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Matt McLaughlin's Thinkin' Out Loud: Spring Dover Race Recap

Matt McLaughlin · Monday June 1, 2009


The Key Moment: Coming up on two laps left to race, Jimmie Johnson powered around the outside of Tony Stewart to retake the lead.

In a Nutshell: Ever hear of a Cow-patty sandwich on whole wheat bread? The top and the bottom of the race weren’t bad… but everything in the middle was pretty tough to swallow.

Dramatic Moment: Those final ten laps watching Johnson storm back to the front were about as good as it gets.

What They’ll Be Talking About Around the Water Cooler This Week

The race is not always to the swift, nor the battle to the strong (Ecclesiastes)… but sometimes it is. Just don’t tell Kyle Busch that.

Cynics might guess that Rick Hendrick decided to fix Dale Earnhardt’s problems by repainting Jeff Gordon’s cars in AMP Energy green and giving Gordon the mutts of the litter at Dover.

You have to wonder if NASCAR hadn’t been so liberal throwing those debris cautions, Jimmie Johnson might not have lapped the field.

Doesn’t it seem that all of NASCAR’s severest penalties lately (drug use (Jeremy Mayfield), oversized engine (Carl Long), and toed out rear end (Robby Gordon)) all seem to be aimed at the small teams — not the major players with big dollar sponsors? I’m sure the top drivers and teams are all running squeaky clean programs this year. And I’m sure that Santa is going to bring me a Dodge Challenger RT and an Ultra-Glide for Christmas…

The implications and ramifications of Rick Hendrick’s decision to sack Tony Eury, Jr. as Dale Earnhardt, Jr.’s crew chief this week continue to be the big story. On a personal level, I feel the decision was long overdue and probably should have been made back in the DEI days. The relationship between a driver and crew chief is akin to marriage, and marriage isn’t an institution cousins should enter into unless you want the result to be six-fingered offspring or Brian France. I will say that I don’t admire the position that Brian Whitesell or Lance McGrew find themselves thrust into. It’s like being the first lieutenant off the landing craft in a beachfront invasion … your life expectancy is under a minute. Let’s face it; NASCAR and the networks need Junior to be winning races on a regular basis to restore the sport’s waning popularity. If it doesn’t work out with the new crew chief, it’s never going to be Earnhardt’s fault despite his forthright admissions this week that he’s part of the problem. You can replace crew chiefs dozens of times, nay dozens upon dozens of times, and it will never be Junior’s fault even if they find him passed out at the entrance of his Whiskey River eatery an hour before the race. The bottom line is that those crew chiefs can be replaced… but the sport’s Most Popular Driver can’t be. I continue to think that Rick Hendrick needs to find a way to beg, cajole, or buy Ray Evernham’s acceptance of a spot atop the No. 88 team’s pit box in order to make this experiment work.

Throughout my so-called writing career, I’ve made a conscious decision not to refer to individual races by their sponsored name. It’s the World 600, not the Coca-Cola 600; or the Phoenix Spring race, not the Subway 500 kilometers. I even had to go to the mat with the editors here at Frontstretch to keep that tradition alive. Well, this weekend’s official race title, “The Autism Speaks 400 Presented by Heluva Good! Sour Cream Dips and Cheese,” should make it obvious why I do that. Now that’s just silly. Can they even fit a title that long on the trophy?

There’s apparently a move in the works to adopt the system of double-file restarts (wherein the second place driver starts alongside the leader rather than behind him) in the next few weeks. I am excited by the idea, and think it will provide for better racing in the interim period between now and when NASCAR finally fixes or eliminates the New Car. But I’d add a codicil to the rule which I believe is already on the books, at least at the start of the race. The leader should have the choice to start on either the inside or the outside lane on any restart. At a lot of tracks, a driver on the inside line has a decided advantage over a driver on the outside lane where that leader traditionally restarts.

OK, game on. Jeremy Mayfield has filed a lawsuit against NASCAR specifically naming Brian France and Doctor Black and alleging grievous career harm. The suit in fact alleges “malicious” conduct on the part of both defendants in wishing to make an example of Mayfield to further the goals of NASCAR’s drug testing policy. (Which I find personally laudable.) In reading over the lawsuit’s statement of fact, I see a lot of merit in the case, especially when it comes to the method in which the test was conducted and the handling of the “backup B sample.” There’s also a lot of serious questions about how Mayfield was informed of the “failed” results and in comments made by NASCAR employees in the aftermath of this debacle. Once again, I see a lot of the typical NASCAR arrogance in their statements that amount to “it is as we say it is, because we say it is.” There’s a lot more evidence that Brian Zachary France shouldn’t be allowed to run a driveway lemonade stand much less a major race sanctioning body because nepotism isn’t a legitimate business model for succession. Well, friends and neighbors, this one is out of our hands now. The merits of the lawsuit won’t be decided in this column or on an internet message board; it will be decided in a court of law. Keep your hands inside the car, gentle readers — this is going to be a dark ride.

Related to the above, at least the issues are suddenly becoming clearer. The text of NASCAR’s vaunted drug testing policy is now readily available, and it is clearly ambiguous when it comes to over-the-counter and prescribed medications. It recognizes the legitimate use of prescribed drugs while noting that some of them (codeine in cough medicine is cited) can render a driver unfit to compete. I have no argument there. Again, reading between the lines it seems to be that the substance that triggered the positive result in Mayfield’s urine test is a maintenance drug that he takes for Adult Attention Deficit Disorder, a recognized and even somewhat prevalent medical condition. Drugs used to combat AADD contain tiny amounts of amphetamine, more colloquially known as speed. It seems counterintuitive that doctors would give a person who is already hyper speed to calm them down, but due to a history of the childhood version of this disease in my nephews I know this to be the case. The therapy works, and none of my nephews have excelled in track and field or Little League due to their medications. Oddly enough, I do recall AADD drugs being advertised during NASCAR broadcasts as well…

Jeff Burton emerged from last week’s “Town Hall” meetings with NASCAR on how to better the sport, saying that he feels the racing is better than ever and in fact better than the racing in what fans and scribes like to call ‘the good old days.’” I’m reminded of a quote by the inestimable Curtis Turner regarding drag racing. He compared drag racing to masturbation (not the term he used) saying it’s a lot of fun to do but not much fun to watch.

In these troubled times, it’s sometimes a struggle to see the positive side of life. Even the worst pessimists have to give thanks that this year’s aural assault that is the FOX portion of the NASCAR season is finally over. They say this is their ninth season in the sport, though sometimes it feels like this stupidity makes the 100 Year Wars seem like a food fight at a frat house. With FOX’s final signoff, hopefully Digger can finally retire and be inducted into the Animation Hall of Fame as the least loved drawn character ever, DW can continue his perpetual campaign for the position of Village Idiot of Franklin, TN, and Jeff Hammond can finally find his calling as the morning DJ of WKRP out of Helena, MT. Unfortunately, like the swine flu FOX’s season might have left us sickened — but it’s going to be back worse than ever next winter.

By the time you read this, it will be June 1st and sometime today General Motors will file for bankruptcy. What implications that will have for Chevy’s continued involvement in NASCAR racing will have to play out in the next few months. But while June 21st is officially the longest day of the year, I recall another date, June 6th, often referred to as the “Longest Day.” That was the date allied forces stormed ashore at Normandy Beach in a desperate and dangerous landing to preserve democracy for the free world. I have a personal stake in that invasion, having lost three relatives I never met to the slaughter. So what does any of this have to do with racing? We live in troubled economic times. Things are pretty bleak right now, but nothing nearly as bad as what Americans were dealing with one Sunday morning after the attack on Pearl Harbor and the massive damage that attack inflicted on our Pacific fleet. America was thrust into a World War on two fronts, and the bad guys had a decided advantage. Almost overnight GM, Ford, Chrysler and a host of other automakers no longer in business went from peacetime production to a wartime scenario wherein they built the Jeeps, trucks, planes, ships, and bombs that won World War II in support of the citizen soldiers that marched across Europe and went island to island in the Pacific to restore democracy to the free world in the face of tyrants. We as a nation have a debt that needs to be repaid right now. Either that, or the next time the crap hits the fan we’ll have to count on the Koreans and Japan to gear up and produce the materials to win the next World War. Frankly, that prospect makes me sick to the stomach…

When he’s winning, Kyle Busch can be a pretty loquacious guy; and when it comes to getting his digs in on Dale Earnhardt, Jr. who supplanted him at Hendrick Motorsports, the Vile One has a lot to say. But when he finishes a race poorly, suddenly Mr. Busch is in his golf cart and gone without a word spoken. Time to grow up and face the fact that sometimes you win and sometimes you lose, Mr. Busch. To stretch my allotted rock and roll analogies for the week, in the words of the incalculable Mr. Dylan: “Once upon a time you dressed so fine, did the bump and grind in your time, dinchu? People called hey, beware, you thought that they were all kiddinchu… how does it feel?”

The Hindenburg Award For Foul Fortune

Fourth generation driver Jeffrey Earnhardt failed to qualify for this weekend’s Nationwide race in a DEI entry. It couldn’t be his fault. Teresa Earnhardt is at fault! Fire his crew chief! Maybe Tony Eury, Jr. is looking for a new full-time gig? In case you’re wondering, Jeff is Kerry Earnhardt’s son. Kerry was the product of Dale Senior’s first marriage which ended in divorce. His mom later remarried, and his stepdad adopted Kerry. For most of his life, Kerry went by his stepdad’s last name up until the point that he decided to give racing a go. That Earnhardt last name opened a bunch of doors…

Kyle Busch dominated in Saturday’s races, but cut down tires allowed him to once more snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.

Somehow, Jeff Gordon found something to smile about this weekend. But after wrecking in qualifying, getting pinned two laps down during the race, and losing the point lead, we’re not quite sure what it could be.

It was bad enough a caution flag shortly after he pitted left Jeff Gordon a lap down, but losing another lap under green couldn’t have improved his mood much. Add in the qualifying wreck, and it was a pretty long weekend for Jeff Gordon and his fans. That pain in his back had apparently migrated south a few inches.

It had been a pretty good week for David Reutimann, with his win in the rain-delayed World 600 and a pole at Dover on Friday. He had a decent run going during the race, too, before spinning out late to avoid David Stremme’s stricken Dodge. As it stands written in the Book of Bruce: “Well, they came so far, and waited so long, just to reach the part of the dream, where everything goes wrong…”

Denny Hamlin watched his chances at a win go up in a cloud of smoke when a Goodyear blew so badly the tire manufacturer tried blaming Al Qaeda.

The “Seven Come Fore Eleven” Award For Fine Fortune

Jimmie Johnson fought electrical problems all afternoon, but came away with the victory at Dover anyway.

A pit road collision with Kyle Busch could easily have ended Carl Edwards’ day, but he drove on to a seventh place finish.

It was another good day for Stewart-Haas Racing, with Tony taking over the points lead by finishing second and Ryan Newman posting another top 10 finish.

After a trying weekend of wet weather at Charlotte and the truck race being rain-delayed on Friday, Mother Nature finally showed her benevolent side with spectacular weather on Saturday and Sunday. WPVI’s weather witch must have accidentally locked herself in the basement.

After the disaster at Charlotte, Dale Earnhardt, Jr. must have been pretty well satisfied with a twelfth place finish on the lead lap. You have to learn to walk before you run…

Worth Noting

  • Jimmie Johnson earned just his second top 10 finish in the last five Cup points races. But the winner’s check might finally allow him to purchase medication to combat the fungal growth that has afflicted his face and scalp as of late. Some guys — Jerry Garcia, ZZ Top, and Bruce Springsteen come to mind — look good with a beard. Other guys… well, not so much.
  • Tony Stewart (second) now has top 5 finishes in six of the last eight Cup points races. Pass the horseradish; these crow sandwiches are getting pretty gamy.
  • Greg Biffle (third) enjoyed his best finish since he also finished third at Texas.
  • Matt Kenseth (fourth) has top 10 finishes in the last three Cup points races.
  • Kurt Busch (fifth) earned a top 10 finish for the first time since Talladega. No wonder his parents love Kyle more.
  • Ryan Newman (eighth) has now strung together five straight top 10 finishes. As the Boss might add, “man, the dope is there’s still hope.”
  • Casey Mears’ ninth place finish matches his best result of the 2009 Cup season and his tenure with Richard Childress Racing.
  • Mark Martin (tenth) now has top 10 finishes in seven of the last nine points-paying Cup races. Shine on you, crazy diamond…
  • Dale Earnhardt, Jr. (12th) finished within the top 20 for the first time in four races. And Darrell Waltrip left Dover singing, “But I’ll still sing you love songs, written in the letters of your name, and brave the storms to come, ‘cause it surely looks like rain…”
  • Jeff Gordon (26th) has managed just one top 5 finish since his win at Texas in what seems like billions and billions of years ago.
  • Joey Logano in 15th was the top finishing rookie of the race, but most importantly I’ve finally been able to recall why Logano looks so familiar. I defy anyone to watch a rerun of that ultimate camp Batman series of the 1960s, watch Caesar Romero’s classic Joker character and not think there’s a striking resemblance between the Joker and Logano.
  • The top 10 finishers at Dover drove five Chevys, three Fords, and a pair of Dodges. The top finishing Toyota pilot was the Joker… err, Joey Logano.

What’s the Points?

Tony Stewart assumes the points lead and has a 46-point gap on former top dog Jeff Gordon, who fell to second.

Jimmie Johnson’s win helped him wrest third spot from Kurt Busch, who now finds himself fourth in the standings, a still manageable 91 points out of the lead.

Ryan Newman had a good points day, bobbing up two spots to fifth. Denny Hamlin had a poor points day, submerging two spots to seventh. Matt Kenseth and Greg Biffle each rose a spot in the standings to find themselves eighth and ninth in that tally right now. They displaced Jeff Burton, who fell two spots to tenth. Carl Edwards and Mark Martin round out the final two spots in the Chase as of now, while thirteenth place David Reutimann is 31 points outside one of those vaunted top 12 points positions.

Halfway through this year’s regular season, the point standings continue to be dominated by the multi-car giants. Rick Hendrick and Jack Roush each have three drivers in the top 12 in points. Both Stewart-Haas drivers, a satellite team for Hendrick, are also in the top 12. Joe Gibbs also has two drivers in it, while the remaining spots belong to Roger Penske’s Kurt Busch and Richard Childress’ Jeff Burton.

Dale Earnhardt Jr. is now eighteenth in the standings, a daunting 215 points out of the top 12. But as Kenny Mayne might remind us, he remains popular. Tony Eury, Jr. … well, not so much.

Overall Rating (On a scale of one to six beer cans, with one being a stinker and a six pack an instant classic) — The final laps of the race were worth a six pack, but enduring the middle 300 laps of the race lowers the event’s overall average to three cans of Natty Bo…a curse Baltimore has foisted on beer drinkers since about the Bronze Age.

Next Up: Cue up the Rod Sterling prologue, because the circuit enters the Twilight Zone in the infamous Pennsylvania Triangle — where a lot of good cars enter but never come back.

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06/01/2009 04:56 AM

Matt, never would i thought i’d be reading an article on NASCAR and stumble across the word “masturbation”, yet when i did i laughed like a grade schooler

i blame the time (5am, est)

06/01/2009 05:43 AM

Let the rejoicing begin . FOX is gone !!!!
Not for good i’m sorry to say . But now we can safely turn the sound back up . And better yet , the pictures on our tv screen will now consist of the actual racing , not the Snoko logo and the directors favorite teams .

As for Kyle Busch , if it weren’t for bad luck … The guy drives the wheels of of a race car , dominates the races , and then has some stupid problem keeping him from winning . How many races has he led this year only to have a car problem drop him out of the running ? I really don’t have a problem with a driver walking away instead of doing interviews . I watched the race , i saw what happened , i don’t don’t need to hear a sound byte manufactured by the interviewer to hopefully stir up controversy . When the driver is angry , disapointed , frustrated , or all of the above , leave him alone . The choice of whether or not to do an interview should be left entirely to the driver .

The story of the Dover race was Stewart Haas . Tony fighting for the win , both cars in the top five , an incredible feat for any team , much less a new one .

06/01/2009 06:12 AM

There was one high point in the pre race show . We got to see DW with what appeared to be pigeon poop on his nose during the Homestead nonsense . Now thats a perfect picture to remember him by .

Stu Gatz
06/01/2009 07:31 AM

Matt, Another well written article, to bad NA$CAR won’t read it or care.
And thank God, Fox is gone for the rest of the season
…. After NA$CAR Fixes the Carp of Tomorrow maybe they can address the Payola of sponsor dollars to Network Broadcasters, so the fans can hear and see about all of the drivers not just the ones who’s sponsors line the announcers’ pockets with money and other goodies.
Keep up the good work.

06/01/2009 07:55 AM

Hey Matt! So funny!

Yep, NA$CRAP’S “directive” to the media on how to “describe” those “inferior race tire failures”, has done it’s job very well!

Your comment “Kyle Busch dominated in Saturday’s races but cut down tires allowed him to once more snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.”

Are you yet another NA$CRAP schill? (boy that’s an admitted low blow, sorry)

“cut down tires”??

How about telling it like it is?


Would be more like it, and glossing over the multitude of “cut down tires” on Sunday cost at least two drivers a good finish!

And a competition yellow because NA$CRAP/GOODYEAR did not trust the tires on the cars?


(from GOODYEAR at least)

Just like calling it like it is!

Can’t wait until INDY!

And as NA$CRAP dictates, just keep repeating “cut down tires”, “cut down tires”, and pretty soon it is in everyones vocabulary!

06/01/2009 07:58 AM

I love how the press decided that Kyle Busch was way out of line in his Junior comments. Makes one wonder why they can’t stop talking about it. I know that’s not what you were saying Matt, but what’s really out of line? Why was Kyle even asked about it other than to get something for TV?

Carl D.
06/01/2009 08:04 AM

So Jeff Burton says the racing today is “better than ever”? You know, I remember watching an episode of Glenn Beck’s former show on CNN when he had Burton on as a guest. During the show, Burton said that he had plans to enter politics when his racing days were over. Well, I’m convinced he’s a natural for it. No one but a politician could lie that easily to the public.

06/01/2009 08:11 AM

Am the only one who is a bit underwhelmed by all the talk about Tony being the first owner -driver to be in the points lead since ’92?

Great driver, and maybe a good owner, but really, comparing Stewart Hass to somebody like Ricky Rudd or Alan Kulwicki’s situations is really disingenous.

Tony simply bought into an existing team and essentially became the 5th & 6th Hendrick outfits on the circuit.

That being said, I was still rooting for him in those final laps yesterday.

06/01/2009 08:19 AM

Thank goodness FOX is gone. I can ignore Digger, but those Waltrip brothers are so bad they really get under my skin. Thankfully I can MUTE them, but us fans should not have to mute that kind of stupidity!!I can’t believe FOX cannot see this , it’s obvious, and make the changes for us poor fans.

06/01/2009 08:27 AM

Hey, Matt,
Another great post. I heartily support your stubborn refusal to play the (insert sponsor’s name here) 500 name game! It’ll always be the World 600, Pocono (or Pennsylvania) 500, Brickyard 400, etc. as far as I’m concerned. What was it Brian Farce was saying about “traditions”? I’m a Jeff Burton fan, but I agree with your opinion that the racing may seem good to someone on the track, but definitely not on the tube. (the Curtis Turner quote was quite fitting: risque, yes, but funny still). Thanx for the update on the Jeremy Mayfield saga. While not necessarily a Mayfield fan, I can’t help but agree that NA$CAR seems to come down pretty darn hard on the little guys. And maybe one of the problems and causes for the sagging popularity of the sport has to do with the fact that, like it or not, America tends to root for the underdog. And the way the sanctioning body has been pummeling those same underdogs lately, it doesn’t surprise me that fans are tuning out. Does Brain France think that people will tune in if it’s only high-dollar big-sponsor cars left on the track? (Answer: he doesn’t care as long as he gets his cut of those big $$$)
One question I have: (Don’t get me wrong here – I’m not bashing Jeff Gordon; my wife is a big Gordon fan) We can’t figure out why the 24 car was first in line of the lapped cars on the last few restarts when he was two laps down and many other cars were only one lap off the pace. Can you ‘splain that one to us?

Carl D.
06/01/2009 08:38 AM


I also noticed Jeff Gordon restarting ahead of cars only one lap down. I too would like an explanation of that.

06/01/2009 10:27 AM

It happens every week, you just noticed because it was the 24. Most often we don’t know the status of the lapped cars.

06/01/2009 10:29 AM

Scott Speed/Red Bull, Big Money on the outside looking in is one reason for the seemingly large fines for the smaller teams. Oldsmo Bill, I believe in the laps down lane it does not matter if you are only one or numerous laps down it is the first car out of the pits. As for Mayfield, nascar has implied this was with a recreational drug that he was abusing, if it was for a prescription drug and within “limits” I believe nascar may have a big problem. Is Nascar saying that Jeff Gordan used no prescription pain med’s during or after his back procedure after Darlington (not picking on Jeff).

Jeff Meyer
06/01/2009 10:33 AM

The argument that we need to ‘repay the debt’ for what GM, Chrysler and Ford (etal)did during WWII is lame.
We the taxpayer ARE repaying their debt now! What should we do? Just GIVE them billions and billions and say here ya go boys, have fun? ANY business that loses billions in a yr NEEDS to be restructured or defunct, don’t ya think? Tuff doo doo if they can’t spend millions on nascar in the future. ‘Win on Sunday, sell on Monday’ became passe when the chrome bumpers came off the cars in nascar anyway.
There were hundreds of OTHER now defunct business that put just as much into the war effort as the big 3, where is their sympathy?
I am sick to death of hearing ‘we owe them a debt’. We ARE now PAYING their DEBT! Let the unions bail them out! They are more responsible for them being in the state they are as anyone!

JMO of course!

06/01/2009 11:46 AM

All I can say about GM and bail outs is: sooner or later China or some other country is going to start a war with us and our ability to manufacture needed war goods is down the drain! Whom to blame? Corporate incompetent leaders and American people buying foreign products. And it seems to me that ANY company too big to fail, should never have been allowed to get that big!!

Kevin in SoCal
06/01/2009 12:47 PM

WCfan has it right. The lap down cars have their own race off pit road, and whoever exits the pits first gets to line up first in the inside lane. Ken Schrader mentioned that on Inside Nextel Cup a few years ago.

06/01/2009 12:49 PM

That God Fox is done, but now we move on to the lap by lap reminders or the next episode of The Closer and Saving Grace, and the same commercials for those shows running at least twice during every commercial break. Lather, Rinse, Repeat.<sigh>

TNT…We Know Redundancy!

06/01/2009 01:05 PM

Dood!? Natty Boh is the shit! How you gonna knock BMore for one of the greatest brews ever made!? You must be a Beast fan…

06/01/2009 01:52 PM

“General Motors will file for bankruptcy. “

They could have done this last year without taking BILLIONS of taxpayers money.

Good ‘ole GM and apple pie huh?

GM and congress just did a MAJOR “screw you” to America. Thanks.

Glad to be driving my Tundra to work today.

06/01/2009 02:29 PM

Did anyone notice that, even with those HUGE banners like the Sunoco ones on either ends of the grandstands taking up empty seats, there was still a lot of leg room at Dover.

Kevin in SoCal
06/01/2009 03:45 PM

People buying Toyotas are (one of the many) the reason GM and Chrysler have to file bankrupty, and why Toyota is racing in NASCAR. That, and the unions demanding more and giving back less, and the piss-poor management. Etc, etc.

06/01/2009 06:53 PM

“The relationship between a driver and crew chief is akin to marriage, and marriage isn’t an institution cousins should enter into unless you want the result to be six-fingered offspring or Brian France.”


06/01/2009 07:03 PM

“People buying Toyotas are (one of the many) the reason GM and Chrysler have to file bankrupty”

HA! Now THAT’S funny!

“there was still a lot of leg room at Dover.”

Oh, man did it look BAD on TV. Hello? Uh…Nascar?

06/01/2009 09:39 PM

I’ve been to the past five Dover races (2 a year since ’07) and man, the stands were empty yesterday! I was lucky enough to get a skybox ticket from one of my boss’s clients. You could have sat anywhere you wanted in turn 3. Even with half the seats covered in that turn, there were still a ton of empty seats.

06/01/2009 10:51 PM

The Unions are finally getting the fruit of their “You owe me more” attitude.
One more example of the greed that got us all in this mess. The “Big Three” have been asking for concessions for years with no luck. And you also can’t compete turning out junk. New Chevy truck, with a $35,000 tag, is as ugly and cheap as a ’75 Camaro. Funny how I could buy that same rig for months now at $19,500. Again, a fine example of the greed.
Don’t feel one bit sorry for the suits or the workers. But now they say I have to pay their wages with my tax dollars. P!SS OFF!

06/02/2009 03:23 PM

Has Tony really bought into Haas or did he simply lend his name. I was under the impression that he was a de facto owner and not the one writing the checks.