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Matt McLaughlin's Thinkin' Out Loud: Dover Spring Race Recap

Matt McLaughlin · Monday May 17, 2010

 

The Key Moment: Jimmie Johnson had a dominant car, but a rare unforced error by the four time champ (speeding on pit road) handed the win to Kyle Busch.

In a Nutshell: Once Johnson was penalized Kyle Busch put an old fashioned butt-whooping on the field.

Dramatic Moment: There were damn few of them, huh?

For one brief period, the Nos. 18 and 48 cars ran each other hard around lap 350.

What They’ll Be Talking About Around the Water Cooler This Week

Boring. There’s no other way to describe Sunday’s race. But I’m glad NASCAR didn’t toss another unnecessary debris caution there at the end to spice things up. That’s a good first step to restoring some credibility to the organization.

For those of you who experienced the race at your computer, while sitting in your leather office chairs and listening to the pit crew or watching your favorite racers, you probably had a better, personalized experience than just watching the race on TV.

Would Johnson have been able to beat Busch minus the speeding penalty? We’ll never know but my suspicion is the 48 car and driver had the advantage. It’s pretty hard to attribute this loss for Johnson to the new rear spoiler.

Jimmie Johnson may have dominated Sunday’s Autism Speaks 400, but it was Kyle Busch who visited victory lane for the second time in three races.

Dover could be considered the local Cup track here at Eyesore Acres. As such my neighbors, friends, acquaintances, and other locals, former and current race fans, could have planted their butts in some of those numerous empty seats this weekend with the weather having been so nice Saturday and Sunday. When I talk to folks the main reason they’ve never gone there or will never go back is traffic which is Biblical after the Cup race. Dover track management really needs to strike a deal with DelDot to pay them some money and have them leave the tollgate heading north away from the track left open for a couple hours after the race. And maybe a few words with the Delaware State police might help as well. Let’s just say that I’m certain Jimmie Johnson and A.J. Allmendinger weren’t the only poor souls nailed for speeding Sunday. The DSP takes the occasion of Cup race weekends to saturate the route from Philly with radar traps.

I could get used to these Cup races ending before 5 ET while there’s still several hours of daylight left.

NASCAR famously said prior to this season that they were going to “let boys be boys” to return a little friction to the racing. But after the Dover race are they going to let “Bowyer” be “boys?” Bowyer got turned by Denny Hamlin on a late restart when his car didn’t come back up to speed. He headed to pit road for repairs then returned to the track to purposely take out Hamlin, who was running second, under caution which is pretty low-rent. Kudos to Hamlin for being incredibly gracious after the incident but jeers to ABC/ESPN for missing the whole incident unfold live.

Eraser-gate Part Duex? Remember the uproar following FOX’s initial broadcast of Cup qualifying in 2001 when they electronically removed the sponsor logos of firms not advertising during the race from their graphics? It seemed peculiar to me that during SPEED’s broadcast of Friday qualifying there were no Bud (or any other logos) on the uniform of outside pole-sitter Kasey Kahne. What’s up with that?

A minor point but one that irritates me to no end during truck races….Aaron’s does not give the first driver a lap or more down a lap back. NASCAR does. The day we start allowing corporate sponsors to give any driver a competitive advantage is the day I quit watching.

A few weeks back I wrote that I’d love to see drivers attempting the Memorial Day weekend double at Indy and Charlotte again. Apparently Speedway Motorsports chairman Bruton Smith loves that idea even more. He really, really, loves it to the extent he’s willing to post a twenty million dollar bounty for any driver able to win both races. Even in today’s high buck world of racing, twenty mill is some serious coin, two thirds of what it costs to sponsor a top notch Cup team for the entire season. According to Smith, Indy officials are willing to accommodate the idea by starting the 500 at 11 AM ET. Something tells me this is going to be a big story next May. Remember the boost in interest Bill Elliott gave the sport winning a million bucks at Darlington in 1985 courtesy of Winston? Mr. Stewart, are you up for the challenge?

News broke this week that Brian Vickers wouldn’t be driving the Red Bull car this weekend due to a medical condition later diagnosed as blood clots in his legs and lungs. The scary part of that diagnosis is that one of those clots could have broken free and caused Vickers a heart attack or stroke at such a young age. Unfortunately in my aging social circle I’ve had way too much experience with friends and family members facing similar challenges. Treatment protocol usually involves Coumadin or other similar blood thinners which dissolve the clots. But blood thinners have frightening side effects I have witnessed first hand. Even a simple stumble or incidental contact can cause massive bruising. Patients have to be monitored bi-weekly or even more frequently to make sure the drugs haven’t thinned the blood to a dangerous degree. Obviously for a race car driver who might be involved in a wreck there are serious and even life-threatening consequences from a relatively minor incident. It takes six months for the human body to fully dispose of Coumadin after an initial dose. At 26, Vickers needs to consider he is still a young man with a lot of great years ahead of him in his career. Even in the dog eat dog world of Cup racing where losing a ride can torpedo a young man’s career, right now Vickers, his team, friends and NASCAR if forced to intervene need to put his long term well-being first. Oh, and for the record…

I received some unexpected collateral damage in my email box this week after a column I wrote suggesting who I’d like to see inducted next year into the NASCAR Hall of Fame. Certainly no disrespect was meant towards Jimmie Johnson or Jeff Gordon. They have compiled stats to date that certainly ensure their future inclusion into the Hall, and I respect the hell out of what each of them has accomplished. Nor, certainly, did I mean to diminish what Bill Elliott has done during his career. Elliott was my favorite Cup driver after Richard Petty’s fortunes waned and his 1985 season alone will certainly cement his inclusion in the Hall someday. But folks, these are active drivers (though Elliott drives a very limited schedule.) The story of their future successes remains to be written. Nobody watches half a movie and decides the start is so good it deserves Oscar nomination when the ending might be so much better. I’d like to see the Hall adopt an open rule that no driver can even be considered until five years after he’s driven his last race. God willing Gordon, Johnson, Elliott and other current stars in the sport will be able to attend their inductions live and in person grinning ear to ear unlike the late Dale Earnhardt.

Another second generation driver in the wings? Chase Elliott, son of 1988 Cup champion Bill Elliott, won at Rockingham in the Sunoco National Tour (Basically the old ASA series) event. Making the victory that much more remarkable is the fact Chase was competing in his first ever race on a track longer than a half mile. Maybe this time Ford can find a way to keep a rising young talent from defecting to GM or Dodge?

In a story related to the above, Brandon Mc (or is that “Mac”? ) Reynolds won the companion UARA Stars 75 event at Rockingham this weekend. Brandon is of course son of FOX broadcaster and former Cup crew chief Larry McReynolds. They’re racing at Rockingham again. It’s all good.

Michael Waltrip incessantly plugs on-line tire retailer “Tire Monkey” during truck races and SPEED programming where he’s a panelist. Tire Monkey now decides to back one of Waltrip’s , the race owner not the broadcaster, teams. Anyone else seeing a conflict of interest here? Anyone want to bet that Mario Gosselin’s truck team is out a sponsor next? Tires aren’t the only monkey business going on here.

The Hindenburg Award For Foul Fortune

It’s not often you’ll see Johnson give away a race win but it seems he is human after all.

A.J. Allmendinger ran as high as second but a botched pit stop and a pit road speeding penalty ended his chances at a top 5 finish.

Kasey Kahne ran up front early but a broken shifter torpedoed his day. A broken shifter? I’d thought I’d broken every part possible in a car but I’ve never managed that.

Clint Bowyer exited the pits with the jack still beneath his car. Kind of hard to slip that one by the officials.

The 88 car that ran at Dover probably has a date with the crusher back at Mooresville. That dog just wouldn’t hunt. Unexplained steering issues just prolonged the agony.

Chip Ganassi teammates Juan Pablo Montoya and Jamie McMurray both broke panhard bar mounts within three laps of each other.

Marcos Ambrose and Sam Hornish both got to experience first hand why the proper term is “SAFER barriers” not “Soft Walls” after each slugged the wall a ton not once but twice.

The “Seven Come Fore Eleven” Award For Fine Fortune

Kyle Busch led nearly 500 laps in this weekend’s three Dover races, won two of them and would have won the truck race as well if not for a lack of fuel. He also had to overcome early radio problems on Sunday that left him unable to hear his spotter at one of the circuit’s most treacherous tracks.

Points leader Kevin Harvick had to overcome a 30th place qualifying run to claw his way back to a seventh place finish. As such he leaves Dover still leading the points.

Aric Almirola stepped in a heaping, steaming pile of dog stuff early in the Dover truck race, blowing a tire and losing two laps in the pits. Using both the Lucky Dog and wave-around rules, Almirola was able to get back on the lead lap and that’s when things got bizarre. Outside pole-sitter Elliott Sadler in the owners’ points leading KHI truck blew a tire and hit the wall. Kyle Busch, who had led more than 170 laps in the event, ran out of gas under caution. Ron Hornaday and Johnny Sauter couldn’t get back up to speed. Almirola was probably as surprised as anyone watching to win the race.

Jack Roush had to enjoy watching three of his drivers post top 10 finishes in the same event after the way this season has started for his organization.

Worth Noting

  • Matt Kenseth’s third place finish was the best result scored by any Ford driver since Atlanta, where Kenseth finished second.
  • Kyle Busch scored his sixth consecutive top 10 finish on Sunday.
  • Jeff Burton’s second place finish was his best result of 2010.
  • Matt Kenseth (third) scored his first top 5 result since Bristol.
  • David Ruetimann’s fifth place finish matches his best of the year. The 00 team also finished fifth in the Daytona 500.
  • Greg Biffle (sixth) also enjoyed his best result since Bristol.
  • Tony Stewart (ninth) managed his first top 10 result since Bristol.
  • Joey Logano’s tenth place finish ends a skid of four straight races without a top 10 result.
  • Mark Martin (fifteenth) has now gone three straight races without a top 10 result.
  • Jimmie Johnson is averaging around a 26th place finish in his last four Cup outings.
  • Dale Earnhardt Jr. missed a top 10 result for the fourth straight Cup race. You know “Changes” isn’t just a David Bowie song.
  • The top 10 at Dover drove four Toyotas, three Chevys and three Fords. Brad Keselowski’s eighteenth place finish was the best for a Dodge.
  • Two team owner’s, Rick Hendrick and Joe Gibbs, have combined to win eight of this season’s twelve Cup races. In the Hendrick camp only Jimmie Johnson has rung the bell this year.

What’s the Points?

As noted above, Kevin Harvick leaves Dover stilling leading the points. His second win of the season moves Kyle Busch up a spot to second in the standings, 69 points out of the lead.

Matt Kenseth moved up two spots to third in the standings.

The Wonder-Bread Twins, Johnson and Gordon, each lost two spots in the standings. They are now fourth and sixth respectively.

Denny Hamlin advanced another spot in the standings to fifth.

Jeff Burton and Kurt Busch swapped eighth spot with Burton now having the advantage. Carl Edwards wrested tenth spot from Mark Martin.

Martin Truex advanced a spot and took over the coveted twelfth points position.

Outside looking in, Ryan Newman advanced a spot to thirteenth in the standings and is just 30 points out of the top 12. Tony Stewart moved up four spots to fourteenth and is just seven points behind Newman.

Dale Earnhardt dropped four spots to sixteenth in the standings.

Overall Rating (On a scale of one to six beer cans with one being a stinker and a six pack an instant classic) We’ll give this one a single can of warm generic stuff. Dover might be my home track but I’ll call a clinker a clinker. Dover without drama? Strange days indeed.

Next Up: It’s off to Charlotte for the All-Star race, an increasingly silly event that really ought to be run on the Saturday night before the 600 to allow a track like Rockingham to rejoin the schedule.

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DansMom
05/17/2010 06:23 AM
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KUDOS to Fox for stellar coverage of a so-so race.

It was really interesting to see the drama unfold in the last 30 laps of Sundays race. I’m sure glad I didn’t “tune out” or “change the channell” [like all the die-hards on this website do] when Jimmie Johson dominated the first 3/4ths of the race. Too bad it was a terrible finish, a debris caution and a few GWCs would have “bamn” kicked things up a notch!

Anyone else notice how well attended the Dover race was? That’s what happens when they race at tracks that have casinos (and tourism) and not in the sticks of NoOneCaresAlina.

I for one can’t wait to move on to Charlotte and get away from these “doughnut-hole” tracks [martinsville, richmond, dover] and get to a place where they can finally run OVER 110 mph! If I wanted to watch a wad of cars “race” at 65 mph I’d grab a chair and sit at my local overpass on a Friday afternoon. For free no less!

And thank GOD for next weeks All Star Race, the TRUE legends of the sport are featured (minus Danica, who’ll I’ll be pulling for her to win the Indy 500)

Mongo
05/17/2010 07:40 AM
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DansMom, what race were you watching? Did you not see the sections of seats that were empty?

janice
05/17/2010 08:43 AM
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maybe my tv showed different track view. bunches of empty sections of seats at dover, where advertising banners were stretched. dover sold ticket from turn 4 to 2. i guess they figured the wouldn’t sell out so why have more areas to clean up after the race.

was shocked to hear about brian vickers. hope he gets well soon, and please do not return to track too quickly.

i got a nice 1.5 hr nap in during the race.

Jed
05/17/2010 09:20 AM
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DansMom is one of those much bally-hooed “new fans” to the sport, Mongo. You just have to overlook her. The G-W-C finish rule was questionable in my opinion when it was instituted. Now that they’ve upped it to three attempts if necessary it’s just insulting…..and dumb.
All they’ve done is moved racing closer to the stick and ball mentality where you play(run) 95% of the game (race) only to play(race for) for the win in the last two minutes(laps). It’s contrived racing just like the Chase is a contrived championship….all put in place to attract “new” fans like DansMom. How’s that working out for NASCAR I wonder? Judging by the number of empty seats at the tracks and the ho-hum racing, I’d say, “Not Too Good” with a tip of the hat to Hoyt. Let the races end at the advertised distance as they’re intended, even if it means we see races end under caution. Half the time G-W-C results in a finish under caution anyway with a bunch of wrecked race cars the teams have to spend money to repair.

Bill B
05/17/2010 10:04 AM
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I was at the race yesterday. My appraisal was that it was boring so I’m glad that Matt came to the same conclusion. I’d say the seats were 60% full at most. Matt, have you actually talked to anyone about the traffic issues? From what I have experienced the last couple of years the traffic issues have diminished proportionately with the crowd size. I had no problems with the traffic and zoomed home in record time. Didn’t see any speed traps or sobriety check-points. Of course I was going to Baltimore not Philly so maybe the cops heading north are prickier.
I also applaud NASCAR for not finding a way to cause a GWC finish. Sure it might have produced an exciting finish but if I wanted scripted excitement I’d go to a movie instead of a sporting event.

Jeremy
05/17/2010 10:34 AM
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Corporate sponsors are already giving drivers competitive advantage, and you need to look no further than Kevin Conway. He can drive like he’s dragging a giant anchor attached to the back of his car every race and fall out of the top-35 as many times as he wants to, but no! His performance-blind buddies up at Extenze would always be there to bail him out and swap him into another FRM ride so he won’t have to ever qualify on time. If that doesn’t put him at an unfair competitive advantage over his poor, gracious teammate David Gilliland, I don’t know what does…

Michael
05/17/2010 10:38 AM
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Waltrips shilling for Tire Monkey is no different than Mike Joy shilling for Sunoco . Guess who owns a Sunoco race fuel dealership in the Northeast ?
And the announcers aren’t the least bit embarrassed by their lack of integrity . Anytime you hear an announcer gushing about a product , you can be pretty sure he gets a check from that company . Which means of course , if an announcer doesn’t get paid by a company ( or even a race team ) under the table , then the company or team is going to get ignored by the booth . Some real ethics in the tv broadcasts each week .

tim
05/17/2010 10:40 AM
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this week instead of watching the cup race me a couple buddies went to winchester speedway in Ind.They had three classes of cars there the front wheel drives ,street stocks which put on one hell of show and the cra late models which was a good show too.Ross Kenseth ended up winning that Now on to the cup race it just wasnt the normal dover good ending to the truck.The nationwide race and cup race were soso. Matt another great article dansmom i dont know when you started following nascar but the sport was built around all these little so called doughnut-hole tracks.A couple weeks ago you said you were done posting on Matts column now to me it just seems like you are posting shit to annoy people so maybe you stick to your word and go away

laidback racing
05/17/2010 10:41 AM
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dansmom….what are you smoking? It is affecting your vision! The turn 3 grandstands were closed and 2 other sections had advertising banners over them…except for the start/finish line area the empty seats were blanantly obvious…and I agree with matt..what a snoozer. After halfway I gave up and started cooking the food for the all star race and packing the RV, just coming in for the restarts

Bad Wolf
05/17/2010 10:42 AM
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I get the feeling Dans Mom is a paid shill for Nascar who’s job is to get on the message boards and beat the drums for Nascar. It would not surprise me if she posts fron an office in Daytona.

Darren
05/17/2010 10:47 AM
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I’ll bet theres a new job opening at NASCAR this morning .” Wanted , pit road speed observer , no experience needed , but must be able to remember who DOES NOT GET CLOCKED . Will be tested on your ability to keep certain teams and NASCAR happy “ .

jg
05/17/2010 11:34 AM
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I can not believe JJ was actually penalized for speeding. It is a miracle.

The Waltrip’s have no class, goes to show what is wrong with Nascar when someone with Mikey’s talent can be so successful in his ‘career’, I guess you would call it, and be living the lifestyle he is. I hope there are changes coming for Nascar, not to the way they used to be, but to a new Nascar. When you see Dupont and others, this entire business model is really starting to come into question. With corporations overtaking the sport, I would be glad to have the majority of them bow out, reduce the cost of the sport, etc.

noel_w
05/17/2010 12:27 PM
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Matt it is standard for Coumadin levels to be tested twice per week as it is an extremely volatile drug. It is nearly impossible to maintain a therapeutic dose and not increase bleedings times excessively. It is possible (although not common) that the blood can become thin enough to begin leaking through the skin without an injury being present.
I won’t speculate on the etiology of Brian developing the clots in the first place, but there is a reasonable chance that he will be on coumadin maintenance therapy for the rest of his life.
Good luck to you Brian. May God bless and heal you.

Fox’s coverage has always been garbage. The only reason that it looked good to begin with, is because NBC/TNT’s coverage was just that horrible. When Fox has to compete with ESPN/ABC and their actual coverage of the technical side of NASCAR, their awful coverage is just so much more obvious.

I have to disagree with you. I have been to Dover several times. It is one of the best tracks in NASCAR for a fan to watch an entire event. I never minded the traffic. I just sat around in the camping area for a couple hours and B-B-Qed a meal in preparation for the 8 hour drive home. I think the reason for Dover (and many other tracks) not selling out the seats, is because NASCAR is too busy selling out the entire sport.

Ah, DansMom, another example of why it should be mandatory to be I.Q. tested and licensed to own a TV or a computer. Cue your newest girlfriend Randy!!! lmao

laidback racing
05/17/2010 12:28 PM
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to badwolf:
i think dansmom’s real name is Brian Z France

ThunderRoads
05/17/2010 12:38 PM
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I typically dont post on these kind of things but I just had to chime in about the race this week.

I think it is rediculous that NASCAR intentionally took away a WIN from Jimmy Johnson. It was obvious that he had the best car… by far! They decided to give him a speeding penalty so that they could create more action in what was otherwise a Jimmy DOMINATED race.

I am sick and tired of nascar intentionally fixing the races so that their golden-boy Kyle Busch can come up with wins.

RandyGoldman
05/17/2010 12:40 PM
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I think NASCAR should institute a new ALL-STAR race rule. Any winner of the Indy 500 is automatically allowed in the race. This will ENSURE that my girl Danica gets to whoop up on all of those lower calibur drivers next year.

HankZ
05/17/2010 01:02 PM
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I’d rather listen to four years of Jimmie Jimmie Jimmie than three days of Kyle Kyle Kyle. So, with 33 to go Sunday, the power button on my TV remote was pressed.

Hang in there Vickers!!!

DoninAjax
05/17/2010 01:05 PM
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Johnson’s speed was 40.091mph. The limit was 35 plus 5? Why can’t they just say the limit is 40?
That scream you heard when Johnson got his penalty was DansMom. She immediately went next door to have a chat with Brian.

Mary in Richmond
05/17/2010 01:13 PM
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ROFLMAO at “Kudos to Hamlin for being incredibly gracious after the incident”. Considering he caused two wrecks and how he whined about Brad K and carried on a vendetta against Brad that would make Tony Soprano proud, he certainly should have been “gracious”. Denny would run over his own mother to win a race. He’s totally a “do as I say and not as I do” person.

RandyGoldman
05/17/2010 01:29 PM
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Oh I forgot to thank Matt for another “page-turner” this week. Is there a smiley-face that conveys sarcasm?

WLPELTON
05/17/2010 01:48 PM
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We were at Dover yesterday and watched 300 laps of boring “racing” until Kyle and Jimmie made it a little bit exciting for about 50 laps. Then the penalty was assessed and the promise of an exciting finish was gone. It seems they could use a little judgement on some of these penalties. Jimmie went in the leader and came out second, gained no advantage from being .9 miles per hour over the limit and the fans lost a chance for an exciting finish. Many people started leaving as soon as the penalty was announced. Dover has not been a “Monster” since the concrete track was put in place

wingcars6970
05/17/2010 02:25 PM
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Which Indy 500 did she win?? The one on the 37th of Julumber?

DansMom
05/17/2010 02:29 PM
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I think Buschs success in the Cup Series race was a direct result of all the laps he ran in the other 2 series. Maybe we could grow the sport if more Cup drivers raced in Nationwide and Truck series races.

JerseyGirl
05/17/2010 02:29 PM
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I was at Dover on Sunday. Lots and lots of empty seats and it was one BORING race. the people behind me left and I stretched out to take a nap! A nap while I’m AT the race.

Give me a race at martinsville, richmond and Darlington any day! Who needs a casino if the racing is good?

RandyGoldman
05/17/2010 02:31 PM
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Well since the 2010 Indy 500 hasnt happened yet, she obviously cant be the winner, yet. But I think we can all agree that she is the favorite to win this year.

DansMom
05/17/2010 03:22 PM
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I’m just proud of Danica for being the 1st NASCAR driver that will compete in the Indy 500.

Monica
05/17/2010 03:25 PM
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We were stunned that fox found it necessary to not only go into great detail on what a broken shifter ( on Kahnes’ car ) was , but then go to the prop car in the infield to SHOW us what the gear shift lever LOOKED LIKE ! Good thing too , because no one in the audience had any idea what a gear shift lever was , or did , or looked like . Hammond and the cut away car , both were money well spent .

Susan
05/17/2010 03:26 PM
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I think everyone, incluidng Mattt, missed the real reason JJ got caught speeding. He knew it was likely the last pit stop and the winner off pit road would win the race. When he saw Kyle out of the corner of his eye pulling ahead out of the pits, he pushed his car just that little bit extra to get by Kyle and got the penalty. Credit this one one to Kyle’s superiority on both restarts and his exit from pit road. He is head and shoulders above the other drivers at these two skills. And these skills win more races than just about any other in this GWC world. Kyle is the man – at the tender age of 25.

Mike
05/17/2010 03:29 PM
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Danica Patrick will be the first NASCAR driver to compete at indy unless you count Cale , and Bobby , and numerous others .

DansMom
05/17/2010 03:33 PM
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Mike, Danica participated in LAST YEAR’s Indy 500 – so she’ll be chronologically ahead of all those guys who compete THIS year.

laidback racing
05/17/2010 03:43 PM
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dansmom said “I’m just proud of Danica for being the 1st NASCAR driver that will compete in the Indy 500.”
sorry to inform you BUT she is far from being the first nascar driver to compete in the Indy 500. Does any of the following names ring a bell “john andretti” “Tony Stewart” “robbie Gordon” these are newer drivers so you may have heard of them…and the following is from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indianapolis_500

In the 1960s and early 1970s, the Indy 500 and the World 600 at Charlotte Motor Speedway were held on different days of the week. A handfull of NASCAR regulars participated in both events in the same year, including Bobby Allison, Donnie Allison, Cale Yarborough, and Lee Roy Yarbrough.

Shayne
05/17/2010 04:07 PM
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Laidback Racing, don’t let actual facts confuse some of these folks. LOL.

Kevin from PA
05/17/2010 04:23 PM
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I remember one year they had almost 24 coverage of Tony Stewart when he raced both. His helicopter (actually Ganassi’s if I remember correctly) landing at Charlotte had the same coverage as the moon landing.

Of course a) that is when time allowed a driver to race both; b) predates Danica; and c) when both races actually mattered to the non-racing American TV watcher – who will probably be more concerned about how “The Hills” will end.

RandyGoldman
05/17/2010 05:03 PM
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@Kevin: Dont be rediculous… no one watches the hills anymore. Thats so 2008. Try to stay up with pop-culture. The real housewives of NJ is where the action is these days.

VolcanoNacho
05/17/2010 05:11 PM
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I think we need to petition FOX to allow DIGGER to be shown on the other networks when they aren’t doing the NASCAR coverage. I am going to miss that little guy. He is by far the greatest marketing idea NASCAR has ever had.

Jed
05/17/2010 05:25 PM
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Thanks to several of you for enforcing my belief that DansMom is an out of touch newbie who tends to dribble mush every time she posts. Sadly, I can remember when a Dover race was one to look forward to most of the time. Not this year. Maybe we’ll have better luck in the fall.

Vito Pugliese - FS Staff
05/17/2010 06:17 PM
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Anybody remember when this used to be a 500-mile affair at Dover? I wonder what the outcome would have been if that was the case on Sunday – besides six cars on the lead lap.

laidback racing
05/17/2010 08:24 PM
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vito..I actually liked it at 500…so many cars didn’t have enough ompah to last that long!

Henry M
05/17/2010 08:47 PM
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When they were 500 laps / miles, the late, great Bennie Parsons called it “The 24 Hours of Dover”. Boy, they were long races.

DansMom
05/17/2010 09:09 PM
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VITO! SHAME ON YOU! I’m so sick of the fickle fans on this website who claim “the races are too long” and now want 100 more laps at DOVER!?!!?

Guys, I may not say the most popular things on this website – but I’m consistent in my claims.

Maybe if you’d stop blindly following columnists and formulate your own opinions you would realize that NASCAR today isn’t that bad.

OPEN YOUR EYES and watch a race, without prejudice, and if you can’t do that – move on. NASCAR doesn’t need you.

Wow, Vito, big fan, but that one just pissed me off.

midasmicah
05/17/2010 09:54 PM
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Come on folks!! Hasn’t everybody figured out that what’s her face posts here just to get a reaction. Kind of like a little kid standing in the middle of the room screaming for attention. Or like a dog peeing on you. That kind of attention getter.

Bad Wolf
05/17/2010 10:12 PM
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Dan Mom, I was in Wal-Mart last week and they had die cast Digger cars in the mark down isle for $14. You better turn off the computer and go get you some before all the other “Tiger Beat” reading newbies scoop them up.

DansMom
05/17/2010 10:24 PM
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Bad Wolf-

I never claimed to like Digger. Besides, who buys die casts? Weren’t they popular in like 1998?

How many “rainbow warrior” die casts do you have laying around collecting dust?

Die Casts are about as cool as MC Hammer

laidback racing
05/18/2010 08:32 AM
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midasmicah I know she is just posting dribble to get a reaction and I have ignored her all year but she is so far out of touch it has made it hard. The last two weeks her posts have annoyed me more than Michael Waltrip. I do notice that she doesn’t bother to answer post that point out her incorrect information.

dansmom said “Maybe if you’d stop blindly following columnists and formulate your own opinions you would realize that NASCAR today isn’t that bad.”
this is really my last post to dansmom… WTF! that is something coming from a person who uses terms like “Maybe we could grow the sport”

“Too bad it was a terrible finish, a debris caution and a few GWCs would have “bamn” kicked things up a notch!”

“Anyone else notice how well attended the Dover race was?”

Talk about blindly following columnist dansmom is following Brian France so blindly she is gonna bump into him if he comes to a sudden stop.

Dansmom, you said a few weeks ago you weren’t going to bother reading Matt anymore so PLEASE keep your word! It is uninformed, ignorant of the facts, fans like you that tick off long time fans. Fans like you that change facts to suit whatever it is you are trying to say! And I use that term “fans” loosely. And one last thing your “NoOneCaresAlina” comment is beyond stupid. you probably think the track that is called Atlanta Motor Speedway is actually in Atlanta or the one called Charlotte Motor Speedway is actually in Charlotte.

RandyGoldman
05/18/2010 10:26 AM
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Hahahahaha…
“Hasn’t everybody figured out that what’s her face posts here just to get a reaction.”

Its like she is the bad guy from the Harry Potter movies. “She who shall not be named”

old gal from socal
05/18/2010 02:01 PM
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“…not selling out the seats, is because NASCAR is too busy selling out the entire sport.” Great line, noel_w! I believe that the economy is probably a bigger factor, but it doesn’t negate the fact that NASCAR sold its soul a long time ago and continues to fill its coffers on the backs of the fans. Bigger isn’t necessarily better for the fans, something Bill France Jr. either didn’t believe or didn’t care about. Does it irk anyone else that we, the unwashed masses, are continually being asked to fund the charities of multimillionaires? I’m much more impressed when a driver/owner/executive/media personality spends his own cash, makes his own sacrifice to give to a philanthropic organization. Maybe it’s just me but between the Media, the Sponsors, and NASCAR I’m starting to feel a little bit manipulated.

24Crazy
05/18/2010 02:55 PM
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I find it funny how DansMom can get in your head like HE does. ( swear it is BF posting under her name.) Everything HE says is totally opposite of reality and you all just eat it up. Don’t give him the satisfaction!!!

laidback racing
05/19/2010 08:41 AM
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24crazy…when your are right you are right…i can’t believe I wasted time having a battle off wits with an unarmed man

tim
05/19/2010 07:55 PM
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the only thing dansmom is doing now is taking away from the quality work that Matt is doing from now on i am going to ignore every post from whats her name lol

Ann
05/20/2010 09:09 AM
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I wish everyone would ignore DansGrandmother’s posts and actually discuss facts. He/she/it will go away if ignored.

Paul M
05/20/2010 07:31 PM
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I was at the race and traffic was quite good coming and going actually. You cannot expect to converge or leave a place of 100,000 people whenever you feel like it. Bring a magazine or cookout before or after. We parked in the mall and did some shopping beforehand. If you think Dover traffic is bad, then you have not been to some places that are far worse.

And all this back and forth with the childish comments? Why? Can we discuss the race please?