along with several other key principles.
UPDATE: The National Stock Car Racing Commission issued a brief statement, reviewing the penalties and then explaining the following.
“Upon hearing the testimony and carefully reviewing the facts, it was a unanimous decision by the National Stock Car Racing Appeals Panel to uphold the original penalties assessed by NASCAR.”
“The Appellants have the right under Section 15 of the rule book to appeal this decision to the National Stock Car Racing Chief Appellate Officer.”
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Kyle Busch Wins Denny Hamlin Short Track Showdown
posted by Thomas Bowles
Friday April 26, 2013
Who says Joe Gibbs Racing teammates don’t get along? Kyle Busch is certainly receiving gifts, from Denny Hamlin in the form of shiny trophies from winning the latter’s annual charity event. Rowdy was romping through the field again at Richmond Thursday night, taking control at the race’s midpoint and cruising during the latter stages to win the Showdown for the third time in the past six years. In a race that benefits the Denny Hamlin Foundation, created to help those with cystic fibrosis Busch had his late model hitting on all cyilnders down the stretch. Pulling away from fellow Cup driver David Ragan, in the final segment of the 75-lap race the outcome was simply never in doubt following a 5-minute break for pit stops prior to Lap 47. Ben Rhodes, Ronnie Bassett, Jr., and Garrett Campbell rounded out the top-5 finishers.
Other Cup drivers, including defending race champion Tony Stewart were in the field but never a factor up front. Smoke, actually extending his slumping start to 2013 into this race got wrecked before the halfway point and wound up 28th. Matt Kenseth, still distraught after a midweek penalty virtually negated his win at Kansas was never truly competitive, either; he finished 22nd.
Also on Thursday night, African-American driver Ryan Gifford won the first K&N Pro Series East race of his young career. Surviving a five-lap shootout, following a red flag he cruised home over Brandon Gdovic.
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Matt Kenseth, Joe Gibbs Racing, Toyota Penalized As Engine Fails Kansas Post-Race Inspection
posted by Thomas Bowles
Wednesday April 24, 2013
Until the end of time, Matt Kenseth can say he crossed the finish line first at Kansas Sunday. NASCAR Record Books will say the same. But after a harsh series of penalties announced on Wednesday, should they stand that’s about the only thing Kenseth can hang his hat on after a successful weekend turned sour.
According to multiple reports, officials at the NASCAR R & D Center in North Carolina discovered a connecting rod on Kenseth’s engine, brought in for Kansas post-race inspection weighed three grams less than the minimum weight of 525g. The consequences, announced today are crippling for both driver and team. Kenseth, along with car owner Joe Gibbs have been docked 50 driver and owner points, actually reducing their overall totals heading into Kansas even though the No. 20 car won the race. That lost chunk of points drops Kenseth from eighth to 14th in the standings. More importantly, the win “won’t count” for either bonus points in the Chase or determine postseason eligibility; that means the driver, now in “Wild Card” position is considered to have one win so far this season instead of two.
That’s just the tip of the iceberg on these consequences. Crew chief Jason Radcliffe, fined $200,000 based on the infraction has also been suspended for the next six Sprint Cup points events, along with the All-Star Race. Toyota, whose TRD engine department ultimately supplies the JGR powerplants has had five points deducted from its total in the manufacturer’s championship. And finally, Joe Gibbs himself, already docked 50 owner points has had his license suspended by NASCAR, which means he’s ineligible to accrue owner points for the No. 20 until the next six Sprint Cup Series points races are completed.
Gibbs, NASCAR has clarified will still be able to travel to the racetrack despite a suspended license. In a tersely worded statement, the owner says he’ll appeal the ruling, which violated three parts of the series rulebook. The one most pertinent is Section 20-5.5.3(E) which states only magnetic steel connecting rods, with a minimum weight of 525.0 grams will be permitted. Sections 12-1 (actions detrimental to stock car racing) and 12-4J, which gives officials the right to penalize for parts they claim do not conform to NASCAR rules were also cited in the sport’s official release.
Toyota Racing Development’s Lee White, in a statement released early this afternoon took responsibility for the violation.
During NASCAR’s routine post-race tear down of Matt Kenseth’s race-winning car and engine from Kansas Speedway,” he stated, “One of our engine connecting rods weighed in approximately three grams under the legal minimum weight of 525 grams. None of the other seven connecting rods were found to be under the minimum weight. We take full responsibility for this issue with the engine used by the No. 20 Joe Gibbs Racing (JGR) team this past Sunday in Kansas — JGR is not involved in the process of selecting parts or assembling the Cup Series engines. It was a simple oversight on TRD’s part and there was no intent to deceive, or to gain any type of competitive advantage. Toyota is a company that was built on integrity, and that remains one of the guiding principles of the company. The goal of TRD has always been — and will continue to be — to build high-performance engines that are reliable, durable and powerful, and within the guidelines established by NASCAR.”
Kenseth, who has led 482 laps this season, two higher than his total last year has been one of the strongest competitiors on the Sprint Cup track in 2013. His engines have also passed several previous inspections.
Johnny Sauter Penalized For Fuel Cell Infraction At Kansas
posted by Thomas Bowles
Wednesday April 24, 2013
Thorsport Racing, along with former Truck Series point leader Johnny Sauter are reeling this Wednesday after a major penalty involving their No. 98 Toyota. On Wednesday, NASCAR announced the team was fined $10,000, crew chief Joel Shear has been suspended for four races and 25 owner points were taken away as a result of a faulty fuel cell, confiscated during pre-race inspection at Kansas. Driver Sauter was also hit was a loss of 25 points, completely reshaping the championship Chase heading into the next race of the season at Charlotte May 17th.
According to NASCAR officials, the team violated multiple sections of the rulebook. The key ones involve Section 20B-16 and 20B-16.1B, regarding the proper size and functioning of fuel cells. “Once a fuel cell or fuel cell components have been certified,” the rules say, “Modifications of any kind will not be permitted.” The 16.1B portion refers to black safety foam, with a minimum height of eight inches that must be used as a safety mechanism when putting together the fuel cell itself. By violating that rule, NASCAR is insinuating the team modified or enhanced the cell in some way by cutting back / replacing that foam.
Section 12-1, actions detrimental to stock car racing was also listed as a rules violation along with 12-4K, which gives NASCAR Officials the leeway to penalize teams when they feel previously legal equipment was modified, in any manner after being initially inspected.
Thorsport, as of yet has not said whether they plan to appeal. The penalties mean Matt Crafton becomes the new Truck Series point leader, by 13 over Jeb Burton while Sauter gets pushed back into a tie for second place.
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Voices From the Heartland · Jeff Meyer · Wednesday June 21, 2006
Last Sunday, as I sat on my couch waiting for the race to begin, I did as instructed by the track announcer and removed my hat for the singing of…The National Anthem of Canada!?
Now, I must point out, for those of you that don't already know, my couch, at this point in my life, is located in East Central Iowa. I have watched many a race from my Iowa couch and even more from a barstool located just six blocks east of my couch, but this was the first time I'd ever been asked to stand and remove my cap for the singing of another country's national anthem. I was a bit stunned, to say the least…in fact, I put my hat back on.
Even my wife, who is NOT a NASCAR fan but loves me anyway, noticed my state of bewilderment and feigned her interest with the question: "Where is this race at?"
"Michigan. Near where your brother used to live," I replied.
"Why are they singing the Canadian National Anthem?" She continued feigning interest, probably because it was Father's Day. "Beats the Halifax outta me," I quite cleverly quipped in response.
Sensing she was at her limit of feigned interest of anything NASCAR, my wife became distracted by a piece of dust, and our conversation ended. I, however, was not ready to let it die.
After dutifully standing and removing my hat for OUR national anthem, I went straight to my computer and posted my opinion of disbelief on the Frontstretch.com message board to see if anyone else thought the same as I did. (If you are not a member of our message board, I encourage you to join as we have some very engaging and insightful conversations way more in depth than what you see in the “comments” section at the bottom of each article.)
My opinion was (and is), while I mean no disrespect for our great neighbors to the north, the televised singing of their national anthem was out of place. Simply put, _the race wasn’t in Canada. Why was the anthem sung? Was it done simply because there were a lot of Canadians at the event?
Now I personally have never been to a race at MIS, but members of our message board community who have been going there for years said that the practice of singing the Canadian Anthem is done regularly, BUT…this was the first time they remember it being televised. I have discovered it is, in fact, done to welcome/honor our guests from north of the border.
Now, I have no problem with welcoming or honoring fans who come to our country to attend an event, but is their national anthem really necessary? What is wrong with a big "Welcome! Glad you are here. Enjoy our hospitality!"
NASCAR, in an effort purely based on market demographics, now holds two races a year at California Speedway in Fontana, CA. The dates awarded to Fontana were solely intended to bring more dollars and more ethnic diversity into the NASCAR fan base, as fans and competitors alike have long been opposed to the schedule changes it caused.
Fontana, as a city alone (not counting the surrounding area) has a total population of about 130,000, of which almost 75,000 claim to be of Hispanic origin. To dive deeper into the city of Fontana, of the 75,000 listed as Hispanic, almost 30,000 are listed as being foreign born, meaning they are (also) citizens of whatever country they were born in. With using the actual city of Fontana as that base, it is just common sense that the surrounding area in general reflects the same proportional numbers.
Now, do not misrepresent this diatribe to be racist against any group from any country. My point or question here is, why isn't any other country's national anthem sung at any other NASCAR events that are close to our southern border? What about the vast Cuban population that may attend a race in southern Florida? Can’t we sing the Cuban anthem for them? What is it about Canadians that make them special? Is it because, for the most part, “Canadians” look more like “Americans” and you can't tell them apart until they speak to you, so they’re “cool” enough to get their anthem sung?
Some folks on our message board have suggested that to worry about such seemly trivial things in NASCAR is a waste of time considering pressing issues in the sport such as the Car of Tomorrow, etc. They may very well be right. All I know is that the whole thing caught me off guard and left me with a lot of questions.
Politically and socially, our country is in the midst of a great debate regarding immigration and the use of English as our “official” language. Since no one that I have spoken to can remember the singing of another country's anthem actually being televised, I am left with the feeling that NASCAR and FOX just kind of “threw it out there” to see how it would go over.
With me, it didn't go over too well.
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I understand your bewilderment in response to the singing of the National Anthem of Canada. In all fairness the same is done nearly every year at Loudon and if I remember correctly they used to do it at Pocono as well. It doesn’t always make it to the broadcast. Heck, OUR national anthem didn’t used to get broadcast at every race not so long ago. It has been considered a courtesy to present both anthems as through the years we have had many competitors, not so many drivers but crewmembers, who are of Canadian descent that regularly participate at these venues. You will find that the same courtesy is extended at many of the local short tracks in New England and reciprocated by short tracks in Canada. Try not to be too upset. It is just a courtesy.
Jeff I like you were caught when then they played dual anthems,but it has been done many times in baseball at the allstar games,and at hockey games.And if you drew a circle of 600 miles around the Pocono,NHIS,MIS you would include aprox anywhere from 25 to 60 % of the population of Canada.If you are still bothered about it call MIS and ask what percentage of tickets sold were sent to Canada
Jeff;What the hell ya’ bitchin’ about? Just about anything is better than listening to the cornpone clattertrap of Darrell Waltrip. If I hear one more boogity, I’m gonna puke.
I’m OK with singing another countrys anthem if the country is in close proximity to a track, however, our anthem should be sung first.
Haven’t you ever noticed the proximity of the Michigan track to the Canadian border crossing at Windsor? This is a REAL no brainer!
At Syracuse NY’s Super DIRT Week for the modifieds, much better racing than NASCAR presents anywhere BTW, the Canadian National Anthem is always played after ours. Why? Because quite a few drivers, crewmembers and fans of the Big Block Modifieds hail from our friend to the North.
Driving through the infield at MIS, there were a ton of Canadian license plates. We’ve always done the Can. anthem (just acknowledging our neighbors). There’s also a Canadian flag flying on the frontstretch. The USA anthem goes last if you are in the USA, ie. NHL games.
Larry, in the USA, when then US Natioanl anthem and another country’s national anthem are both played, it is considered proper ettiquette to play the US National Anthem last.
I have no problem with the Canadian National Anthem being played before the Michigan race. What is shocking to me is that the vast number of people that have an ‘issue’ with this on the racing message boards. I guess that there are more bigoted people out there that have an ‘only America matters’ mentality. No wonder foreigners refer to us an ‘ugly Americans’. (It will not be long before we will be called “ugly, bigoted, & ignorant Americans”)
Why do people care about this simple coutesy toward Canadien fans and team members? Do you believe that only the Mexican anthem should have been sung at the Mexico City race?
BTW—Hispanics are NOT a monolithic block. If you call my Puerto Rican stepmother a Mexican she will let you know how wrong you are with a vehement intensity only seen in the Nascar world during Gordon vs. Earnhardt feuds.
I am a frequent ticket holder at MIS, and also Canadian. I believe I heard the stat that about 40-45% of the crowd at both MIS Nextel Cup races are from Canada (that’s a lot of fans!). MIS also has “Canada Day” for the August race. It sure is nice to feel welcomed at the track.
Singing the Canadian Anthem at MIS is showing the proper respect that is also shown in all the major sporting events held in Michigan. If you watch NHL and the Wings are playing at home, the Canadian Anthem is always sung first and televised. Nothing wrong with it so why all the complaining ?
Wow, I’m surprised by all the people in support of the Canadien anthem. My husband and I were as confused as you when they aired the singing of the other anthem. Like you, we don’t have a problem with it being sang, we are torn on whether it was appropriate. At a time when our country is struggling with our values and traditions, we don’t need to add more to the mix of “honoring” other countries. Especially since our values are being challenged by those that live on this soil.
While I can’t say why they played the Canadian National Anthem at the northern tier tracks, I can tell you something about rendering respect to the flag of a foreign nation during a military formation.
Having been involved in a few of these ceremonies during my military career, it doesn’t matter if it’s an ally or an enemy, you alway render respect to the flag and national anthem. Which in my case was saluting the foreign flag. As much as I wanted to not salute the flag of one of our adversaries back during the days of the cold war, it took some professionalism to overcome the dislike of that country, what they stood for, and their oppression of millions of people.
So while we may not have liked it, we did it out of professional courtesy and respect.
I don’t know the specifics of how the tradition of playing the Canadian National Anthem started, but to suddenly STOP playing it after however many years would be a rude slap to our Canadian friends.
I was a bit surprised by the televised singing of the Canadian anthem, but mainly because I dont remember them televising it before. Have they not always done it right after the invocation? With a track that close, with that many Canadian fans, I have no problem with it. And while this isn’t very important to the subject, I must disagree with you, Tammi. My husband is a HUGE Red Wings fan. We have to buy the NHL package from DirecTV just so he can see every game. You stated that the Canadian anthem is sung and televised before every Wings homegame. The only time we have ever seen them perform the Canadian anthem is when the Wings are playing a Canadian team. If they do it during other games, it is not televised.
RE: Dual Anthems at MIS
As GreenGriffen I haven’t posted much lately on FS message board. Good thing too because if I saw these dumb issues I would post something like this!
-I was born in Windsor (Motown.ca -geographically south of Detroit)
-in the 1950’s I lived in Michigan (even had a green Alien status card)
-I made an issue one day in Gr 4 of not standing up in music class for the Star Spangled Banner – if I had of been in different circumstances ie: Mc Carthy Red Scare crazed era teachers or if I was an adult I would have been wrong.
-My uncle the late John Marsh helped start MIS
He was ex WW2 RAF and was a prime mover in putting the Lancaster Bomber in Jackson Park, Windsor as member of Confederate Air Force too
-Myself like I said in 1957-58 had “patriotic-USA teachers. Fact is they would say ie: oh children the Commies couldn’t have launched a man into space before us, it must be a trick, a tape recorder.
-fact is for saying ” teacher if they could launch a tape recorder and dogs, why not people?
-Gr 5 and I was forced to change to Mr Nugents class (non political Irish Hills Man)
-I stand up for both inspite of having experienced 1968 when Linda from Riverside High
and John Tuz of Essex Scotish went to the fresh grave site with me, Canadian volunteer returns from Nam. Just a couple months before this they had been on the front page of the Windsor Star behind sand bags with the New Canadian flag (imagine the government in USA changing the flag!)We are very different countries…by politics
and the definition of “IS”
-Myself in 1968 saw RFK & MLK as an effect! I was in Chicago that fall and the election of Nixon that year and then him picking Ford is far more extreme than a mere flag from Canada.
Believing in Soverign State as Principle even Qubec. And unlike many would vote our province to be soverign too. But not any closer to the USA except I believe the 30+ million Canadian voters might pull down the next USA Presidential Canidate that had a foolish type of world patriotism I think I should be allowed to vote for who becomes President. It concerns me more than who is Prime Minister! GreenGriffen69
If they sang it anyway, what difference did it make if the televised it? I don’t get why it’s such a big deal. The way NASCAR is changing nothing surprises me. It’s all about the money now.
I will be right beside you raising hell the day they DON”T sing our anthem. THAT would be the last day I watch a race. Don’t scoff,they have taken everything out of the schools (prayers and saluting the flag)........... will NASCAR be next?
For the record. I DO NOT have a problem with them singing Oh Canada at the track! It is a nice, polite gesture. But, if this instance wasn’t some sort of social experiment by NASCAR and Fox, WHY is it the first time anyone seems to remember it being TELEVISED to the rest of the country? I watch more races than I attend and this is the FIRST time I have ever seen it, whether they were racing at MIS, Pocono or Louden.
As for you GreenGriffen! This article was solely intended to flush you out and it worked! We’ve been missing you on the board! Don’t be a stranger!
As so astutely pointed out by a previous post,no need to call the MIS ticket office to find out how many tickets go to Canadians,although having gone to MIS annually since ‘90,I can tell you with great accuracy the figure is closer to 50-55%.The Canadian anthem has been sung at every event in that time,it’s just the myopic suits at the networks have never bothered to show it before now.This was long overdue.Never mind the vast majority of fans being Canadian at MIS,Pocono,NHIS,etc,how about Daytona and Bristol which are fully 40% or more Canadian?It’s about damn time the network twerps and the braintrust(?) at NASCAR recognized the fact that Canada is equally as responsible for the growth and prosperity of our sport as the good ol’ USA.
You say your from Iowa? Sounds more like San Jose. What I can’t believe is that you would be linked from such a quality sight as Jaski to your worthless opion. You say your not bigoted, BUT THEN YOUR WRITE $%^%& LIKE THIS? If you watched any of the Stanley Cup you would know how wonderful the fans of Canada, and specifically Edmonton, is towards the USA. They didn’t just reluctantly stand up, they belted out the words and cheered OUR anthem. NASCAR wants to broaden their fan base. I don’t think they have people like you in mind. Go back to minor league baseball in Iowa and you will not have to hear the Canadian anthem again
I am aslo a HUGE Wings fan and I am sorry that I didn’t mention that the Canadian Anthem is only sung when they are playing a Canadian team. There is still no reason why they can’t sing Canada’s Anthem before a NASCAR race.
You can’t be much of a NASCAR fan if you’ve never noticed this before about the Canadian National anthem. It’s been done for years. Maybe the beer at the bar clouded your eyes and plugged up your ears
Most of the “issues” raised by this could have been easily avoided if the folks in the broadcast booth had simply explained why that was being sung. Most people (there are always exceptions) were asking questions about the singing because they didn’t expect it or understand why it was done.
There is nothing bigoted about asking why something was done!
The thing i think is terrible are the number of folks spectators and Drivers/Crew members that disrespect our (US)
anthem by not placing their hands/hats over their hearts while it is being played. It doesn’t matter who’s in the White House – it is still the greatest country on the planet and they should feel damn lucky to be here!!!
From what I have been told by an MIS Sales rep, Canadians account for nearly 40% of tickets sales for the races there. The Canadian Anthem has been sung for as long as I have been going (Since ‘88) and they used to do it at Pocono as well. This is the first time I have seen it televised (which as a CDN was kinda nice!). The reason they would have sung it first is a) because of the flyover and b) by singing the US anthem afterward, it sets it up as “the main event” of the two anthems.
Hockey arenas do this all the time to get the crowd cheering louder: visting anthem first.. now let’s show ‘em how it’s done!
I am a NASCAR fan ( big Mark Martin fan too ) and I am proudly Canadian. I was at this particular race and i always go to Walkins Glen and useually Ricmond, Bristol and Charlotte Motorspeed ( oh I wish they’d bring back Rockingham ). Anyway…it is a nice touch that tyhey play our anthem in Walkins Glen and Michigan. I proudly wear my hat that my brother in law bought for me in Afganistan. Taskfocr Rakasan….it is a joint taskforce of Canadian and American soldiers based in Kandahar…he served there for 18 months…..the hat has both the Canadian Flag and US flag on it and I proudly wear it t support both of our countries….we are a lot closer than you think! God Bless Canada and The United States!
I agree, Tammi. If they are racing at a place like MIS where that many fans are from Canada, there is no reason not to play it. Out of respect, it should be played. And Go Wings :)
In response to Steve Consentino, I didn’t notice any disrespect during the playoffs this year. However, lets not forget a few years ago, I believe I specifically remember it was Vancouver, where they played the US National Anthem and the entire crowd booed. It wasn’t just that one game, either. I remember hearing it several times that season. And maybe I’m reading a different article, but I dont really see where he is being bigoted or racist. I know several people wondered the same thing, so it’s not just his “worthless opinion.” I didn't see him say the anthem should not be played, just wondering why Fontana and other tracks like that don't do the same. For me, it’s not the fact that they did it that threw me off, its the fact that its the first time I’ve ever seen them do it and didn’t realize they do it every year.
Nikki, in this years NHL playoffs, the fans in San Jose roundly booed the Canadian anthem when the Edmonton Oilers were in town. The fans in Edmonton responded when the series returned north by loudly and rambunctiously singing the American anthem followed by a rousing standing ovation afterward. Then they sang the Canadian anthem even louder. If you watched the whole playoffs, you no doubt saw the fans in Carolina grasp this and competitive anthem singing (at least in the NHL) was launched.
Oh, and Jeff Meyer, if this is the best you can come up with to write about, you’re just not trying hard enough. No controversy here, just respect for neighbours, given and returned.
“Oh, and Jeff Meyer, if this is the best you can come up with to write about, you’re just not trying hard enough. No controversy here, just respect for neighbours, given and returned.”
you think that singing oh canada at mis is strange,just “wait”.busch is going to race in montreal and there they will sing it in french.
lots of voices being heard
but to-day thurs 6-22 they on SPEED TV as usual re-broadcast the race
and lol and behold they didn’t show any of the opening but a voice over stating that the people in the stands came from over 12 diferent countrie’s and many states then went into Adam’s “GETTLEMAN START YOUR ENGINES”
somebody musta complained…but they did do it right last sunday
You ignorant *#@$&@%. I suppose you didn’t see the hockey game last week where, in Edmonton, Alberta, you could barely hear the guy singing the Star Spangled Banner because the crowd was singing it too loudly. Out of respect for the U.S. (and I was proud of them for doing it)
Sorry if the 3 minutes of class and respect shown by MIS was so damned hard for you to take. Obviously your time is much too valuable. You make me sick
You put your hat back on? While an anthem was being sung, you put your hat on? That is an affront to any country! It is mandatory for all men (and women wearing unisex style hats) to remove their hats during the singing of an anthem, regardless of the country.
I find it hard to believe that this is even a article. If you don’t like it don’t watch the race. I go up to MIS every year and camp I talk to just as many people from Canada as i do from the U.S. Also there are a lot of track workers that are from Canada. So I look as it as a thank you to all of those guys for keeping the drivers safe.
I was born in Canada, and retain dual citizenship.
I was perplexed, and initially a bit unhappy about the singing of Oh Canada at a NATIONAL (as in U.S.) stock car event. I think if they would have explained why as part of the songs intro, and said “Please stand for the singing of Oh Canada and The Star Spangled Banner” it would have helped a lot.
To put it into perspective…
Both anthems are sung at Hockey games whn teams are from both countries.
Both anthems are sung at all star games when players are from teams originating in both countries.
There aren’t any Canadian based NASCAR teams (unless CASCAR is part of NASCAR)
Why all the crying over our anthem?..
ignorance is bliss they say…... wishing i could be mentally challenged or an american so i could be ignorant of the world around me too !
I don’t have a problem with them singing the Canadian National Anthem, but I believe the reason it was televised for the first time is Nascar’s continuing greed.They’re marketing to the Canadians. It’s never enough. There is a Busch race scheduled for Canada next year and I would bet Cup will follow in years to come and they are trying to show how nice they will be and how much they want them to be part of their sport. Good business and marketing, maybe but they show no loyalty to the fans they already have who have supported their sport for years. I wonder which track will lose a race when they star racing in Canada
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