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Mayfield Drama Exposes NASCAR's Credibility Problem

Kurt Smith · Friday July 24, 2009

 

It has been interesting to read the articles and comments devoted to the Mayfield mess. The surprise is the amount of fans in Mayfield’s corner. Some are lashing out at the institution of NASCAR as if it were a driver who had just wrecked their hero; others are presenting reasonable and thoughtful scenarios where Mayfield truly could be innocent.

Fox Sports conducted a poll asking people who they believe in the controversy. 25% sided with Mayfield. That isn’t a majority, but it’s a lot for a guy who failed two drug tests. But forget the poll—why does Fox even ask the question?

Mayfield, as everyone knows, has fiercely denied using banned substances. As did Barry Bonds, Rafael Palmeiro and just about any other athlete who was suspected. And with the athletes who do get caught, the pattern is generally the same: denials, excuses, baffling stories about how it happened that make it anyone’s fault but the athlete’s. The story is almost predictable by now.

Athletes failing a drug test and then proclaiming their innocence or astounding ignorance is not new. The main reason for it is that failing a drug test is profoundly embarrassing. If you’re in the public eye like an Alex Rodriguez and you get busted, chances are pretty good your mother will find out. And so an athlete makes a statement or two at least partially deflecting responsibility for it. But generally the public doesn’t buy it…like some are with Mayfield. In other sports, athletes are basically guilty until proven innocent.

If Mayfield were getting crucified in the court of public opinion, there might be a lot of different things happening. But he really isn’t. There are some writers and people giving interviews that believe he has a problem and compassionately say he should get out now. Very few, if any at all, have spoken of Mayfield and his reaction with the disdain shown for the Barry Bonds types of the world.

The drama surrounding the Jeremy Mayfield drug scandal has exposed what is possibly NASCAR’s biggest issue—a credibility problem.

Our own Tom Bowles made the case earlier this week for at least waiting until all the facts come in before making a judgment, in light of NASCAR’s handling of the Tim Richmond case. I’m fine with that. But he is one of the few to even bring Richmond’s name into it. Whatever the merits of NASCAR’s case against Richmond, this was 20 years ago, and I doubt most of the folks with a take on the Mayfield case were even following NASCAR then.

In baseball, football and other sports, I have yet to see the validity of a drug test questioned. There are other ridiculous excuses made—yes, my arms doubled in size the day after the injection my highly recommended doctor gave me, but no, of course I never made the connection—but baseball and football have yet to have their integrity seriously challenged in this regard. This is a whole new reaction, and apparently, NASCAR is vulnerable to such accusations.

It seems obvious that NASCAR and Aegis labs have nothing to gain and everything to lose by doctoring up evidence in order to remove Jeremy Mayfield from the track, especially the second time around when everyone is watching. Mayfield is suggesting exactly that and screaming his innocence from the rooftops, but he has offered little in the way of what NASCAR’s motive would be for destroying his career and his life.

A participant in a sport failed two drug tests…something I haven’t often seen with athletes not named Steve Howe…and there are still plenty of fans and even some writers who are in doubt about his guilt. Looking at all of the facts I could find, it looks as though NASCAR has their legal ducks in a row, while Mayfield has loud denials and his own negative drug tests at a lab recommended by his lawyer—and that lab won’t comment on the validity of their tests. But that isn’t even relevant. NASCAR doesn’t have to allow someone who passes drug tests at a lab specified by his lawyer on the track to race. They’re an employer. They can decide who participates.

Reading NASCAR’s affidavit—most of which has thus far been challenged weakly at best by Mayfield and his attorney—gives a very strong impression that Mayfield did everything he could to stall—getting lost trying to find the lab, then saying he didn’t need to go, not answering phones and not calling the lab. Then he finally produced a sample that was diluted from drinking lots of water. Mayfield has said his sample was “spiked”. If he is guilty, he is digging one deep hole.

And that’s an interesting point that I’ve come to…reading affidavits containing all of the details on how a drug test was performed. Can’t say I did that with Manny Ramirez, and he only failed one test. So it’s curious why NASCAR seems to have so little credibility here when compared to other sports, especially considering that if any sport ought to be drug testing, it’s NASCAR.

Maybe it’s because the drug testing program is new, and Mayfield is its first high-profile victim. I don’t know if NASCAR was expecting the repeated denials and backlash from Mayfield. But it does seem as though they were prepared for once, documenting all of the events surrounding the second drug test and testing the second time in a manner that would exclude false positives, which Mayfield had claimed turned up in the original test. So far there haven’t been a lot of holes in NASCAR’s case, although I do have doubts about Mayfield’s stepmother.

Or it could be that NASCAR fans tend to be in the participants’ corner more because NASCAR hasn’t had the labor struggles baseball and other sports have had…and so drivers haven’t been tagged with the millionaire prima donna label as much. Few things are more despicable to people who are struggling with mortgage payments than seeing multi-millionaires who play a game for a living on a picket line. And athletes in such sports take a PR hit for it. NASCAR drivers are often pampered millionaires too, but at least they show up for work. And so, at least, that damage isn’t done to their public persona that would tip the scales against them in other matters.

It may be that Jeremy Mayfield is innocent and may someday really be a hero for pointing out substantial flaws in current methods of drug testing. But I didn’t see Aaron Fike or Shane Hmiel protesting their results and insisting that their sample was “spiked” or conducting their own independent lab tests. It’s doubtful that they would have kept their mouths shut for the good of the sport.

Or it may just ultimately be that NASCAR really does have a credibility problem—not just with the Carl Long fiasco, where NASCAR basically killed a flea with a nuclear weapon—but with all those little things that get fans’ goats, things like questionable debris cautions and selective rule enforcement. Every time a yellow flag flies for debris, people are wondering who was about to go a lap down and got saved, or who needed to catch up to the leader. Reports of Dale Jr. being about to go a lap down just before a debris caution are often found in message boards on Mondays. When no less an authority as Tony Stewart complains about it, why would fans be nuts to suspect a conspiracy? Justified or not, things are often perceived that way.

Who’s to say? It just seems strange that I’ve never seen a baseball or football player fail a league-sanctioned drug test not once but twice, and still have a sizable chunk of fans and even some reporters in his corner.

Somewhere Tim Richmond is laughing.

Kurt’s Shorts

  • Jeff Gordon insists that there won’t be a repeat of the tire issues that turned last year’s Indianapolis event into NASCAR’s worst race ever. Well I should hope not. They’d have to shut down their citizen journalist site in a hurry.
  • Well Dewalt is ending its 10-year tradition of sponsoring the No. 17, as reported in today’s newsletter. Too bad. That would make the Dupont-Gordon-24 team the last sponsor-driver-number combo over 10 years old, would it not? I know Miller has been with the 2 for a while, but not with one driver. And Michael Waltrip changed numbers.
  • Kasey Kahne is making his 200th start this weekend. Wow, does time freakin’ fly. Wasn’t he battling for his first win in just the second race of his full-time career five minutes ago? Congrats to Kasey and the No. 9 team.
  • And congratulations to White Sox pitcher Mark Buehrle on that rarest of rarities yesterday, a perfect game. Just the 18th in baseball history. However, no one has yet to equal Harvey Haddix.

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Lunar Tunes
07/24/2009 12:54 AM
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Since May, Mayfield has been tested at least 15 times. Like he asked, if he is a chronic user as nascar claims, why have only 2 of the 15 come back positive?

Jeff Meyer
07/24/2009 01:03 AM
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Remember, Brian France is a MARKETING guy. Always has been and will be. He has no credible background to RUN the company only to SELL it! That is what he was groomed for.

Questions that go through my mind however are these….

Nascar revamps their drug policy not long ago because they had to due to Aaron Fikes arrest and admission that he did heroin on race days. If not for that, I do not believe nascar would have touched it. It was done simply because they needed to APPEAR to be doing SOMETHING. However, ratings are still falling, attendance and revenue are down. What to do? The stick and ball sports are having drug controversy all the time and it garners LOTS of publicity. Is it below the marketing powers that rule nascar to pick a semi popular driver and create a case as an example? Here is a guy that is toward the end of his career anyway…lets face it, he’s left a bad taste in previous employers mouths to the point that he could not get a ride. The only way he can race is to start his own team. Early on in the year, some of his crew is busted for failed drug testing…..why not take it a step further? Make him an example, get lots of publicity, appear to be like the stick and ball sport and you get to test you new policy while you are at it! Jeremy Mayfield is a nothing really, in the sport of nascar. They knew he would not go quietly. He’d put up a good fight until his funds ran out. They knew they could outlast him. Even if nascar is WRONG and they made it all up, they can just quietly drop the whole thing, assign one junior lawyer to occasionally maintain their side publicly. Meanwhile, Mayfield is ALREADY finished! He will never race again even if he is innocent. Sponsors wont touch him, he aint got no money, he’s gone. But hey, sure made some great headlines for nascar along the way, didn’t it? They are on top of it just like the NFL and MLB!

Why is it always some little guy that gets caught? Would this be going on if Dale Jr, the most popular and biggest cash cow tested + for meth or any drug? Or any popular driver for that matter. Gordon, Stewart, etc. Or do they have too many fans for a scandal like this to be productive for nascar? Personally, I think they could DO DRuGS WITH Brian France and get away with it. They are too powerful a marketing tool. Mayfield on the other hand can be of more use right where they got him.

Why doesn’t Brian France take a drug test? Is he immune from testing? Has he ever been tested? He’s running the sport, making the decisions, he should be clear headed too don’t ya think? Just like the lawmakers in DC that support Obamas new healthcare plan…..if it is good enough for the rest of the country, then the politicians should have to abide by it too! Think THAT will happen?

Fred
07/24/2009 05:10 AM
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Kurt, just the fact the say that “NASCAR might have a credibility problem” makes me wonder if you have even watched a race.

The only reason the Mayfield and Carl Long incidents are being questioned is NASCAR’s lack of credibility. The dictatorship of the sport is going to be its downfall. And it is looking like without some major changes, like most sports have, of a separate governing body, NASCAR will never have any credibility.

I could write a few pages of non-credible issues that have happened in just the past year. I’m still amazed that NASCAR could determine that a engine that had the bottom end blow up was one 2,000th of an inch too big.

josie
07/24/2009 07:04 AM
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Kurt..I have asked this question of a few columists and so far have gotten no answer. If NASCAR mandated at the beginning of the season a mandatory drug test for all drivers/crew members..how did Mayfield do on that test? I assume he passed..which given his stepmom’s testimony means Mayfield must of abstained so he could pass. If so..knowing the stakes NOW and that the eyes of world are on him..why wouldn’t he abstain now..instead NASCAR keeps showing him positive..just doesn’t make sense???

Charlie
07/24/2009 07:47 AM
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First, in professional sports such as baseball and football, the player’s union has dictates how the tests are done, who does them and what the substances are to be tested. There are two samples taken and if one shows positive, the second is sent to a different lab for confirmation. MLB or NFL commissioners cannot order a test from its lab and then ban someone for a substance not-yet named.
Same for the other professional sports, Hockey and NBA.
NASCAR does not adhere to this. Drivers and owners have no say. I think it’s great the Court overturned the ruling.
A Federal Judge is not stupid. At his resource are cleaks and research teams to find out what is the proper method. NASCAR or its lawyers, not sure which, miscalculated when it got to Federal Court. Usually, the master rules the slave in that venue. That’s what makes it so interesting that Mayfield won.
NASCAR had better be careful or this could unravel the whole sport.

Gordon82Wins
07/24/2009 07:47 AM
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Interesting that NASCAR has all of its “legal ducks in a row” with Mayfield. If only they had that determination to bring a good tire to Indy last year.

Mike in Floyd Va
07/24/2009 07:58 AM
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Strange how Mayfield could pass the pre-season drug test and yet fail just a few months later. Would NASCAR or Aegis Labs spike his urine sample? You bet your sweet bippy they would. NASCAR has gone out of its’ way to ruin the careers of several drivers and journalists. If that isn’t enough, after all of the mystery debris cautions, allowing drivers to run illegal parts, speeding penalties on cars that weren’t speeding, lug nuts that weren’t missing, and being “bought” by at least two manufacturers over the last 25 years, I’d say their credibility is pretty much non-existent. Hopefully Mayfield ends up having Brian France wash and wax his car and fetch his coffee as Mayfield would be the new CEO of NASCAR.

ezrider714
07/24/2009 08:01 AM
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If na$car had anything in a row there would be no need for the manufactured dog and pony show they have been producing. your research on drug testing has apparently come up short,if you believe na$car’s test please give a credible reason how Mayfield is still alive.

Douglas
07/24/2009 08:26 AM
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WRONG! WRONG! WRONG!

Your “NASCAR doesn’t have to allow someone who passes drug tests at a lab specified by his lawyer on the track to race. They’re an employer. They can decide who participates.”

Is TOTALLY WRONG!

Your falling into the NA$CRAP trickery!

NA$CRAP takes great pains to “legally” keep the drivers at a distance, by proclaiming them as “INDEPENDENT CONTRACTORS”!

NOT EMPLOYEES!

Don’t be surprised to see this come up as an issue in the Mayfield case!

In other words, how can a “non-employer”, in this case NA$CRAP! Dictate drug testing to a “NON-EMPLOYEE”?

And credibility is the issue, NA$CRAP thinks with all it’s money, and believe me, it is LOTS OF MONEY! That money buys everything in the justice system! Of course, mostly they are correct, those with the money generally prevail, but apparently Jeremy has enough backing to continue this thing, a fact I hope is true!

Go Jeremy!

Oh, by the way, just watched Shane Hmiel & father at Terre Haute Action Track in the USAC Sprints. Maybe Shane did not have enough money to get a good attorney, you know how NA$CRAP threatens EVERYONE that stands in their way!

Remember the “special meeting” at MIS a year ago when NA$CRAP had the audacity to TELL the drivers to shut up and stop going public on their compliants about the WMD!, err, the CoT?

Can one say arrogant?

John
07/24/2009 08:27 AM
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I think there’s a couple of significant points which were overlooked in the comparisons given in the article.

Firstly, when compared to Bonds, etc, those players were accused of using perfomance enhancing drugs which are banned in their sport but otherwise legal. Mayfield has not been accused of using a performance enhancing drug, he’s been accused of using an illegal recreational drug which, if he’s guilty, should send him to jail. That accusation requires a higher standard of accuracy.

Secondly, the comparison to Fike and Hmiel fails because both of those drivers admitted using drugs – there is no question of a false positive there, because they admitted guilt.

mick
07/24/2009 09:16 AM
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“the Carl Long fiasco, where NASCAR basically killed a flea with a nuclear weapon”

Excellent line.

M.B. Voelker
07/24/2009 09:17 AM
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Nascar only has a credibility problem with the minority of “fans” who get their entertainment out of bashing the organization rather than from enjoying the racing. An attitude fueled by many reporters, including the majority on this website, who make their living stirring that pot and throwing red meat to the howling pack.

I don’t know why Nascar attracts more “fans” who see black helicopters and wear tinfoil hats than other sports, but those “fans” and the writers who pander to them are the ones whose credibility I question.

Its time for the serious journalists to step up and do some real investigation. Not one reporter has spent the time and exerted the effort to delve into how drug testing is done — both the collection of samples and the science of the testing — in other sports AND in other lines of work where the safety of the public is an issue.

The one real flaw in Nascar’s drug testing policy that this mess has revealed is that sample collection is not “observed” — since if it were then Mayfield would have not been able to get away with his shtick about the humiliation of having an observed sample taken.

Since Nascar gets the majority of the medical staff locally at each track, I propose that all sample collection be “observed” — with the test subject exposed from waist to knees — by a random, same-sex, member of the local medical staff. It would be nearly impossible for any member of Nascar’s traveling circus to influence/bribe such a person in advance.

And, as a side note about Mayfield’s “humiliation”, given his claims of innocence and his accusations of Nascar malfeasance a logical person would expect him not to protest “observed” collection but rather to insist on is and even to insist on multiple witnesses including members of the press.

M.B. Voelker
07/24/2009 10:19 AM
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Both Carl Long and Tim Richmond are red herrings that have nothing whatsoever to do with Mayfield.

Carl Long’s penalty for an illegal engine was entirely in line with Nascar’s recent policy of escalating penalties to stop teams from cheating. It was actually an example of Nascar being consistent. But the same people who continually scream “Nascar is inconsistent,” and who would have applauded seeing that penalty given to Hendrick if Hendrick had been foolish enough to show up with an exactly identical illegal engine wanted Nascar to show favoritism to Carl Long and give him special treatment.

As for Tim Richmond, keeping him off the track was a safety issue. AIDS was (and remains), an incurable disease with a 100% mortality rate which is transmitted via body fluids. The precise level of danger of various body fluids was not yet understood for the then new and rare disease.

At that time medical and emergency professionals had not yet come up with the procedures and special equipment that now allows them to handle bloody wrecks with minimal (not zero, but minimal), danger to the medical/rescue responders. But if a driver today had AIDS and a bloody wreck ended up in the stands or in the infield the fans would be completely unprotected.

No one is to blame for Tim Richmond’s self-destruction but Tim Richmond himself. And Nascar’s use of a technicality on Richmond’s drug test to keep him from endangering people (after all, he was irresponsible enough to pass his disease to several woman by continuing his promiscuous ways), was as justified as getting Al Capone off the streets on tax evasion was.

As for Mayfield’s pre-season test, since Nascar’s sample collections are, apparently, not “observed” Mayfield would have had the opportunity to obtain and substitute clean urine.

Or, to give him some credit, perhaps he tried to overcome his problem and stayed clean for a time then backslid — as druggies frequently do.

Joe C.
07/24/2009 10:58 AM
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re: M.B. Voelker’s comment regarding NASCAR’s credibility and that it exists only with those who want to bash the organization, etc.

I haven’t given up on NASCAR, and still watch and enjoy the racing, but they do have a significant number of problems, many of which stem from their arrogance and heavy-handed way of running things. If this manner of running an organization doesn’t tend to produce a lack of credibility in the eyes of many, I don’t know what would. And though you can argue whether current management is worse or not, it’s been this way since Bill Sr. was in charge. NASCAR has always been a “my way or the highway” organization.

Regardless of how you feel, you can’t label all of those who question NASCAR’s credibility conspiracy theorists.

mkrcr
07/24/2009 11:10 AM
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MB, I actually applaud Mayfield for being able to “go” with someone watching. If I was in that situation I’d be accused of stalling for days.
But really, what is there to investigate? Medical records are private and defendants (except Mayfield) aren’t going to comment due to the lawsuit. All that’s left is the deserving mistrust earned by NA$CAR and the opinions that generates. And even when it does get settled in court I doubt all the facts will ever be known. If you want to know about Drug Testing procedures, check out http://stockcarscience.com/blog/index.php.
Got to go, damn helicopters are back!

EE
07/24/2009 11:10 AM
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I agree with your statement that NAS$AR has everything to loose and nothing to gain by going down this road but not for the reasons you state. NAS$AR stands to loose it’s position of unquestioned authority if they don’t end up winning this case. That is their motivation for this playing out the way it is (i.e. very public and unprofessional). The unwritten statement to the drivers or anyone else that challenges NAS$AR is that you will be ruined if you challenge us.

Don Mei
07/24/2009 11:20 AM
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Tell me M.B., would keeping Brian away from the office constiture a “safety issue”? Nascar went after Richmond because his “lifestyle” offended the “good ole boy” mentality of the France family. You have the temerity to talk about “red herrings” vis-a-vis Mayfield and then claim banning Richmond was to prtotect the fans from a bloody wreck ending up in the stands! What an absurdity, what a steaming pile of dung.

steve
07/24/2009 12:04 PM
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You write that NASCAR and their lab have everything to loose and nothing to gain. I would say you are right if a mistake was not made on the first test. But, if a mistake was made and NASCAR announced to the world at a press conference that Jeremy Mayfield tested positive for using a banned substance, then NASCAR and/or its lab has a lot to loose. I can’t help but believe that NASCAR and Aegis Labs have everything to loose. I don’ think NASCAR was attempting to destroy Mayfield or make him an example, but I do believe they may have made a mistake on the first test, and now are protecting their butts.

Joe W.
07/24/2009 12:19 PM
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M.B. It is easy to see that you did not like Tim Richmond. Did you know him? I did not, but I enjoyed watching him race. I agree that AIDS is a scary disease and not much was know about it in the 1980’s but do you think that makes it O.K. to falsify tests? Do you really think someone claiming to have a moral high ground can act in an immoral way and not suffer credability issues? It is immoral to lie and faslify tests. There is more to morality than just sexual morality. I understand that Nascar did not like Tim Richmond’s lifestyle, but do you truly think he is the only driver to live that lifestyle. They were afraid of bad publicity and lied. I DO NOT hate Nascar, but I do not like the way the organization works. I love the racing, the cars, the drivers, the fans and those things that make it a spectacle. But there is a credability problem and they need to fix it before it is to late.

Mike
07/24/2009 12:32 PM
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NA$CAR and Brian France. Who in their right mind would ever believe anything they say?

Douglas
07/24/2009 12:49 PM
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Hey M.B.Voelker!

Your “rather than from enjoying the racing.”

WHAT RACING? NA$CRAP simply IS NOT RACING ANYMORE!

How funny ANYONE can be accused of calling NA$CRAP “RACING”!

It ain’t, my friend, it ain’t!

janice
07/24/2009 01:53 PM
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you know, the independent contractor aspect is of interest. i wonder if na$car has met with all the owners and told them that if they wish to compete in their series that they need to rewrite their driver contracts to state that they will submit to random drug/alcohol screening. employees are normally the only ones who fall under that guideline. so the drivers are contracted with the owners. are the owners employees of na$car? seems to me like the only employees of na$car are the officials. everyone else is an independent contractor. when driver negotiates his contract, it’s with the team owner, not with the owner and na$car. now being a owner/driver, did mayfield have a different type of relationship with na$car?

it’s going to get down to splitting hairs (sic).

na$car rules aren’t public, and change as the wind blows. every penalty falls under a general clause in the “rule book”. i have always felt that that rule book was written in invisible ink and subject to interpretation, and remember, the leader of the organization isn’t the brightest crayon in the box.

Fred
07/24/2009 02:54 PM
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Just a quick note about Independent Contractors, since I have been one for most of the last 15 years. You still sign a contract, if that contract states that you must be drug free and submit to drug tests, then, if you want the contract, you have to abide by that. I’ve had to take many drug tests over the years.

I will also add the the labs vary greatly to how strick they are. Some do all but hold the cup for you, while others let you shut the door behind you, and just don’t let you flush the toilet or use the sink until you give them the sample. It is up to the company, NASCAR in Mayfield’s case, to decide how strict they want their tests to be.

FSBeth
07/24/2009 03:20 PM
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Everyone brings up valid points about the whole mess that has been created here. I’d like to invite all of you to join our Jeremy Mayfield discussion on the Frontstretch Forums.

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If you’re not a member, register and click on the link in your activation email. And if you have any trouble getting your activation email, send a message to beth.lunkenheimer@frontstretch.com with your username, and I will activate your account manually.

Used_to
07/24/2009 03:43 PM
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I hate you more everyday Na$crap. So glad I don’t watch it at all anymore! Just like to come on here and hear people rip on it! Excellent! Up yours Brian France!

zppr
07/24/2009 04:27 PM
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you seem to have fairly biased opinion. while you try to put it off a as “Neutral” one.
indeed what does nascar have to gain? saving face for 1. in the TM issue they paid their drug lab to falsify the reports, and TM did deny any wrong doing, then sue nascar which of course settled out of court with a gag order after he passed away.
what about the sexual suit last year(or 2). nascar trashed that womans rep and called her a poor employee, yet she produced several certificates to her from nascar on her work ethic. that too was settled with a gag order.

1 very little noted items is how almost every driver came out against the COT till the “meeting” last year, and many pointed out had they had never been tested, and/or stating that they did not think JM was a drug user.
Nascar controls their football with an iron fist, and will defend it to the end.
what is lost in all of this is if JM is guilty or not. What really points to nascar falsifying the tests are their own reports, the extremely high levels in JM’s system that they themselves have reported. it is an extreme level of use, add to the fact that JM was tested in Jan, and with previous employers. none of it adds up.

either nascar is lying or Jm is trying to pull off the biggest lie in nascar in a long time.

zppr
07/24/2009 04:36 PM
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M.B. as far as TR goes, you are of course aware that nascar did not know at the time, that he had aids, right? and of course you followed up on it and know that the doctor/testing facility falsified his tests? that TR sued nascar, and it was settled out of court with a gag order? you know all of that correct?

KenKars
07/24/2009 05:30 PM
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Quoting from your column, “So it’s curious why NASCAR seems to have so little credibility here when compared to other sports” ARE YOU KIDDING ME?? NASCAR has a BIG credibility problem in almost everything they do !! “Debris Cautions” whenever they need to bunch up the fields, Carl Long, Tim Richmond and did you read the current Wendell Scott book??? NASCAR has had a credibility problem almost from the day it was formed !!

Richard in N.C.
07/24/2009 06:14 PM
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Good article and M.B. good points. As a condition to getting his Cup license for 2009 JM had to agree to abide by the terms of NASCAR’s drug testing policy, including having his team members tested for specified substances before the season began. One of the first 2 crewmen to flunk a random drug test was a JM employee, and JM’s response was to fire the employee.

From what I have read, the NFL also has the B specimen tested by the same lab if the A sample comes back positive. What I have not seen is where anyone in the media has made the effort to do a thorough comparison of NASCAR’s testing program to that of any other major racing series, major sport, or the DOT.

Whether or not JM is guilty hopefully will be determined out in public in court so there can be no questions unanswered.

It is clear to me that there is a significant segment of the media that virtually always bashes NASCAR no matter what – either because it is believed that bashing NASCAR sells or they still harbor a grudge against NASCAR.

Kevin in SoCal
07/24/2009 06:17 PM
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M.B., I agree with you, as usual. I see no point in the many NASCAR haters who post here, some who claim they dont even watch the races anymore. Why waste your time posting here if all you do is bash NASCAR and dont watch or support it?

Jeff Meyer
07/24/2009 06:36 PM
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M B Voelker I will no longer be shy about it….
“An attitude fueled by many reporters, including the majority on this website, who make their living stirring that pot and throwing red meat to the howling pack.

I don’t know why Nascar attracts more “fans” who see black helicopters and wear tinfoil hats than other sports, but those “fans” and the writers who pander to them are the ones whose credibility I question.”

Well that is a simple fix..don’t read here no more! There are other stands that sell the flavor of kool aid you like.

midasmicah
07/24/2009 07:12 PM
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nas$car is a dictatorship. Plain and simple. Always has been and always will be. Comparing nas$car to other sports like baseball and football is a joke. At least in other sports YOU DO GET YOUR DAY IN COURT. You stand up to nas$car and they will give you the boot heel treatment. Just ask Carl Long. Right or wrong Mayfield stood up to them and they’ll stoop to pretty low levels to squash him. The stepmother issue speaks volumes. nas$car’s Nero France has fiddled at his best when some crediability is needed from this organization. It makes me want to vomit when I watch the nas$car media sucks up to them. All I ask is that everyone remember that in this country everyone is SUPPOSED to be innocent until proven guilty. Problem is nas$car will go to any means to prove somebody guilty.

Lou
07/24/2009 10:30 PM
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as a long time fan of nascar I dont get upset with their horsecrap rules , rulings and make up rules as they go approach . why ? because its barnum and bailey wwe wraped up in one , how many times have we seen a driver not named gordon , johnson or back in the day dale jr fading and all of the sudden caution for a hot dog wrapper and then we watch a 8 lap yellow while everyone can work on their car and the network runs 10 commercials , over the last 7 or 8 years i have slowly drifted from the sport because helton , brian france and their minions have gutted this sport , they have made it a joke period , the drivers need a union to stand up to the dictatorship and im a non union guy , but carl long got tied to the whipping post robbie gordon always gets the shaft as well . go jeremy smokey yunick is looking down and saying i told u about nascar old richard petty would cheat every week but nascar always busted smokey

Marc
07/25/2009 08:29 PM
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MB is drunk from all the Nascar Kool Aid she drinks. That is the only explanation for her blindness.

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