NASCAR Changes Qualifying Format
posted by Summer Bedgood
Tuesday March 11, 2014
Following safety concerns regarding NASCAR’s new qualifying format, the sanctioning body is introducing some changes in preparation for this weekend’s race at Bristol Motor Speedway. According to the Associated Press, NASCAR is banning teams from cool-down laps after their qualifying attempts, but will instead be allowed to hook up cool-down units to the engine through hood flaps.
Late Tuesday afternoon, a release from NASCAR fully detailed the changes. Teams will be allowed a single cool down unit to be connected through the right or left side hood flap, however the hood must remain closed. Additionally, two crew members will be allowed over the wall while cooling down.
“The qualifying is new to all of us and as we have said over the past several weeks, we are looking at it from all aspects,” said Robin Pemberton, vice president of competition and racing development. “Following discussions, both internally and with others in the garage area, we moved quickly to make a few revisions that will be effective starting with our two national series events at Bristol Motor Speedway this weekend. We believe this will only enhance and improve what has demonstrated to be an exciting form of qualifying for our fans, competitors and others involved with the sport. Moving forward we will continue to look at it and address anything else that we may need to as the season unfolds.”
The move comes after three weeks of NASCAR’s new knockout qualifying system, where multiple cars are allowed to make qualifying attempts at the same time instead of the traditional one-car-at-a-time procedure. Drivers and teams had complained that the new rules didn’t allow them to cool their engines down on pit road, and the cool-down laps caused a dangerous situation with slower cars staying on the track at the same time that other cars were running by them at much higher speeds.
The rule will begin this weekend in Bristol, a track that has a much narrower racing surface than Daytona, Phoenix, and Las Vegas.
Kurt Busch to Attempt The Indianapolis-Charlotte Double
posted by Phil Allaway
Tuesday March 4, 2014
Andretti Autosport announced this morning that Kurt Busch, driver of the No. 41 Haas Automation Chevrolet in the Sprint Cup Series, will attempt the Indianapolis 500 in a fifth entry for the IndyCar Series team. Once the Indianapolis 500 is completed, Busch will fly from Indianapolis to Charlotte, jump in his No. 41 Chevrolet and compete in the Coca-Cola 600 at Charlotte Motor Speedway.
Busch considers the opportunity to do the double as an old-school throwback moment.
“This is really to challenge myself within motorsports,” Busch said in Andretti Autosport’s press release. “Perhaps I am a bit of an old-school racer; a throwback, I guess. I enjoyed the era of drivers racing different cars and testing themselves in other series. It is tough to do now for a variety of factors, but when the opportunity is there, I want to do it. While NASCAR is my home, I have been fortunate to compete in Pro Stock on the NHRA circuit a number of years ago and test a V8 Supercar. This opportunity was a talk with Michael [Andretti] over dinner one night, a “What if,” and now it’s becoming a reality for me to drive in the Indy 500 with Andretti Autosport. It’s literally a dream come true. To go to the famous Brickyard with the iconic Andretti name, it doesn’t get much cooler or better than that.”
Busch will be doing the Indianapolis-Charlotte double as a Memorial Day mission to men and women serving in the U.S. Military via the Armed Forces Foundation. Fans can contribute to the cause by texting AFF to 50555 to donate $10.
Busch, who has never raced an IndyCar, passed Rookie Orientation at the Indianapolis Motor Speedway last year during a test session. At the time, Busch was more or less testing the Dallara DW12 for fun.
Busch will be the fourth driver to attempt the Indianapolis-Charlotte double. John Andretti was the first driver to attempt it in 1994. After finishing four laps down in tenth in Indianapolis, Andretti crashed and had engine problems in the 600. Robby Gordon has attempted the double five times, most recently in 2004. However, Gordon failed to make it to Charlotte on time and did not start the 600 in 2000 (P.J. Jones started Gordon’s No. 13 Ford in that instance). Finally, Tony Stewart has attempted the double twice (most recently in 2001) and is the only driver to ever complete all 1100 miles. Neither of the three drivers has won either leg of the double. The best finishes are Stewart and Gordon’s sixth-place finishes at the Indianapolis 500 (although Gordon’s came in 2000, the year he didn’t make it to Charlotte in time to start the Coca-Cola 600), and Stewart’s fourth-place finish in the 2001 Coca-Cola 600.
Danica Patrick, Justin Allgaier Talk About Phoenix Incident
posted by Frontstretch Staff
Tuesday March 4, 2014
A disappointing start to the year for Danica Patrick won’t include continued conflict. Patrick met with rookie Justin Allgaier Sunday, shortly after the Phoenix Cup race after a wreck ruined both drivers’ days. Patrick, who was critical of the No. 51 car on the radio, claiming Allgaier was “driving all over the track” appeared receptive to a conversation that quickly settled differences over what will be a long season.
“She was just upset because she got involved in the crash that we had,’’ said Allgaier to the Motor Racing Network. “She says she’s been through this and that she felt like I needed to settle down at that point. I explained my position on why everything happened. I think she understood where I was coming from. It doesn’t fix either one of our racecars. It doesn’t fix either one of our days. Unfortunately, we were both having pretty decent days.’’
Allgaier wound up 30th due to the incident while Patrick was 36th. The incident, which was caused by Allgaier’s spin also involved the No. 32 team and Travis Kvapil, which wound up 38th after sustaining heavy damage.
Camping World Close to Extending Title Sponsorship of NCWTS
posted by Frontstretch Staff
Tuesday March 4, 2014
Marcus Lemonis, CEO of Camping World, Grand Marshal of Sunday’s Sprint Cup race at Phoenix International Raceway, and star of CNBC’s “The Profit,” made the announcement over the weekend that the retailer is very close to announcing a deal that would continue its title sponsorship of NASCAR’s Truck Series. The original agreement with NASCAR is scheduled to conclude after the 2015 season.
According to the sanctioning body, no formal contract has been signed, but “the agreement between the two parties has proven to be a beneficial one.”
“In about a month, we’ll be announcing a significant extension to that contract. It’s been great for us,” said Camping World’s Lemonis in a statement. “The NASCAR relationship has worked well for Camping World. When we started, we had 35 stores. Now, we’re up to 120 stores. As we travel the country and we meet new customers in stores, they always are very appreciative of our relationship with NASCAR. It’s been good.”
Gaining a long-term commitment from Camping World to sponsor the Truck Series would be a relief for NASCAR, which is set to lose Nationwide Insurance as title sponsor for the NASCAR Nationwide Series at the end of the 2014 season. The sponsorship of the Cup Series by Sprint runs through 2016.
The NCWTS is back in action on March 29th at 2:30 PM (ET) when the trucks visit Martinsville Speedway in the Kroger 250, which can be seen on Fox Sports 1. Ratings for the season opener were up 11 percent.
Harvick Takes Win At Phoenix In Second Race With New Team
posted by Justin Tucker
Monday March 3, 2014
Phoenix International Raceway has become Kevin Harvick’s home away from home. Sunday Afternoon was no exception as Harvick charged to the front early and would dominate for much of the day, leading 224 of the scheduled 312 laps to record his record fifth win on the one mile oval and his third win in the last four races at Phoenix.
Harvick, coming off of a disappointing Speedweeks which was capped by a last lap crash in the Daytona 500 in his debut with Stewart-Haas Racing, set the tone on Saturday by winning both practices while having the best 5 and 10-lap averages in the first practice of the day on Saturday. On Sunday, Harvick and his No. 4 Jimmy John’s Chevrolet was nothing short of flawless as he was able to hold Dale Earnhardt, Jr. by .489 seconds after a late race restart to claim his 24th career Sprint Cup Series victory.
“Man, this is awesome,” Harvick said after his dominant victory on Sunday. “Man, this just solidifies so many things and so many decisions. It’s been so much work with all the time and effort that these guys (the crew) have put in—but what a race car.”
Stewart Haas Racing co-owner Gene Haas shared in Harvick’s excitement after the race.
“It took long enough,” Haas joked. “This is phenomenal. I think there was a lot of skepticism last year about what myself and Tony (Stewart) what we were up to, was there a lot of madness to this. Quite frankly, it’s a great team, there’s a lot of synergy at the shop, people working together. I don’t know what we did, but I think we put together a great organization.”
Daytona 500 winner Dale Earnhardt, Jr. continued his hot start to the 2014 season. Earnhardt Jr. would finish second on Sunday, marking his seventh consecutive top 10 finish since the end of the 2013 season. Earnhardt Jr. was pleased with the effort after a coast-to-coast whirlwind week after winning his second Daytona 500 and also gave great praise to the efforts of Harvick and the No. 4 team.
“I’ve got to congratulate Kevin. Those guys were two-tenths faster than everyone all weekend in practice. They were just phenomenal,” Earnhardt said. “To be able to run with them all day was a big confidence builder for us.”
Joining Harvick and Earnhardt in the top 5 of The Profit on CNBC 500K were Brad Keselowski with his second consecutive top 3 run of 2014 in third. Keselowski’s Team Penske teammate Joey Logano would finish fourth, and Jeff Gordon would come home fifth in his No. 24 Pepsi Max Chevrolet.
Jimmie Johnson finished in sixth, followed by Ryan Newman with a nice rebound after Daytona in seventh. Carl Edwards would carry the banner for Roush Fenway Racing by finishing eighth, Kyle Busch was ninth, and Jamie McMurray would finish tenth.
A look at the Profit on CNBC 500K by the numbers. There were 14 lead changes among eight different drivers, there were eight cautions for 39 laps which slowed the race pace to 109.229 MPH.
Next Sunday, the Sprint Cup Series heads to Sin City and the Las Vegas Motor
Starting Lineup: The Profit On CNBC 500K
posted by Thomas Bowles
Saturday March 1, 2014
Drivers in RED (i) are those ineligible to collect Sprint Cup points
Daytona 500 TV Ratings Down
posted by Frontstretch Staff
Wednesday February 26, 2014
What was the longest weather delay in Daytona 500 history turned out to bring NASCAR lower ratings and TV viewership Sunday night than expected. According to a report Monday from FOX Sports, the 56th running of the Daytona 500 airing at 8 PM (ET) posted a 5.6/10 national household rating/share which averaged 9.3 million viewers. That’s down 44 percent from last year’s 9.9, easily making it the least-watched Daytona 500 of all-time.
Due to the six-hour, twenty-two minute rain delay in Daytona, the race was up against the primetime coverage of the Winter Olympics Closing Ceremony from Sochi, Russia on NBC (15.25 million viewers). FOX also reported that 69% of the pre-rain delay viewers of the race, which began at 1 PM (ET) kept tuning in.
In comparison, the 2013 Daytona 500 on FOX was the most-watched race in five years, posting a 9.9/22 rating/share, commanding 16.7 million viewers. The Daytona 500 in 2012, the first to ever be run on a Monday and in the primetime slot did a 7.7/13 overnight rating/share which resulted in 13.67 million households viewing the race according to Nielsen TV ratings data.
Earnhardt, Jr. Claims Second Daytona 500 Victory
posted by Justin Tucker
Wednesday February 26, 2014
Ten years is a long time. For Dale Earnhardt, Jr., it felt like an eternity. NASCAR’s Most Popular Driver endured many near misses and close calls at the Daytona 500 since his only win in the Great American Race in 2004. Earnhardt had finished second in two of his last three Daytona 500s coming into Sunday’s race. He was also riding the tail of a 55-race winless streak, dating back to Michigan in 2012.
However nothing would stop Dale Jr. on Sunday, not even a 6 hour and 22 minute rain delay from capturing his second Daytona 500 win. Earnhardt Jr. led a race-high 54 laps on the evening and used some timely drafting help from teammates Jimmie Johnson and, on the final restart, Jeff Gordon to separate from the pack and secure the victory.
“Winning this race is the greatest feeling that you could feel in this sport besides accepting the trophy for the championship,” said a jubilant Earnhardt after pulling into Victory Lane. “We could fight off battle after battle. We got a little help at the end there from Jeff to get away on the restart. This is amazing. I can’t believe this is happening. I never take this for granted, man because it doesn’t happen twice, let alone once.”
Aside from the race itself the big story of the race was the 6 hour and 22 minute red flag, which threatened to move the race to Monday evening (had the race been postponed, FOX Sports’ Chris Myers had tweeted that the race would resume at 5:00pm EST). However, Mother Nature would cooperate and would allow the race to be run under different conditions from which they practiced this week. Once the race resumed, the intensity picked up from the changing track conditions. This allowed the pack to race side-by-side and at times 3-wide up to seven rows deep.
Joining Earnhardt Jr. in the top 5 for the 2014 Daytona 500 were: Denny Hamlin who closed out a spectacular Speedweeks in second, Brad Keselowski in third, Jeff Gordon in fourth, and Jimmie Johnson who overcome two wrecks leading up to the 500 in fifth.
Rounding out the top 10 in the Daytona 500 were Matt Kenseth in sixth, Ricky Stenhouse, Jr. in seventh and Greg Biffle would bring his No. 16 Ford home in eighth. Austin Dillon would come home ninth in his first Cup Series race in the iconic No. 3 for Richard Childress Racing, while Casey Mears would round out the top 10.
A couple of major contenders for the Daytona 500 win would see their hopes dashed early on as Martin Truex, Jr. would blow up just 30 laps into the race, relegating him to a 43rd-place finish in his debut for Furniture Row Racing. Crew chief Todd Berrier was already in Nashville for a test session before the race was even over. Kyle Busch, meanwhile would have a pit road violation just before halfway and would spend much of the race battling back from that mistake. Busch would eventually finish 19th after leading 19 laps.
Danica Patrick would also be bit by bad luck as she was caught up in a multi-car wreck on lap 145. Patrick would lead her second consecutive Daytona 500, but wouldn’t have the finish to show for it finishing 40th. Tony Stewart would encounter a frustrating evening as well, with a fuel pickup problem derailing his quest for his first Daytona 500 win. Stewart would finish 35th.
A look at the Daytona 500 by the numbers. There were 42 lead changes among 18 drivers, while seven cautions for 39 laps would slow the race pace to 145.290 MPH.
Next week, the Sprint Cup Series heads to the “diamond in the desert,” Phoenix International Raceway for The Profit on CNBC 500K. The Green flag is scheduled for 3:15pm EST.
Nationwide Series Post-Race Quotes: Drive4COPD 300
posted by Thomas Bowles
Tuesday February 25, 2014
Frontstretch Interviews – Courtesy Mike Neff
ELLIOTT SADLER – FINISHED 4th
Thoughts on the race?
It’s definitely a lot different racing than what we’re used to.
Comfortable with it?
Yeah, it’s just different. You’re worried about what you’re doing, but you’re also worried about what everyone else is doing and they’re not doing more than you’re doing. Physically pushing a guy is way better than just riding so you just gotta time it right and push it to the edge.
Happy to start the year with a top 5?
Yeah. Hell, that was the worst we ran all day, I think. I have no idea how they put the 3 car in front of us on that last restart. I hadn’t seen the 3 car hardly all day. When they put us from fifth to sixth, on the outside line, it just really boxed us in. I would have really restarted behind my teammate and given him a good push to the front. Anyways, it is what it is; we’ll take it and move on.
Looked like you were up front all day.
The guys did a good job. We had a fast race car. Great pit stops, just really proud of these guys. The car’s in one piece and we can take it to Talladega now. Great job by my guys. A lot of effort came into coming down here to Daytona and giving ourselves a shot to win. We had that chance to be up front and make some things happen. Fifth is not what we want, but we’ll take it and move on.
Bumping vs Pushing?
It’s way harder. You don’t want to lay on the guy in front of you, so it’s tough racing. A lot different than what we’re used to, ‘cause you gotta go. You gotta drag the brake too ‘cause you don’t want to hit the guys and you don’t want to stay on him. It’s a lot harder mentally than what we’ve done in the past.
Car was strong all day. Pushing vs. Bumping, is that harder to do than just getting on somebody and pushing them?
Yeah, it is a little bit. When you bump ‘em, you jar ‘em, it kinda jacks ‘em a little bit. It’s a little more abrupt, obviously. I thought it was OK there at the end. It was certainly fun and hopefully entertaining. But a little bit of a struggle in the early part of the race and the midpart of the race to see a good race. And that’s unfortunate for the fans. You can’t do that the whole race, you can’t tear up your stuff, knock your grill in, overheat your motor, all that stuff so there’s no sense in doing all that until you get down to the last lap. The 7 and the 6, they did a good job. Man, the 7 really held the 22 and I tight on the bottom. I was rubbing his door and hitting the apron at the same time, no room whatsoever. So it was good; wish we were the ones who could have won but a lot better now than what we were last year.
Going home in one piece makes it a lot better, right?
Yeah. My back feels good. My foot feels good. Past years here, I’ve been going home with pain so I’m alright.
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2014 Truck Series Post-Race Quotes: Daytona (Exclusives)
posted by Thomas Bowles
Saturday February 22, 2014
When you’re on the outside like that, how frustrating is it?
It’s so hard. Timothy Peters has won here. Kyle Busch has won everywhere. Ron Hornaday has been running Trucks forever, probably before I was even born. I was surrounded by veterans there, and like I told them I don’t have a rookie stripe but I’m a rookie. This is only my fourth Truck race ever, my fourth superspeedway race, and man, I figured out when the 17 got up in front of me, I pushed him. And as soon as I pushed him, he took off. And I went with him. And I just kept doing it, and before I knew it, he was leading. And I saw Ron in my mirror, backed up to him, and if it wasn’t for him, I don’t know what would have happened. I gotta thank him big time for that. That was a true teammate move right there. I really appreciate that. He just bounced off me and we got to the front. I tried my hardest to sidedraft Kyle. I was probably touching his door.
Top 5 in the No. 30 truck. This deal come together at the last minute, but you had a heck of a truck. Tell us about your night.
Yeah, I’ve got to thank Turner Scott Motorsports. The guys worked so hard on this Rheem Comfort Products Chevrolet. Exciting! Just got hung up on the outside and had to wait for my teammate there to catch up. And then he got to the bottom, so… I got the old 32 and started pushing ol’ Ryan to the front. So, it’s not bad. We’ll take it. You just don’t want to step over that boundary. You don’t know how far to push and shove. We bumped about six times down the straightaway without latching onto them. Hopefully, that was OK and we came home with a top 5.
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Auto Club Speedway gets a vicious rap from a gaggle of fans and media, including many writers on this website. And in defense of the Auto Club Speedway people, and the limited amount of fans that do attend races there, the speedway itself really doesn’t deserve all that.
ACS does have glaring flaws. The weeper problem made for a ridiculous race last February. Its location makes it difficult for North Carolina-based teams to make the trip, especially coming after the physical and mental exhaustion of the Daytona 500. No other venue so frequently has had to throw cautions for litter or even a falling traffic signal on the track. It’s easy to question why Fontana hosts two events every season when just looking at the attendance alone doesn’t justify it.
Without having taken away the Labor Day race from Darlington, Fontana might still be the brunt of a lot of criticism for these flaws, and rightly so, but I doubt the animosity would be near as severe as it is.
When Dale Earnhardt was still intimidating his way around the racetracks of NASCAR, he was featured in a Busch beer commercial showcasing Busch’s collectors-edition “Great Tracks of NASCAR” cans. (Imagine such a promotion today—it would likely include many tracks that are in NASCAR’s sights for losing a race.) In the ad he spoke about Darlington Raceway, saying “everything they tell you about Darlington is true and then some.” If that’s true, given what people already say about Darlington, it must be one hell of a track to race on.
The character of the Lady in Black isn’t often disputed. The driving is different. The shape is different. And the walls look different after a race. Darlington has hosted some of the classic races in NASCAR history, with a 2003 event showcasing what may have been the greatest finish ever.
To call the Darlington May race the Southern 500 now, while probably well-intentioned, is almost an insult, and a reminder that this wonderful racing venue lost its celebrated event to a characterless track in southern California. Like with Ebbets Field in Brooklyn, Darlington fans were heartbroken at the injustice of a major sport uprooting its circus and moving it to the Los Angeles area. In both cases those responsible will never be forgiven by some, which is understandable.
Ebbets Field and Darlington Raceway were abandoned, or semi-abandoned in Darlington’s case, for economic reasons. A South Carolina market that had been in a decline and whose population is today largely Myrtle Beach tourists simply couldn’t support two NASCAR races a season anymore. Of course it doesn’t help that the new track isn’t drawing flies either, and it appears that NASCAR spat on a 50-year tradition and alienated thousands of fans for nothing.
Since the departure of the Labor Day race from Darlington, Auto Club Speedway’s fall race will always represent either the brutal reality of economics in sports, or the greed of the France family, depending on your worldview. Rockingham also lost both of its races to inferior venues, as did North Wilkesboro. But when people think of NASCAR disregarding tradition, disrespecting the sport’s roots, or sucking all the character out of the sport with larger speedways that put too much space between racecars, the usurping of the Labor Day race by Auto Club Speedway will always be near the top of the list as NASCAR’s most egregious offense. On the surface economically it may have made sense, but as intangible as something like fan reaction may be, it shouldn’t have been difficult to expect NASCAR’s core audience to be outraged at the disregard for a long standing tradition. You would think they would have moved Darlington’s May race to California at first, and then gauge the reaction. (Or maybe put the CoT in the Nationwide Series first and ironed out the numerous kinks before moving it to Cup, but that’s for another article.) But they didn’t and so here we are.
All the same, it isn’t quite fair to suggest that the racing is worse at ACS than it is at any other intermediate speedway. There’s been a few good ones at Fontana just like there have been a few good ones at Michigan and Kansas. ACS is only a mile shorter than Daytona or Talladega, and teams can make the cars go as fast as they want at Fontana. Forgive me for saying it, but while Daytona and Talladega may have far more history and charisma than Fontana, this columnist will take the racing without the plates any day of the week.
Yes, they need to fix the cracks. And the traffic signal mounts. But just for the record, let’s not take it out on the Southern California fans that are out there or even on the folks that run Auto Club Speedway. It may be a cookie-cutter, but by definition that makes it just one out of many. As far as the racing goes, it isn’t Darlington and never will be, but neither is Michigan, Chicago, or Vegas. No speedway will ever match the Lady in Black for pure entertainment.
Fans who were justifiably incensed at the move of the Labor Day race may refuse to watch in protest. That’s fine. But inadvertently, at least in this columnist’s opinion, plenty of fans share a sentiment that the racing in Fontana is the worst in NASCAR, when in fact it is no better or worse than it is on any speedway most of the time. It’s not one of my favorite tracks, but the racing there isn’t any different to me than it is at Michigan. And by Fudd, at least they don’t use those blasted restrictor plates there.
NASCAR made a foolish decision based solely on numbers, one of many recent decisions that are far removed from what makes racing fans tick.
But it isn’t Auto Club Speedway’s fault.
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Didn’t Pocano also have a caution light fall off too? Where ever that happened, Fox went into a great piece about showing how much more air turbulance the CoT causes… which has resulted in stuff like lights falling off. So I wouldn’t use that as a big reason of why ACS sucks. Nor the weepers, almost every track has that problem too if they get major rain. Granted, putting a race in California a month before the rainy season is over isn’t a good idea. Rain here is really confined to certain months. It’s a rare storm that breaks the normal season. We’ve gone at least 6 months without rain right now and probably won’t have any for another month. So that is a big window to reschedule that first date in.
As someone who lives 30 minutes away from the track, I’ve probably paid a lot more attention to it than most.
The first several years of racing there I thought was great. Then it just seemed to “weather” in poorly and the racing went downhill. Then came the CoT and plates (ooh sorry, tapered spacers) for Nationwide, and the racing has really just gone to crap there.
I would really like to see one of its dates be given to Las Vegas. It’s only an extra 3 hours drive up the road and unlike Fontana, it is actually filled with hotels, that are cheap, and flights from every where in the country, that are also cheap. And also, it’s Vegas! So the fun just doesn’t start and stop at the track.
The fan expereince at ACS has also steadily declined over the years too. But that’s a story in itself.
ACS really needs to bulldoze the track and redo it if they want to fix the racing. Also, there is almost always a steady wind that blows across the track from the stands. So unless they move the stands, hot dog wrappers, etc., will always be a problem there.
But changing it from being the 2nd race of the year probably will never happen. Where do you think half the drivers are headed right after Daytona? To California to do their commercials for the year. Since the drivers are here, might as well bring their cars along too and have a race while your at it. NA$CAR at its finest.
I’ll always agree with the rest of the die-hard fans that trading Darlington for California on Labor Day was one of NASCAR’s biggest mistakes in recent years. But remember, ACS was not asking for a second date like Kansas or Las Vegas, or even one date like Kentucky. NASCAR made the decision to give the track a second date, so its not the track’s fault. And I’m happy to see Michigan get mentioned. It’s always seemed strange to me that California gets dumped on for having spread out parades, but yet Michigan is never mentioned for the same thing. They’re both almost identical. I dont understand.
Im guessing people dont rag on MIS as much because is has been around 30 years longer. Id also add it cant help that other 1.5 mile tracks that are similer keep showing up.
I’ll rag on MIS. I live 2 1/2 hours from the track, but won’t attend a race there…because the racing is so dull! I’ve driven 12 hours to Bristol for many years rather than go to MIS. I can see the equivilant of the MIS race watching northbound traffic on I -75 any Friday. And now Kansas, another yawner of a track, is going to get a 2nd race because they are going to build a casino? Yeah, that’s smart.
Yep! I am still as dumb as a “TURNIP”!
How? Glad you asked.
1st. we “congratulate” NA$CRAP for changing the starting times of some races!
Oh, yes, that is REALLY GOING TO IMPROVE THE RACING! RIGHT!
2nd., we congratulate NA$CRAP for doing a “double wide” re-start!
Oh, yes, that is REALLY GOING TO IMPROVE THE RACING! RIGHT!
So that it may make it easier on our lifestyles, quote: “and thanks to NASCAR for making this job a lot easier and allowing me to eat dinner after the race is over and not during it. Things like this make me believe there is hope.”
WOW! Now we can eat dinner in peace AFTER that idiotic NA$CRAP race is finished!
WOW! NA$CRAP is sure headed in the right direction!
TOKENISM does not make good racing!
Oh, and did you see where a “FRANCE” was arrested for drug possesion? And all he could tell the arresting officer was “WE OWN THIS TOWN”!
Gee, we didn’t know that now did we?
MMMM, come to think of it, wonder why his drug test results were never published?
California should have one race. The Labor Day weekend race should still be at Darlington. If NASCAR would just make those changes all the griping regarding California would go away. I don’t think most fans would mind one visit to California a year. I will note that the same could be said about Pocono and Michigan too, so don’t think I am picking on California. The only reason California is at the top of the list of “hated tracks” is because of the Darlington angle. Had Darlington not lost the traditional Southern 500 race on Labor Day Weekend fans might be picking on one of those other tracks that produce boring races 9 out of 10 times.
Carl said: “Im guessing people dont rag on MIS as much because is has been around 30 years longer.”
That is my guess too. There is a definite East-coast bias, as well as Michigan having been around forever and is one of the “classic” tracks. How come we dont hear about boring racing at Charlotte like we do at Chicago or Kansas? Is it the high banking, like at Texas and Atlanta?
“ACS is only a mile shorter than Daytona or Talladega”
Ermm, everyone does realize that ACS and MIS are TWO mile tracks, right? Only half a mile shorter than Daytona/‘dega. And thus also not quite the same as the rest of the 1.5 mile ovals.
Bad racing IS the track’s fault. Especially at ACS which has less banking (and less mid-pack racing) than even MIS.
Bill, I would gladly give up one of ACS’s dates if NASCAR is smart enough to give that date to Iowa. Judging by what we’ve seen there in ARCA, Trucks, and Nationwide, its an awesome track well deserving of a Cup date.
They need to blow that track up and put in another Richmond or Bristol type track.
Kalifornia is another open-wheel track…NOT a nascar track. BORING! And now it’s in the chase?!? What kind of “favors” is that girl out there providing for Brian?
Until changes are made I will NEVER watch that race.
Billie, which is better? California on Labor Day and Atlanta in the Chase, or vice versa? California isnt going anywhere for a while, so be happy that its no longer on Labor Day weekend. By the way, what other races dont you watch?
I’m watching the police in a low speed chase of a pickup on Fox news right now. It has more action and is more exciting than a “race” at California, and there is no booth crew to screw up the action and plug products.
Hey “billie”! Your:
MMMM, your of course assuming it is girls King Brian likes?
I guess anyway!
Kevin – Right on about Iowa. Get that place a Cup race already. Are you listening Nascar? Two people who actually attend races at Auto Club Speedway are all for ditching one of the races and giving it to Iowa. More short track racing! And less cookie cutter D-shaped or qual-oval tracks too while we’re at it. Let’s get some weird twists & turns out there, like they had at Trenton Speedway when it was kidney shaped. I love the strange dogleg out in Phoenix. And Darlington’s different turns make for awesome racing. As Gob Bluth would say ‘Come on!’
If you have to blame someone, blame Roger Penske. He built the track back in 1996 as a dual-purpose for both stock cars and open-wheel cars. Then he sold it to ISC after the open-wheel cars stopped racing there.
Please don’t get a Cup race at Iowa Speedway untill the C.O.T. is put out to pasture. It would take Rusty a half year to get the stank of that turd off his track.
The only race I sat down and watched this year was the Nationwide from Iowa Speedway, and it was a great race. I’m thinking of going to that race next year, unless Nascar in it’s infanite wisdom saddles them with the Car of Tomorrow.
Does anybody here actually LIKE NASCAR racing? SHEESH!
California is a different kind of race. The track is long and wide,so there is no reason for the cars to anywhere near each other. The race is more strategy than rooting and digging. the cars get strung out and it’s more about how smooth a driver is, and how well the car is set-up than it is about the driver’s will. I’ve always equated it to skating’s ‘school figures’, it’s more precise than exciting. You need to have both Bristol and Cal to see a team’s range, and I watch for them both to know how well a team runs.
Lets get more positive, people! all your griping gave us the 1.5 milers, so be careful what you wish for.
The complaining started AFTER the changes and addition of the 1.5 and 2.0 mile cookie cutter tracks. It was the lure of easy money and new fans that drove the powers to be to change the very heart and soul of Nascar into the lowest common denominator it is today.
MiK said it all when he in a round about way compared California to figure skating.
Bad Wolf, dead on. “Today’s Fans” just don’t seem to get why the older, core fans are so disgruntled.
One thing that I did not see in the article or feedback was the number of cookie cutter tracks, makes this type of racing boring to many fans, myself included. I don’t believe ACS races are any worse then say Kansas, Chicago or the others. To me it is more a lack of support by the people in So Cal.
wcfan, I think the first speedways were Charlotte, Atlanta, and Michigan. I feel like I’m missing one. Then came the cookie cutters in the 90’s such as Texas, California, Las Vegas, Chicago, Kansas, Miami, and Kentucky.
ACS did not ask for the second date. Why would that be necessary? NASCAR and ISC are of the same entity. A France is in control of both.
“The drivers love California because its wide, with two grooves, and they dont have to drive very hard to keep from wrecking each other.”
This in a nutshell is what is wrong with the racing there. These guys are making millions on top of millions so they damn well better be having to race hard. They earn a spot in the upper ranks because they are known for being hard and good drivers but then the organization gives them something that’s equivalent to pre-school to race on.
“California is a different kind of race. The track is long and wide,so there is no reason for the cars to anywhere near each other. The race is more strategy than rooting and digging. the cars get strung out and it’s more about how smooth a driver is, and how well the car is set-up than it is about the driver’s will.”
You just described F-1 racing. It only takes 5 or 10 minutes of viewing those events before I am channel searching again. Why would I tune into Cup racing for the same style of racing. And I sure as hell won’t spend my hard earned money to attend an event of this nature. If engine builders were still being recognized then maybe ACS might have some appeal. Now you just have Rousch powerplants against Hendrick powerplants…whoopee.
I’m someone who use to endure figure skating and snow skiing on Wide World of Sports just for a fifteen minute broadcast of Daytona or Darlington. I listen to the races when there was no TV coverage. I learned to walk around the perimeter of a track. Today…I may listen to a race if I’m in my truck riding somewhere. I definitely don’t go out of my way to watch it like I use too. Yeah, the racing is closer today but so was IROC and look where that is now. I know they got strung out back in the old day but back then those guys worked day and night on their own equipment and built their own engines so you were watching more than just a driver. If they didn’t do it all then they were right there beside them during the long nights. Now you hear drivers say that they try to stop by the shop two or three times a week. Not the same. The guys you see in the pits these days are hired guns and usually has nothing to do with the building of the car on the track. Back then, whoever turned a wrench on a car at the track also turned the same wrench in the shop.
If you want to see me at a race track then you best be at Orange County Speedway, South Boston Speedway, Ace Speedway, 311 Speedway, Concord Speedway or Martinsville Speedway (non-Cup weekends). I pay to watch them at those levels but once they hit Cup they get someone else’s money…not mine.
Kevin, first off have a good time at the track this weekend. The track you maybe are missing I believe is Texas World that was MIS sister track. My point was it is the number of cookie cutter races on cookie cutter tracks that turns myself along with many of other fans off. Many of the older pre cookie cutter tracks had there own style and configuration, even if they were basically the same size. Case in point Bristol, Martinsville, Nashville (fairgrounds), North Wilksbrough and old Richmond were all approx 1/2 mile tracks but each were different in lay-out and the racing was different. If every 1/2 mile track was the same I would be grumbling about that also, I enjoy watching a different race every weekend, not the same race on a different track. This is not a shot at ACS or any other track, only at the number of races at the cookie cutter tracks.
If any of the “newbies” EVER want to know why us “old-timers” continually rag on NA$CRAP these days, just watch the California “race” this weekend!
(and I still maintain that is is the CARS & the rules, NOT the tracks, that create the extremely poor racing these days!)
These tracks were designed and built to provide multiple racing lines, but the design & aerodynamics of the cars prevent this from happening.
I remember MANY exciting laps at Michigan, back in the day, 2, 3, 4 wide at times, maybe not all 43 cars on the lead lap, but who cares when you have a quality race going on between drivers THAT WANT TO WIN!
And now we have points racing! And now we have the POS!
THAT, my friends is what is causing the problems!
Frontstretch….all complaining, all the time.
So who watched the Nationwide race? See, ACS can put on a good show. That race was awesome! Too bad there were so few people in the stands to see it.
Boring racing, took the Labor Day event from Darlington, those are all good points; however, another reason I hate this track is all the Hollywood-esque attention they seem to give it. I could care less ‘bout who’s at the track (and this goes for ALL races, not just this one). You think some of the celebs are just trying to start making it ‘trendy’. We’re past that… as the kids’ say ‘That is SO 2005!’