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MPM2Nite: When Busch Comes To Shove

Matt McLaughlin · Thursday November 10, 2011


Unless you spent the last week recovering from the bends in a hyperbaric chamber, by now you’ve seen or heard of Kyle Busch’s outrageous and unwarranted behavior during last Friday night’s truck race. Thus, I will only sum up what happened quickly to remind casual fans of the salient points. On lap 13, Ron Hornaday found himself in the middle of a three-wide racing pack. The air was taken off his rear spoiler and Hornaday got crossed up and into the side of Busch’s truck. Those two vehicles both made contact with the wall, though damage appeared minimal after the initial incident. Given the race was barely underway, both trucks could probably have been repaired in the pits and returned to the event with a viable shot perhaps even at a win.

But whatever low-amp circuit breaker that supplies the electricity to Kyle Busch’s brain was once again tripped. Another driver, albeit it a full-time competitor in the Truck Series two decades plus his senior had dared to thwart the efforts of the Great and Powerful KYBU who by birth is entitled to win every race he enters. Even while his spotter and crew chief begged, then finally demanded, that Busch calm the hell down, Vile Kyle unleashed went back after the driver he felt had wronged him – an affront that could not be tolerated – with evil intent. Had Busch decided to tap the rear bumper of Hornaday’s truck a few times, even under caution, I’d have been OK with that. That’s typical procedure to let the other driver involved in an incident know you aren’t happy with how he was racing that early in an event. But once Busch latched onto Hornaday’s bumper, he was like a terrier on a rat. He just wasn’t letting go. He kept right at his dirty task until he’d managed to stuff Hornaday hard, nose-first into the wall.

It wasn’t a spur of the moment bad call. Busch did so with aforethought, malfeasance and premeditation. And that’s when the bad-tempered little punk went from a race vehicle driver to a felon wielding a 3,600 pound, 190 MPH, 700 horsepower weapon deadlier than any handgun I’ve ever fired (and I’ve shot with some real cannons). Fortunately, Hornaday wasn’t injured in the wreck, but Busch couldn’t have known that was going to be the outcome when he sent that other truck into the wall. Luckily, Busch’s tactics have a way of backfiring on him and that was the case Friday night. In the process of wrecking Hornaday, he sent his own mount hard into the wall, destroying it. Even if he hadn’t, NASCAR probably would have parked him for the night anyway, so blatant and egregious was his offense.

Kyle Busch’s antics have put him in the spotlight once again, but will his talent outweigh his actions in the eyes of corporate sponsors?

Yeah, yeah, yeah, Matt I can hear one of the limited number of fans Busch has left after Saturday muttering, this is stock car racing. You’re the verbose idiot who is always saying this is racing, not lawn croquet. But what happened Friday night wasn’t a routine racing incident. It’s in no way comparable to Dale Earnhardt’s dumping Terry Labonte at Bristol way back when. Those two drivers were battling for a race win late in an event and they were both going for the championship. Busch’s day job is as a Cup driver who happened to qualify for the Chase, though he’s done what he’s done annually and suffered a late-season meltdown in that series which has stripped him of any legitimate title hope. Still, you’d think that a driver still mathematically in contention for a championship would show a driver in a series where Busch was only moonlighting a bit more respect. Or perhaps even the tiniest modicum of respect. Or that he just wouldn’t be a total and complete asshole and wreck him under caution, for goodness’ sake. But I doubt that Busch can even spell “respect.” His definition of the term is respect is what is due him, but not deserved by others who sully the race tracks where he’s supposed to win because he is, after all, Kyle Busch. This is his world, and the rest of us just live here. Screw that noise. If Hornaday did show up at Casa De Busch to deliver a proper ass-kicking on the punk, I’d have been happy to have held Ron’s watch while he did so. Even in this era of “Boys, Have At It” it’s clear some of the boys have had it with Busch.

Hornaday is one of the stalwarts of the Truck Series, having been around since the series’ first race. He was one of the carpenters of that series that built the table where Busch now digs his filthy little piggish hands into the dinner bowl, snorting to keep others away from the modest feast. Kyle Busch should be racing in the Truck Series about as much as Cliff Lee needs to be pitching Little League ball. At least Lee wouldn’t be throwing brushback balls at third graders. Hornaday, who’d once been considered out of the title chase had driven to a remarkable set of four straight first or second-place finishes to put himself back into contention for a fifth Truck title. But that all ended when Busch came to shove.

Keep in mind that it wasn’t just Hornaday who Busch screwed on Friday night. As a successful racer and multi-time champion, Hornaday probably lives quite comfortably if not affluently like the jug-eared bitch that took him out. But team members on Hornaday’s team don’t earn such lavish wages, especially in the Truck Series. There are bonuses team members get for winning races and especially for winning titles that they really could have used, especially with the team shutting down at the end of the season. Busch reached into those men’s pockets and stole from them as surely as if he were a low-life pickpocket.

Ron Hornaday put up a historic charge to surge back into contention for a fifth Truck title. But with one hit to the back bumper, Kyle Busch shattered those title chances into smithereens… leaving Hornaday and crew left to stew over thousands of potential dollars lost.

And what of the employees of owner/driver Kyle Busch? They had invested a tremendous amount of time and talent into building a very fast truck that gave Busch a chance to compete for yet another win. They won’t be seeing any bonus money for a race win this week, either, despite their efforts. How anyone could work for that dumb bastard I’ll never figure out. In his self-righteous indignation at having one of his trucks wrecked, Busch wondered aloud who was going to pay for his demolished race vehicle. Well, as it should be, Kyle it’s the loathsome idiot that wrecked the car… you.

To a degree, I’ve tried to back off Busch a bit this season. He did, after all, seem to be trying to reinvent his image this year by being less petulant and less of a smartass with the media. Maybe Gibbs was lacing his meals with Ritalin. Busch is undeniably a hugely talented driver that’s a threat to win every weekend. I might feel that he’s pond scum because of his actions Friday night, but I won’t deny this guy is a tremendous race car driver. And it’s not his fault that he’s one of the ugliest son of a bitches ever to turn a wheel in NASCAR going up against the more marketable pretty boys over at Hendrick. But Friday night, Busch clearly not only crossed the line, he sped through the next three counties and rammed into a gathering of Make-A-Wish kids. His conduct was completely inexcusable and whatever penalties he has faced or will face as a result are solely of his own making and richly deserved.

Having read Busch’s apology, I am not impressed. Clearly, some PR person wrote “Kyle’s” I’m sorry note. It lacked Busch’s tortured syntax, use of the third person in referring to himself, misuse of multi-syllable words, and at least a hint of blaming somebody else. The statement I read instead stunk of committee-speak, with heavy input from Gibbs and Mars as well as a crisis management team Gibbs assembled back in the days when Tony Stewart was the thorn in his side. I wonder if they even let Busch read it over before releasing it. It’s telling there was no way Gibbs was going to let Busch speak publicly live until they were sure he’d ingested the Kool-Aid.

My initial thoughts on Friday night were that Busch’s punishment should have involved being lowered by fishing hooks through his scrotum into a vat of boiling battery acid. NASCAR’s decision to park Busch for the Nationwide and Cup races last weekend was appropriate, but not severe enough for the loathsome thing that he did. I feel that NASCAR should have parked him in all three series for the remaining events of the year. And if I was in charge, he’d have started next year’s Cup series at negative 48 points, forced to catch up a full race’s worth of points from the start. That would force him to study the points standings after each week’s race in 2012, seeing how much his lack of basic human decency had cost him as he struggled to even make the Chase.

NASCAR’s “Boys, Have At It” policy has garnered a positive reaction by and large from the fans. But at some point, a line has to be drawn and a driver who isn’t even competing for the title wrecking a series regular who is very much in title contention due to a temper tantrum worthy of a three-year old spoiled brat has to be dealt with. The “Have At It” policy was supposed to give the drivers a chance to police their own ranks and Busch has felt the wrath of the “Live by the sword, die by the sword” policy from his peers more than once. Most notably, revenge occurred this season when Kevin Harvick tried to punch him out on pit road and an owner twice his age did, in fact, take off his watch and attempt to beat some sense into Busch “old school” style. For whatever reason, and I’d guess its his sense of entitlement coupled with the fact he’s dumb as an acre of mud the lessons haven’t sunk in for Busch, so it’s time to go medieval on his ass. In order for punishment to be effective it must be swift, severe and certain but sometimes there’s no getting a donkey to go down a trail it has no interest in traveling and the only recourse left is to take a stick to it. If that doesn’t work, get a bigger stick. And for a jackass like Busch, you might as well fire up the cattle prod as well.

If that, too, fails well I’m sure Joe Gibbs isn’t going to put up with much more and Mars, the parent company of M&Ms, surely isn’t. My Dad was a VP at a Mars division and he always told me that the Mars brothers who run the ship are of high moral character and didn’t put up with any shenanigans. If a loading dock worker was going to be docked for showing up late on a Friday morning, so was a Vice President who just returned from an overseas trip Thursday evening. How a company that with those standards, especially one that markets their primary products to children, is going to continue to put up with Busch’s hooliganism is beyond me.

For all his self-delusional thinking that Kyle Busch is somehow vital to NASCAR’s future, this sport got along fine without him before he arrived and it will continue on after.

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11/10/2011 05:52 AM


11/10/2011 06:40 AM

I agree with NASCAR’s ruling and have no love for Kyle Busch since his driving 120 in a 45 zone. I’m not complaining about Matt’s sentiment, but using one’s car as a weapon at full speed should be a bigger crime, as should using one’s car on pit road as a weapon. Tony Stewart, Carl Edwards and Kyle’s brother could all have been suspended for a race too.

Denise W
11/10/2011 07:19 AM

Great column Matt! Lots of truth in today’s column…

11/10/2011 08:24 AM

if memory serves me, didn’t nascar dock mwr points and they started with a negative balance when they had one of their cheating episodes at daytona?

i think busch could be on early vacation, as roush did with his brother a few years ago.

Bill B
11/10/2011 08:26 AM

Pretty good synopsis Matt. Not much else to say. We’ll probably hear some big announcements today.

Agreed! The only difference is that those other guys usually are smarter and leave a little doubt as to whether it was intentional or not (even though everyone knows it was). Busch left no doubt.

11/10/2011 09:19 AM

I had been looking forward to this piece all week, since you hinted of it coming in your Monday recap.

It was worth the wait, great piece as usual Matt!

While I thought NASCAR might park him for the rest of the season, I think what they did is pretty good. Can Kyle keep his inner demon in check for two races? I think every driver on the track in any series he starts the next two weeks, should take a shot at him. Make him cross that line! LOL

Maybe he should just start his winter vacation now, better safe than sorry. Any thing he does that can be perceived as bad behavior equals indefinite suspension!

If the race is boring, maybe they can focus on Kyle for the whole race, seeing if he can finish each event without losing his cool. Wonder if there is a Vegas line on that?

11/10/2011 09:41 AM

Great,no,Perfect article!!

Don Mei
11/10/2011 10:25 AM

Good column. One thing that is worth mentioning is that this “have at it” crap is going to see someone get killed one of these days. It hasn’t happened yet thanks to soft walls and the Hans device. That shot into the wall might have been fatal a few years back. Until NASCAR is willing to empower a Race Director or chief Referee with the authority to park a competitor immediately and/or ban him from the next event, nothing will change.

Michael in SoCal
11/10/2011 10:34 AM

More fallout coming Friday morning it seems… Z-Line Designs has reportedly asked that Hamlin drive their NW car at Homestead.

Carl D.
11/10/2011 10:46 AM

I wouldn’t say Kyle Busch is evil incarnate, but he’s definitely, as Brad Keselowski said, an ass. I really don’t know if he deserves to be fired by JGR or even parked for the rest of the year; that’s Gibb’s call, but whatever happens, Kyle brought this on himself. He’s had opportunity after opportunity to get his act together, and has failed to do so. However severe any additional penalties turn out to be, it’s not because Nascar or Joe Gibbs or M&M’s has it out for Kyle, it’s because of Kyle’s actions. I have no sympathy for Kyle Busch; he’s made his own bed.

11/10/2011 10:57 AM

Matt, that is without a doubt the most spot on, truthful article I’ve ever read. Bravo for telling it like it is. When scrub didn’t have the cajones to congratulate his own brother on a rain shortened win a few years back, I knew there were more than a few screws loose in his pumpkin. Also agree with you 110% – the jerk is talented (I watch him more than any driver at a race), but the attitude and sense of entitlement is horrendous. Keep up the great work!

11/10/2011 10:58 AM

Great write-up Matt, calling a spade a spade and not white washing JERKS antics. Thank you for expressing most of my feelings towards an act of unlawful behavier on the track.

11/10/2011 10:59 AM

while i agree mostly with matt and completely agree with carl d. i still say the community is over reacting and i will continue to point towards the similar incidents of carl edwards and kevin harvick. the punishment is fair and enough. kb will either learn (probably not grow) from this or he will not at his own peril. the more important thing is the more sponsors are allowed to dictate anything other than picking what color the car is the worse racing becomes… i don’t think i need to illustrate that fact any more than to point to the current state of the sport.

11/10/2011 11:19 AM

Kyle Busch has been traveling this road since he came into the Busch series. The guys in the booth, especially DW and LarryMac have praised and exalted the little SOB to the point he thinks he is the center of the universe. Everybody from the announcers to the media to Nascar has excused his thuggish behavior, and now we have come to this. Remember his father altered his birth certificate at the beginning to illegally enter him into the Truck series. With that auspicious kind of start we might have foretold the future of this punk.

Now some in the media think Nascar would be stiffled without Kyle. It survived the death of a hero (Dale Earnhardt), and could sure as hell survive the booting of this particular varmint.

11/10/2011 11:33 AM

The part of racing today that’s missing is isn’t a Richard Petty, a Dale Sr, a DJ, to get in the face of these young drivers and tell them about respect and their need to earn it.
I wonder if Joe Gibbs has any idea of his role in all of this. He is a long way from the teams of Labonte and Jarrett. With those drivers he had respectability. Now he is as big a question as is Kyle.

old farmer
11/10/2011 11:42 AM

It’s racing. Where were all of you when the seemingly perfect Edwards got lucky & didn’t physically disable Brad K. for life when he punted BK into the catch fence? I really don’t remember anyone whining then about Edwards being banned, fired, etc.—except from BK’s dad.

Oh, yeah, I forgot—Carl’s a “good guy.” My bad.

I have a rather strong hunch that KB will still be around.

It’s a real shame that you whiners and bitchers are not running NASCAR so you could get rid of anyone you don’t like. But you are not, so suck it up & live with what really goes on rather than what you think should go on.

In the meantime, GO 14!

11/10/2011 12:26 PM

Right On Matt. I couldn’t agree more.

The only thing missing from Kyle’s life is Lyndsay Lohan. I think he married the wrong girl.

PS: Old Farmer, you call what KB did on Friday racing??? Wow.

11/10/2011 12:30 PM

One of your best articles ever Matt!!

I hope somebody sends it to KyBu. But you did use a lot of those gosh darn big words that Kryle will have to look up in the dictionary.

Kyle is a punk and needs to be parked for the rest of the year and the first race of next season, Daytona. Then maybe it’ll sink into his thick skull that it’s not all about him. I’m 60 and have been going to NASCAR races since 1964. KyBu is undoubtedly the dumbest SOB I’ve seen in all my years of being a race fan.

Doug in Washington (State)
11/10/2011 12:34 PM

There were plenty of folks who wanted Edwards suspended after that Atlanta incident. That was far more premeditated. Since Edwards got no more than a wrist slap I boycotted Subway for a year.

It was hard getting through this article though because Matt’s anti-Busch bias is so strong. Busch hasn’t done anything to help his case, and I agree that he is a self-entitled pompus a__. But he’s also one hell of a wheelman when he isn’t foaming at the mouth. I think the penalties he has already received are plenty, though I wouldn’t disagree with the #18 Truck being suspended from Homestead. I also believe that if that behavior continues the penalties should get more severe, as they already have.

11/10/2011 12:36 PM

Congrats to Z-Line for dumping that psyco Kyle and getting him off a race track for awhile!Now let’s hope M&M’s and JGR follows their lead.

Bill B
11/10/2011 12:42 PM

You know, I keep hearing over and over about how talented Kyle is. I acknowledge he has talent but personally, I don’t see him having any more talent than most of the drivers in the top 15 in any given week. If you ignore his Truck and NW wins and just look at his Cup wins, it isn’t that impressive when compared to most others. He isn’t the Michael Jordon of NASCAR. His talent isn’t that above and beyond a lot of the other drivers and (Harvick and Edwards aside) most of those other drivers don’t constantly have a s%$tstorm of controversy swirling around them. So yeah, he’s talented, but it just isn’t worth the BS when there are other guys that will do the same thing without all the BS.

Kevin in SoCal
11/10/2011 12:43 PM

Old Farmer, I think your memory is a bit short. Go back to the Frontstretch recaps of that Atlanta race, and there were MANY people calling for Edwards to be parked and/or suspended for his actions that day.
I dont agree with what Kyle did, but I think many of you are prejudiced against him and are calling for his head based on your dislike/hatred of him.

11/10/2011 12:48 PM

I have one thing to say, GO ROWDY!

Bill B
11/10/2011 12:59 PM

The question then is, why are so many people predjudice towards Kyle?

You have to admit he leads all drivers in doing stupid things, saying contraversial things, etc.,. So, you have to admit, he is the cause of that predjudice in most cases and therefore it has been earned. He’s not the poor victim of everybody’s hatred. He’s done everything he can to make people not like him just by being himself.

11/10/2011 12:59 PM

Pretty much summed up everything I’ve said about it all week, including the fact that he HOOKED him rather than bumping/spinning him—if it weren’t for SAFER barriers we might be talking about Kyle Busch killing Ron Hornaday.

I say ban him from Trucks. Let him keep racing the other two series. It’s his own team anyway, and he was going to race it in Nationwide anyway… So ban him. It’s just his own personal sandbox anyway, beating up on the little guys and underfunded teams.

Kyle Eaton
11/10/2011 01:24 PM

I think that you said it all pretty clearly. One thing that I’ll add is that both NASCAR and JGR bear blame in this too. Both groups could have done something sooner, and should have.

11/10/2011 01:30 PM

I’m impressed when a columnist who routinely complains about the vanilla nature of the sport calls for the least vanilla driver’s head. Guess what, if you only say “ sponsor car ran good today” you aren’t ever going to say anything stupid, but it makes for a boring interview.

Matt can claim righteous indignation all he wants but if the roles had been reversed and Hornaday had punted Kyle under caution after Kyle wrecked him, Matt would be writing about how Kyle got what he deserved.

Not to beat a dead horse, but Carl E. didn’t get parked (beyond the duration of the Atlanta race) for the much worse WOT wreck with Kes. Also you can describe Hornaday as a “truck series veteran” to your hearts content, but it doesn’t change the fact that he has certainly been involved/caused more than his share of on track incidents over the years in both trucks and his brief Cup career (not to mention winston west incidents).

just talking
11/10/2011 01:30 PM

I am not sure Kyle is still so much better than the other drivers. Last year, it seems very few drivers could or would go toe to toe with him – meaning side by side lap after lap until someone passed. But this year a handful of drivers have done that. Kyle is still more talented than most drivers, but I think some of the other drivers are catching up. A bad day for Kyle when he is not so much better than others.

11/10/2011 01:34 PM

Matt, I am not clear on your feelings toward this Kyle Busch fella.

Kevin in SoCal
11/10/2011 02:10 PM

TheGoodDoctorsaid: “Matt can claim righteous indignation all he wants but if the roles had been reversed and Hornaday had punted Kyle under caution after Kyle wrecked him, Matt would be writing about how Kyle got what he deserved.”

This is exactly what I’m talking about when I say people’s prejudices are getting in the way. If Hornaday had done this to Busch, people’s attitudes about the incident would be wildly different than they are now.

11/10/2011 02:15 PM

Aw shucks Matt, tell us how you really feel. That was probably the most straight forward non-pc article this year, can’t wait for the next wreck!!!

11/10/2011 02:26 PM

Gooddoctor: The wreck with Edwards/Keselowski BECAME much worse, but it most certainly was not worse. He punted him a) under green b) with a Right-Front to Left-Rear bump intended to spin him out and c) on a straightaway where he likely WOULD have spun into the grass harmlessly and hurt no one. The fact that the car got airborne was something no one, including Edwards, wanted or expected. The two wrecks couldn’t possibly be more different.

As far as asking for “colourful” drivers and then complaining about them, Kyle goes far, far beyond what one could describe as a “heel”. This was far from his first incident, and it probably won’t be his last. It’s been a longtime pattern, this was just the last straw.

- Under caution

- In a series he doesn’t get points in

- 13 laps into a race

- wrecking a points contender

- wrecking him buy using a left-front to right-rear hook move

- at 160 mph at Texas, as opposed to 40 mph at Martinsville

- did it to retaliate for what was a simple racing mistake

- did it despite both cars being easily repairable and still capable of top 5s or wins

There’s a heel, there’s “driver you love to hate”, and then there’s loose cannons who are a danger to everyone around them.

11/10/2011 02:44 PM

Pretty amazing synopsis, Matt and one I pretty much agree with – although I think you may have confused the Busch boys – the one with the tortured syntax is the Keebler elf – Shrubby is just a jerk.

And now we all know why most fans weren’t outraged with Childress taking his watch off. I know there were some who felt that Childress assaulted Busch, in my mind, it was a well deserved corrective measure.

I would like to see NASCAR not let him compete in the trucks or Nationwide at the very least for the rest of the season, although that probably penalizes his employees more than KyBu

11/10/2011 02:47 PM

Isn’t it funny how everyone remembers what Edwards did to Brad Keselowski at Atlanta, but nobody can remember that Brad nearly put Carl into the grandstands at Talladega for having the audacity to protect his position (the lead of the race), and showing absolutely no remorse for doing what he did. Further, I seem to recall lots of members of the media and most of the NASCAR fans applauding Brad for his actions and saying Carl got what he deserved. At the time. I sincerely believed that NASCAR should have called Brad’s victory back (thus giving it to Junior) and placed Brad in 43rd position. Oh, my bad for thinking that! I forgot who was all involved. I guess the old saying, “what goes around comes around” only applies to certain drivers. Now, in no way am I defending Kyle Busch, as I can’t stand the little turd, nor am I defending Carl Edwards, despite being a fan of Carl’s, and one who also thought he should have sat out the next couple of races at the time. But everyone here is only bringing up what Carl did to Brad, and forgetting what Brad pulled first. Yes, Brad got flipped by Carl at Atlanta. But! Brad flipped Carl at Talladega, and the consequences were a lot more catastrophic. If you are going to attack one driver, then please remember ALL the facts before launching that attack.

11/10/2011 02:52 PM

John, so turning someone at 200+MPH is worse than than less than 150? I’m not sure Kyle could predict where Hornaday would end up any better than Carl could.

Bill B
11/10/2011 03:09 PM

Talk about selective memory. I am no Keslowski fan but if I recall Edwards was trying to block in the final lap at Talladega and there wasn’t room, Kesolowski did not lift to allow Carl to get away with the block. The reason fans were fine with it was because most of us don’t think blocking is right and we get tired of people trying to do it. So most of us saw that as no foul and that Carl brought it on himself. Afterall, why should anyone have to lift because someone else decides to block them on the final lap of a race. Conversely, Carl blatantly wrecked Kesolowki in obvious retribution at Atlanta.

At least that’s the way I remember it.
Please tell me where I got it wrong.

11/10/2011 03:35 PM

Gooddoctor: Physics? No one is perfect and anything can happen, but overwhelming odds are that if you hit someone in the left-rear they’ll either slide sideways and catch it, or spin out, either down to the grass or ass-end into the wall. You hook them on the R/R, you go nose-first into the wall. In most racing circles, a hook maneuver among drivers is an unspoken no-no. It rarely even happens in NASCAR.

The intent is completely different. What Carl did at Atlanta was stupid, and over-aggressive, but it was done on the straightaway, with no other cars around, and in MOST cases that move just results in a spin down into the grass.

11/10/2011 04:15 PM

John, I agree with you 100%. The car flipped because of the wing. Carl did it with 3 laps to go. All he wanted was a Keselowski to spin because there wouldn’t have been time for him to move up.
Kyle should know about the right rear. He already tried to put Harvick head on into the wall at Darlington earlier this year.

Dave G
11/10/2011 04:41 PM

I usually agree but KHI drivers have made a habit of roughing bushie up this year and I think he just had enough of it.
Nascrap will be even nore boring if they get rid of him.

11/10/2011 04:51 PM

John, go back and watch the KB vs Hornaday wreck again, I just did. I think KB was just pushing Hornaday into the corner and his own truck got a little squirrelly and then was essentially wrecking himself. That is what happens once you initiate a wreck you can’t always control the outcome. I think it is a stretch to say he drove into the corner intending to put Hornaday head first into the wall.

Beth G.
11/10/2011 05:16 PM

A little consistency from NASCAR would be nice. A driver should be parked for retaliation on the track regardless of which one we like better — the hitter or the hittee. Carl should have been parked for the hit on Brad, Kyle should have been parked (and for once, was), heck, Matt Kenseth should have been parked for hitting Brian Vickers.

11/10/2011 05:29 PM

Folks, while Edwards, Harvick, Kesolowski, and some others have had their moments, none of them compares to the amount of moments that Kyle has had since he has been racing in the truck, nationwide, and cup series. And, Kyle is a talented driver who has padded his record with wins in the truck and nationwide series. Would he have all those wins if Jeff Gordon, Edwards, Hamlin, Johnson and some others had been moonlighting in those series? Of course not. He runs the truck and nationwide series with the best crews, equipment, etc. Frankly, I have said for years that nascar needs to quit letting this cup drivers moonlight in these series and I still believe it. Also, I do strongly believe that Nascar and Joe Gibbs are responsible for Kyle being out of control. You can’t fine a multi-multimillionaire $50,000 and place him on probation for a few weeks and expect to get him under control. How many fines has Kyle gotten and how many probations has he been on in his career? Do you see any change in him? No. Nascar and Gibbs should suspend him for the remaining race weekends and put him on probation for the entire year of 2012. Matt, good article and I pretty much agree with everything you have written.

11/10/2011 05:55 PM

Matt – You have outdone yourself – Bravo! Edwards himself said that BK, holding his line was the thing to do… short/selective some memories are.

11/10/2011 07:51 PM

Good article Matt
a few others that kyle has affected would be nascar the networks homestead and the fans to have a driver on a hot streak as Hornaday has been and a points battle that was close going to the last race the networks lose out now they have nothing left to promote for the final race homestead loses out on a few people that might show up to see a tight battle for the championship then last but not least the fans lose out because after hornadays wreck now rather than making sure i was home to wacth the race i will prob just watch the end on dvr to see who won and so they can crown dillon

11/10/2011 10:22 PM

A couple of random thoughts on some of the fan reactions to controversy in Nascar.

1) What happened to the probation from the KyBu-Harvick incident? Wouldn’t this qualify as a probation violation?

2) Why don’t they use the Touring Series penalty for spinning out another driver? I believe it’s called “tailback” or restart dead last after the caution.

3) I think everyone needs to stop referring to “what would Dale Earnhardt have done/said” about everything that happens in Nascar. Stock car racing will never again become the sport it was back in the day until everyone realizes that the man is dead, buried, and he’s not coming back. The hero worship is so bad that the entire sport is still trying to revive his legacy through Kyle, Brad, Tony, Jr., etc. Honestly, most “racing” fans are sick of it. For God sakes let the man rest… and move on!!

4) Ever wonder how much “technical” support Stewart is getting from Hendrick Motor Sports? I wonder if he’s using some of Chad’s “special” setups.

5) Every article I read has some reference to the Edwards-BK incident(s) as a comparison to the latest perceived wrong. On the other hand the principals that were involved seem to have moved on and forgotten about it. Unfortunately, fans can’t seem to. This harkens back to the earlier Earnhardt comment, “move on for Christ’s sake”!

6) Fix the tires and you’ll fix the racing. Tires that wear out before a full fuel run create better racing.

7) Why on earth would you take the biggest race of the year to a track that has no competitive racing laps on it? That’s just stupid. I feel another Indy fiasco coming.

Okay, I’ve said my piece. Time to move on…

11/11/2011 01:24 PM

does anyone have the e-mail adress of mars main office? i have tried everything an cannot get my e-mail thru! thanks

11/11/2011 09:09 PM

You’re nothing more than a whiny little bitch. I don’t recall getting the message that you’ve been declared the oracle of stock car racing. There have been plenty of similar incidents and you’re a shallow minded bigot.
Go Tony!

11/12/2011 09:46 AM

I’m still amazed at Joe Gibb’s comments from their news conference. In it he said something like “firing Kyle was never an option” and “I really like Kyle”. This just goes to show what a hypocrite Joe is. The fact as has already been said is Kyle hasn’t got any meaningful punishment for all his transgressions except for sitting out last weeks races. And, I think Joe said something about they were going to punish Kyle some more but it would be monetary. You see, Kyle making the money he is making a year probably in excess of $10,000,000 a $50,000 fine is nothing so unless you up the fine to say $1,000,000 money is not going to change anything. Same thing with probabtion. Kyle was given probabtion for the next two races. You can bet Kyle will try and control hisself for the next two weeks. But, beginning in 2012 he will be off the hook and can pull another stunt if the circumstances present themselves. Frankly, I don’t think Joe really likes Kyle. What he does like is him winning races and making money for him. You can bet money if Kyle was not winning some races he would have been fired. Just goes to prove the saying “money is the root of all evil”.

steve in ca
11/13/2011 10:49 AM

Come on Matt.

Tell us how you REALLY feel about Kyle..