The Frontstretch: Talking NASCAR TV: Why Phoenix NASCAR Coverage Wilted For The Networks by Phil Allaway -- Monday February 28, 2011

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Hello, race fans. Welcome back to another edition of Talking NASCAR TV, where I take a look at the race telecasts available to race fans, and pick through them with a fine tooth comb. This past weekend, the Sprint Cup, Nationwide and Camping World Truck Series was in Avondale, Arizona for the last major race weekend at Phoenix International Raceway before the track is ripped up and reconfigured.

However, before we start, I have a talking point that was mentioned during SPEED’s practice coverage on Friday. The original subject of the booth discussion was Charles Lewandoski, who was making his season debut in the No. 44 Chevrolet for TriStar Motorsports in the Nationwide Series. Apparently, Kyle Petty and Jeff Hammond were having a little trouble pronouncing Lewandoski’s last name, so they asked Mike Joy.

Joy proclaimed that it was easy to pronounce and did it right then. Petty then brought up an interesting point. He claimed that Joy and Ken Squier had a bias toward Northeastern drivers because they’re both from New England. For reference purposes, Squier is from Vermont and helps to operate Thunder Road Speed Bowl in Barre, VT, while Joy is originally from Connecticut, but now lives in North Carolina.

Do play-by-play guys (or in this case, Joy and Squier) have a preference toward Northern drivers? Generally, I doubt it. In the past, drivers from north of the Mason-Dixon Line, and to a lesser extent, from out west as well, were quite the rarity in NASCAR prior to the 1990’s. Sure, there were exceptions, like Pete Hamilton or Tim Richmond, but that was more or less the way it was. Up until recently, more than a fair share of the drivers in NASCAR’s upper-most divisions came from North Carolina. Not so much now. I would argue that it was pointing out someone who was not from the core of where NASCAR is based.

In Squier’s case, he used to throw around hometowns or home states of drivers in the starting lineup for Cup races all the time, and not just for Northern drivers. He did it for the Southerners as well.

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On Friday night, we had the Camping World Truck Series return to action. The standard race recap of the previous week’s race, which headlined the beginning of NCWTS Setup last season, returned once again.


The Truck broadcast spent time reviewing Michael Waltrip’s Daytona win. Perhaps too much time.

The main feature of the Setup was a look at Michael Waltrip’s victory last week in the NextEra Energy Resources 250 and what it meant to him. The piece was complete with interviews with Waltrip and members of management at Vision Aviation Racing. It was decent, but I think that Waltrip’s win has become overblown, given the circumstances. We know he is a pretty good racer at Daytona and Talladega. We know how much Dale Earnhardt meant to him. I’m tired of Waltrip piggybacking off of him. It’s getting old, and it’s irritating me. There was still no mention in the feature (there was outside of it, though) of the great spoiler that decided to fail on the last lap and cost the team 25 owners points. I still haven’t picked up a copy of his book yet, which appears to have even more of the same content.

The Vault returned, this time covering the 1995 Goodwrench Delco 200, where Mike Skinner clinched the first ever championship for what is now the Camping World Truck Series. Knowing what the series has evolved into now, it was quite interesting to look at. A quick interview with Skinner revealed that the trucks had suffered from quite a bit of lift in the front, not dissimilar to Cup cars at Daytona and Talladega in the 1980’s (pre-restrictor plate era). Also, it should be noted that Phoenix, which book ended the schedule in 1995, was the series’ fastest track at the time.

TruckBuddy returned with its usual features on Friday, but there were some issues. The service at nascar.com was not up and running at the start of the race, much to the chagrin of myself, and other interested viewers. Also, the battle cam usually zeroes in on teams given the Lucky Dog/Free Pass/whatever you want to call it this week. That did not happen.

With the aforementioned Michael Waltrip back in the booth in place of his older brother, the race telecast went back to the flow that we’ve become used to over the past few years. Never thought I’d say that.

Allen, Parsons and Waltrip have a pretty good rapport together in the broadcast booth these days. Despite his penchant for self-promotion, Michael tends to pick his spots to chime in on SPEED broadcasts, as opposed to what we’ve seen this year already from his older brother.

There was quite a bit to like about Friday’s broadcast. There were a number of wide, establishing shots of action on track, mixed in with some tighter shots. The blimp also got quite a bit of play, especially right after restarts when the field was still bunched up and the action was fast and furious.

Even with the last quarter of the race marred by a multitude of wrecks, the race still finished relatively early. As a result, there was plenty of time for post-race coverage. SPEED chose not to use all of their allotted time, though. In the time that SPEED chose to use, they interviewed six drivers and the winning crew chief. In addition, there were checks of the unofficial results and point standings, and some post-race analysis before SPEED left the air to get to SPEED Center.

SPEED Center was scheduled to start at 10:30 pm EST, yet, they decided to put it on ten minutes early. I don’t think Adam Alexander was ready for that.

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The Nationwide Series returned to Phoenix on Saturday for their first “unrestricted” race of the season (I suppose they’re always restricted with the tapered spacers). However, viewers had to deal with that old foe of NASCAR Countdown, the NCAA. The Memphis-UTEP game, which wasn’t even that much of a contest, ran long, cutting off the first ten minutes of NASCAR Countdown’s timeslot.

When ESPN finally came on-air from Phoenix, they declared that Countdown would flow right into the Opening Ceremonies. I don’t really understand the difference as compared to normal here, but that is what they declared that they would do.

There is always a good amount of pre-race analysis on NASCAR Countdown, and Saturday’s 20 minute show was no exception. The Infield Studio analysis took up nearly half the show. There were only three quick driver interviews before pre-race opening ceremonies began.


Trevor Bayne won the Daytona 500. Did ESPN need to review this on the Nationwide broadcast?

The only real feature shown during NASCAR Countdown was one about Trevor Bayne winning the Daytona 500, complete with quotes from Bayne and the Wood Brothers. A nice look back at Bayne’s accomplishment, but one that had almost nothing to do with the series being covered. Yes, Bayne is full-time in the Nationwide Series and the fact that he won the Daytona 500 is big news. However, it came off like ESPN was riding his coattails (or in this case, his leather jacket). It could be argued that ESPN televising the races is in fact promotion for the Nationwide Series. Is Bayne winning the Daytona 500 promotion for the Nationwide Series?

The race telecast was marred by some technical issues. Every time that ESPN attempted to run radio chatter on-air, it would come in very, very quietly behind loud static. The pit reporters and commentators would carry on like nothing was wrong. There was no reference to the issue on air. However, to their credit, they did admit that they were working on the radio issue. Unfortunately, they could not get the issue fixed before the checkers flew.

Post-race coverage was fairly substantial since the race finished so quick. ESPN provided viewers with interviews with seven drivers, plus winning crew chief Jason Radcliff. However, those post-race interviews were tied into the storylines that ESPN wanted to follow during the race. Busch and Edwards were naturals since they finished first and second. Bayne got his time post-race only because ESPN couldn’t find a place to air it before the race ended. Of course, Danica Patrick got her time as well. Interviewing a bunch of Cup drivers and Patrick isn’t necessarily going to grow the series. Yes, new points leader Reed Sorenson was interviewed, but he was the only Nationwide regular (other than Bayne, who wrecked) to get time.

Nationwide is airing commercials during the races featuring a tour guide showing fans some of the new Nationwide cars…and thrashing Stenhouse’s in the process. They’re at least making an effort to give those drivers more exposure. Albeit, somewhat begrudgingly since they were actively in favor of maintaining the status quo from last season. ESPN has to do their part as well.

With Busch leading every lap and running away with the race at times, the race was quite boring to watch. There was substantial focus on the Cup drivers that were in the field during the telecast. Yes, those drivers were up front for most of the race, but they shouldn’t be the only focus. Other drivers should get their time as well, especially since those Cup drivers cannot run for the championship anymore.

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FOX downsized their pre-race show to a half-hour for their coverage from Phoenix. However, just because the show was only 30 minutes doesn’t mean that there wasn’t plenty of pre-race analysis from from Myers, Hammond and Waltrip. Unfortunately, the analysis and the features contained within cut down driver interviews to almost nothing. Only Bayne and Jimmie Johnson were interviewed. If you wanted to see driver interviews Sunday before the race, you had to go to the pre-pre-race show (NASCAR RaceDay Built by The Home Depot).

There was a feature depicting Michael Waltrip and his drivers (David Reutimann and Martin Truex, Jr.) spending a day with the Chicago White Sox at their training facility in nearby Glendale. Viewers were treated to the MWR trio taking some batting practice and hanging out in the locker room. The team was happy to have the trio there since a number of White Sox players are big NASCAR fans. Even the tempestuous Ozzie Guillen got in the act. However, the feature came off as boring to me.

There were two short features involving Bayne. The first followed Bayne across the country on his Daytona 500 Victory Tour, which included stops in San Francisco, where he named his own ice cream sundae, and an appearance on the George Lopez Show on Wednesday in Los Angeles. The second was a brief stand-up piece where Bayne talked about his win and the Wood Brothers. Nice, I guess, but the whole thing is seriously getting tired. We know that Bayne is very surprised that he gets to do everything that he’s done over the past nine days. Maybe he’ll snag another win later this year. Maybe he’ll get a chance with Emmy Rossum (who he basically admitted to having a crush on last season via Twitter), who knows. Bayne might very well be a future star, but all the exposure may be too much, too soon.

FOX also unveiled a new feature that I guess will run weekly called “Revved Up.” It was a short piece where Darrell Waltrip gets free reign to go off on something—in this case, people who disliked the two-car drafts in Daytona. FOX has tried this caveat before with Darrell, but it ended up basically being a one-time thing. We’ll see if it sticks now.

I had a number of issues with the race broadcast on Sunday. First off, FOX has a graphic touting the “UPS Logistics of the Race” that takes up the full screen. It doesn’t really tell anyone anything that we didn’t already know from before the race. If you’re going to have it at all, fix it so that it only takes up part of the screen so that viewers can still see the action on track.

Second, once again, there was a “Mystery Debris Caution” early in the race (Lap 20, to be exact). These cautions anger me. There’s no reason for NASCAR to simply make up a yellow that early in the race. FOX (and ESPN as well) needs to make a much more concerted effort to find debris on-track with their 50+ cameras, and once they do find it, point it out to viewers. Otherwise, fans start claiming that something isn’t on the up and up. There is a reason why there is a Jacques Debris Twitter page online.

Also, there was apparently a water seepage issue during the race in Turn 1 on the apron due to the overnight rains. The story, which could be considered quite important even though it was on the apron (where some drivers stick their left side wheels in order to change the balance of their cars), was never picked up on the broadcast. Those of you who believed that the track didn’t need to repaved should be silenced by that. If PIR were located anywhere but Arizona, it would have had to be repaved years ago because the poor drainage would have affected multiple race weekends over the years.

There were multiple issues with FOX’s graphics during the weekend (the same graphics on FOX’s broadcasts are also used throughout SPEED’s broadcasts in an attempt at synergy). Certain drivers would be skipped at times for no reason. Also, J.J. Yeley’s graphic in the scroll froze at one point while the other positions moved over his. Weird. That was a new one.

Finally, FOX completely screwed up the Top-5 graphic headed to the commercial on Lap 212. Instead of listed the correct top-5, it listed Jeff Gordon, and then a bunch of drivers who were either many laps down, or out of the race outright. Such a setup came off as quite low-rent. However, the current graphical package appears to be a work in progress.

Luckily, Joy was able to properly call the finish of the race without being cut off by Darrell. That’s good to see, but it seems to happen so rarely.

Because of the early crashes and the 14 minute red flag, FOX’s telecast was actually overtime once the checkers fell. Despite the overage, FOX still managed to provide a typical-sized post-race show with interviews with the first four finishers, along with checks of the unofficial results and point standings. Finally, there was some wrap-up analysis before FOX left the air (more or less sparing me from having to deal with Tim McCarver’s boring syndicated show).

FOX has some improvements to make in their coverage.

That’s all for this week. Next week, the Sprint Cup and Nationwide Series are back in action at Las Vegas Motor Speedway for the Kobalt Tools 400 and Sam’s Town 300, respectively. The Rolex Sports Car Series presented by Crown Royal Cask No. 16 is also back in action for their second race of the season, the Grand Prix of Miami from Homestead-Miami Speedway. Meanwhile, the Camping World Truck Series takes their first week off of the season. Here’s your listings for next weekend.

Friday, March 4

Time Telecast Network
12:00pm-1:30pm Nationwide Series Practice SPEED
1:30-3:00pm Nationwide Series Happy Hour SPEED
3:00-4:30pm Sprint Cup Series Practice SPEED
6:30-8:30pm Sprint Cup Series Qualifying SPEED

Saturday, March 5

Time Telecast Network
12:00pm-3:00pm Rolex Sports Car Series Grand Prix of Miami SPEED
2:30-3:00pm NASCAR Countdown ABC
3:00-6:00pm Nationwide Series Sam’s Town 300 ABC
6:00-7:30pm Sprint Cup Series Happy Hour SPEED

Sunday, March 6

Time Telecast Network
11:00am-12:00pm NASCAR Now, Pre-Race ESPN 2
12:00-12:30pm SPEED Center, Pre-Race SPEED
12:30-2:30pm NASCAR RaceDay Built by The Home Depot SPEED
2:30-3:00pm Fox Pre-Race Delivered by Pizza Hut FOX
3:00-6:30pm Sprint Cup Series Kobalt Tools 400 FOX
7:00-8:00pm SPEED Center, Post-Race SPEED
8:00-9:00pm NASCAR Victory Lane Fueled by Sunoco SPEED
9:00-10:00pm Wind Tunnel SPEED

The Sprint Cup and Nationwide Series races from Las Vegas will appear in next week’s critique here on Frontstretch. As for the Grand-Am event in Homestead will appear either in the regular critique or in the Critic’s Annex. Stay tuned.

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Chris
03/01/2011 12:32 AM
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I can’t understand what you have against the television coverage of the networks. As far as I’m concerned, FOX has the best commentators (particularly DW) and their post-race coverage has to be short because it’s a network and its affiliates want to start local newscasts ASAP. The same is true for ABC. And stop worrying about college games overlapping with NASCAR Countdown — it’s not the race itself and ESPN can afford to do a shortened prerace show. The important thing to note is that the broadcasters always stick to the top finishers and the big names. I mean, have you noticed CBS not even having postgame coverage after NFL games and PGA Tour events? It ends immediately at the final gun. (It should be noted that network wants to start 60 Minutes and primetime exactly at 7 pm ET — I noticed that last week, when the final round ran until about 6:45 pm ET.) And it is hard to get camera angles right. I pardon FOX for missing Andy Lally’s wall contact because that’s a driver few have heard of and as such little attention is focused on such a driver.

Bill B
03/01/2011 07:27 AM
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When watching a NASCAR race it is important to have a backup show on the remote’s “flashback”.

When they did the piece on Waltrip at the White Sox… flashback time. (Waltrip is still trying to force himself into relevance. He is an owner, no one really wants to see or hear that much from him).

When they did the long Subway promo before the start of the race,,,, flashback time.

When they flash the ridiculous Pizza Hut or UPS pointless graphics disguised as something meaningful…. flashback time.

I refuse to watch pointless crap. Surely, one of these companies could come up with a better idea that has true value to viewers if they must rob us of race time.

Bill Heffner
03/01/2011 11:27 AM
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I was a bit annoyed by the fact that apparently only one car crossed the finish line Sunday. What happened to the rest of the field after Jeff won?

Iowa Guy
03/01/2011 12:43 PM
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When oh when will DW stop that inane “Boogity Boogity Boogity? I’m sure a majority of fans have been sick of it for quite some time!

Johnboy60
03/01/2011 12:46 PM
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In My opinion DW AND JH need to go. Both are just full of themselves.If I could buy them for what they are worth and sell them for what they THINK they are worth I could give Donald Trump a run for his money!!

RamblinWreck
03/01/2011 01:21 PM
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I’ve never noticed a “Northeastern bias,” although Joey Logano has probably gotten a lot more press than he’s deserved in Cup. Truex only gets shown when he’s running pretty well, and I don’t think Craven, Park, or Nadeau ever got that much coverage.

Of course, an announcer is probably more likely to focus on a driver he’s seen race before and is therefore more familiar with.

Bob
03/01/2011 01:52 PM
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Maybe Mike Joy is the only one of the three that can read.

EZ
03/01/2011 02:42 PM
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Anyone who thinks DW is an outstanding broadcaster,is beyond help.
The race coverage is ruined if he’s involved,just becomes one very long commerical.

Jim
03/01/2011 03:13 PM
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DW and his silly gopher do not belong in these broadcasts. This is racing, not Sesame Street.

I’ve never really had a problem with Mike Joy, but he is making a few too many mistakes already. That said, he’s far better than Marty Reid on any Sunday. DW? Why he is so popular with the brass is beyond me. Maybe he works for peanuts.

The new Focks ticker is a sham. It is slow-moving and not updated with “time-behind” or lap-down cars often enough.

Joe
03/01/2011 04:29 PM
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I am waiting for the email that tells us of the renaming of the Waltrip Cup Series, Waltrip Truck Series and the Wallace Grand National Series. If the Walmouth Family Circus is to be the face of NASCAR on television, NASCAR needs to be prepared to see longtime customers walk away. Oh, wait.

Bob Chimento
03/01/2011 09:49 PM
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I have just one thing to offer…

TracPass cost just $79.00 a year and is only 2 to 3 seconds behind realtime TV and some times ahead…

Pick the drivers you want to follow and tune out the TV…

At least NASCAR gets this right…

Chris
03/01/2011 11:01 PM
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Just so everyone knows: I’m the same person who posted the first message at the top of the screen.

That having been said, it is an absolute disgrace you people even say harsh things about FOX’s coverage. This is really painful for me. FOX, plain and simple, has the right announcers – and Larry McReynolds, Darrell Waltrip, and Jeff Hammond all have numerous championships under their belts and they know more than you people are saying they do. You sound to me like you’re comparing these broadcasts to “The Last Airbender” (which was Worst Picture at this weekend’s Razzies). Let’s not be so critical about these broadcasts. This is a sport that needs announcers that get excited when big things happen, and Larry and Darrell are just that. These broadcasts have very decent camera angles and other than not showing debris on the lap 20 caution, this was not a bad telecast at all. Besides, the broadcast may not have enough vision to see the debris.

And Phil, just so you know, Darrell Waltrip’s “boogity boogity boogity” is without doubt the coolest catchphrase in NASCAR broadcasts. Are you just going to keep criticizing EVERYTHING on the broadcasts? FOX’s NASCAR telecasts have won several Sports Emmy Awards. That explain something? Other sports leagues don’t typically have significant postgame coverage. NASCAR broadcasts at least have at least 15 minutes worth of postrace interviews.

IF anyone sees this message and wants to comment, I hope to hear from you but please be nice and don’t use profanity. And Phil, in your critique next week, please let in on my comments because I can’t understand what is going on here.

Phil Allaway
03/02/2011 12:46 AM
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I can’t claim to have seen “The Last Airbender,” Chris (although, I did hear about the horrific reviews. Had a response to your earlier post written on here, but it didn’t post. So, here it goes. Be warned. This is pretty long.

I don’t know where you live, Chris, but Sunday’s race (at least where I am in Upstate NY) did not run up against the evening news. It ran up against syndicated programming that could easily be pre-empted. My FOX affiliate doesn’t have a 6pm newscast on Sundays. I can understand that it can be an issue later in the season, though.

With college games overlapping with pre-race shows (and sometimes, the race itself), I feel that it has to be mentioned. It happened. I know that type of a situation is outside of the control of ESPN. Games run long. It happens.

With FOX missing Lally’s incident late in the race, they should have come out and admitted that they didn’t have footage of Lally’s wall contact. Full disclosure. Just because Lally isn’t well known and he doesn’t drive for a big team doesn’t mean anything. That was an important turn of events in the race and FOX missed it and gave little explanation for why.

My main issue with Waltrip these days is that he appears to have a great deal of control over the proceedings. He’s the biggest name in the booth, even though he’s an analyst, and thus, does not (and should not) control a broadcast. That’s Mike Joy’s job.

Last week, I talked about Waltrip pulling “Cutsies” at the end of the Truck race on SPEED and on the last lap of the Daytona 500. Cutsies is the equivalent of budging in line. Race broadcasts are most definitely helped out by enthusiasm in the booth, but jumping all over your colleagues has the opposite effect.

The Boogity refrain seems to be something that Waltrip just came up with one day, and it happened to catch on (I guess). However, we’re in Year 11 now. It gets old after a while. Obviously, Waltrip’s excited at the beginning of races, and I want him to be. Honestly, since Waltrip has the copyright on his catchphrase, he can do whatever he wants with it. I’ve basically given up whining about it because its not like I can stop him from doing it.

Finally, the main issue that a lot of people have with Waltrip are the conflict of interests. The call of the Truck race in Daytona is just one example of it. It is perfectly understandable for Waltrip to want his brother to do well when he races. It is another thing altogether to blatantly cheer for him on live televsion.

Yes, Ned Jarrett’s call of his son Dale’s Daytona 500 victory in 1993 may be one of the most well known calls in the history of NASCAR, but Ned did Dale Earnhardt wrong by doing it that way, and he told Earnhardt that. Yes, Earnhardt admitted that he didn’t have a problem with what Ned did, but that is beside the point. Ned was in the wrong there. To his credit, he apologized. I don’t recall Darrell ever apologizing for that type of favoritism in the booth.

Even with what I have said here, I’m probably not as hard on Darrell as some other people are. When Darrell is on a roll, he is a pretty good analyst. However, these instances just keep happening from time to time.

Do I think I’m hard on NASCAR’s broadcast partners? To a point, yes. I want them to strive for excellence and not simply settle for mediocrity. If that means calling them out for errors, so be it. Do I make suggestions on how to improve the broadcasts when such a thing is possible? Yes, I do. I can only suggest so much since my background is not in television, but I want to help them improve. Do I heap praise on aspects of broadcasts? If I notice something I like, yes. If they’re doing something well, then they deserve praise.

In the time since I started critiquing broadcasts, I have seen marked improvement. The networks actually improving their product actually makes my column harder to write since there aren’t any many glaring errors. 2009, my first year critiquing, was pretty horrific at times. Digger was the bane of my existence that year. ESPN had their own issues. TNT was doing fine, then Bill Weber had his altercation (which we’re never going to find out what really happened that one night in Manchester, NH) and threw everything into flux. Finally, you had ESPN and their booth issues.

In closing, writers like myself, John Daly and others are basically charged with keeping NASCAR’s TV partners (and in my case, the Izod IndyCar Series’, Grand-Am, and whatever other series I feel like critiquing on that particular week) honest. Think of me as an ombudsman. I just don’t work for the Poynter Institute. I hope this helps you out, Chris. If you have any more questions, please use the contact form on the page to contact me directly via e-mail. Thank you, and have a good night.

Bobby O
03/02/2011 01:06 PM
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Phil, How in the world can you torture yourself by sitting through all the horrible TV coverage?
I find out when the green flag is scheduled, tune in at that time, and hit the mute button! But I do admire you for hearing all the drivel and not committing suicide!

Bobby O
03/02/2011 01:58 PM
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I do miss Benny Parsons and Bill Weber.
DW and HamBoneHead, well I guess calling them amateurs would be a compliment.
That said Nascar coverage has always been a bit quirky and lowbrow.

I do like the split screen so we see more racing than pit stops.

Bill B from above is correct. I have to replace remotes every race because the “last” button wears out!

Phil Allaway
03/02/2011 06:02 PM
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Bobby O, I gotta admit that even though I don’t like some aspects of the broadcasts, they aren’t torturous for me to watch. Besides, even if I wasn’t writing these critiques, I’d watch anyway. For the SMI races, I can’t listen on the radio because I’m too far away from a PRN affiliate. I only take advantage of MRN if I’m driving (its on an AM oldies station here that has fairly decent reach).

If I’m near a TV, I would rather watch a race than listen to it, no matter what the broadcast looks like. Although, after having watched some old broadcasts earlier this week, I’m happy that they have the amount of cameras at their disposal that they do today.

Bobby O
03/03/2011 12:00 AM
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Phil, I do have to agree with you on the number of cameras. And I guess the guy running the camera is very talented to keep it stuck on one car(zoomed in so close), and fill the complete frame with “one car”… But I can take a pic of a car “parked” and see the exact same thing! If it is a “motion picture” type of a camera? Should I not be able to see that a car is moving? and possibly very fast?
Nascar has lost TV ratings? Really?
Sorry, I know I am being negative, but, acting like children, or a bunch of guys hangin out drinkn beers… trying to announce a race? Really?

The childish crap? Are the people that watch, and buy stuff eight years old? That is what the boogity….. and Digger junk appeal to…..

I love racing at the very least as much as you! I grew up in Indianapolis, the whole month of May was nothing but racing news. I saw men die trying to qualify for the “Indy 500”.

Sorry, I guess I am a bitter old fart.

Bobby O
03/03/2011 12:16 AM
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And sorry I forgot..
I used to listen on MRN, (and just watch on mute) but now the stations have changed and I can’t get that either. Funny thing though, my girl friend thinks I should be announcing races and football because I say what is going on before the talking heads! I don’t put any stock in that! But it’s fun to think about! ;)