The Frontstretch: What's The Call: Are The Penalties Against Gordon And Johnson's Teams Too Severe? by Vito Pugliese And Kathy Grindle -- Wednesday June 27, 2007

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What's The Call: Are The Penalties Against Gordon And Johnson's Teams Too Severe?

Vito Pugliese And Kathy Grindle · Wednesday June 27, 2007

 

Editor’s Note : The following is a special edition of Frontstretch’s What’s the Call? Occasionally throughout the season, two of your favorite Frontstretch writers will duke it out in a debate concerning one of NASCAR’s big controversies. Don’t let us be the only ones to speak our minds, though…be sure to read both sides and let us know what you think about the situation in the comment section below!

Today’s Question : Earlier this week, NASCAR came down hard on the No. 24 and No. 48 teams for failing pre-race inspection at Infineon Raceway. Due to fenders that fell outside Car Of Tomorrow specifications, the following penalties were given out:

- Crew chiefs Chad Knaus (No. 48) and Steve LeTarte (No. 24) were suspended six weeks and fined $100,000 – Both Gordon and Johnson lost 100 driver points – Both teams lost 100 car owner points – Knaus and LeTarte were placed on probation for the rest of the season

Without question, these are some of the toughest consequences given out in recent NASCAR history. With that in mind, did the sport come down too hard on this one? Or did both teams get exactly what they deserved for breaking the rules?

NASCAR: Barney Fife And Roscoe All Rolled Into One
Vito Pugliese

I bet Jeff Gordon is glad he hopped on that plane and left his wife and 24-hour-old daughter this past weekend to fly to Sonoma. In hindsight, he could have easily let Mark Martin push his car through tech inspection in time to receive Hendrick Motorsports 100-point fine, $100,000 invoice, and Steve LeTarte’s 6-week holiday.

Since when did NASCAR become Roscoe P. Coltrane, issuing ridiculously inflated citations for racers simply trying to do their job? Gordon’s team didn't get caught with a big engine, doctored tires, illegal fuel, or God forbid, duct tape by the oil tank. Instead, they had massaged the left front fenders of their DuPont Chevrolet a little too much, in an area they were once permitted to actually have some sort of input into their car.

Nope, Gordon’s team guessed wrong, as did teammate Jimmie Johnson and the crew of his No. 48 Lowe's Chevrolet. Now, the two most dominant drivers this season are entering the “meat” of the summer schedule without their crew chiefs. While most people that do not have a No. 24 or No. 48 sticker on their cars agree they should all be shipped off to some long-forgotten Eastern Bloc gulag for their transgressions, I’m a little more forgiving. To me, this is yet another example of NASCAR issuing the death penalty… for shoplifting.

Come back in time with me as we drop the pretense and remember the roots of what NASCAR was built on: Moonshiners running illegal whiskey, trying to outfox the revenuers and Federal Agents in hot pursuit. In essence, that's what’s been happening in the NASCAR garage ever since it opened in 1948: mechanics building cars to the cutting edge, finding every loophole in order to get the most speed they can out of their race cars.

This year, that all changed. What once would have been considered a minor infraction, at the most incurring a relatively small monetary fine and NASCAR placing the team's trick parts on display for all other competitors to see, warrants a fine that nearly equals disqualification from an event, all in the name of “leveling the playing field.”

And apparently, that now includes cars that had never actually been in competition!

NASCAR's reasoning seems to be that no one should be allowed to touch or alter the Car of Tomorrow. Um, keep it up guys and no one is going to want to watch the Car of Tomorrow. What is the point of attracting and training the best and brightest minds in engineering if all they're allowed to do is slap some decals on the side of the cars?

In yet another vain attempt to become like "other" sports, NASCAR is going out of its way to fine and punish what once was considered a primary objective. Mounting bolts on a wing is not a corked bat, and tweaked front fenders are not 22" human growth hormone / steroid-enhanced biceps. But to the non-NASCAR versed public, that is precisely what this looks to be.

"Wow, being sent home for almost TWO MONTHS….they must have really done it this time!"

Uh, no. They were doing their jobs.

This is unfortunate for the sport, because they cast the sport, sponsors, and competitors in an unflattering light every time this happens. These are no longer good ‘ol boys from modest blue-collar roots; now they're a collection of untrustworthy never-do-wells, trying to skirt the rules to gain an unfair advantage.

Last I checked, this isn’t Pac Man Jones making it rain inside a strip club the night before his meeting with the NFL commissioner. This isn't Barry Bonds mistaking "The Clear" for Flax Seed Oil. Heck, this isn't even Kenny Rogers with some yellow gunk on his hand in the World Series. These are competitors working inside the gray area – an area that once existed to allow fabrication, engineering, experimenting, and ingenuity among men who may not have what it takes behind the steering wheel, but behind an English Wheel, a wrench, or a welder, they're untouchable.

NASCAR constantly says that it will not let its premiere division become a spec series, like what IROC or ASA devolved into. But with Johnny Benson testing a spec motor at Martinsville earlier this week, that is exactly what this series is becoming. Along with Rockingham, Big-Blocks, and brand identity, mechanical ingenuity seems as if it, too, will soon become a thing of the past.

The best part of all this madness is that NASCAR’s opinion seems to change with each passing day. On Wednesday, Series Director John Darby said that had the exact same incident occurred two weeks ago at Michigan with the current car, there would have been NO fine, and NASCAR just would have made both cars re-contour the fenders and run them back through tech.

What set of Wild E. Coyote Acme-supplied blueprints is NASCAR working off of?

First, they institute a rear end gear rule. Then, you can't test except at mandatory sessions. Then, you can't even buy tires. Now, you can't work on the body of the car? Pretty soon, there will be a mass exodus of unemployed fabricators and body men leaving Mooresville resembling another closed Michigan automotive factory. Do you really want guys like me being able to work on these cars? I stripped out the drain plug and crankcase on my dirt bike once just trying to change the oil in it. I am clearly unqualified to do much beyond that. With the direction NASCAR is going, and if this writing thing doesn't pan out, I'm taking my toolbox with me and heading West.

I mean South.

See, I'm already lost with all of this.

NASCAR Penalties Not Too Harsh For Hendrick
Kathy Grindle

There’s no reason to complain about the penalty handed down to the No. 24 and No. 48 teams; in the end, the heavy hand coming down from the NASCAR brass couldn’t be more justified. These teams broke the new golden CoT rule of “don’t mess with our design,” and the sport’s simply doing its duty in ensuring that every organization is following the rules.

When you read the short version of the statement handed down from NASCAR, it clearly states that Hendrick did anything but follow instructions. Both teams made changes to their cars that were not approved by NASCAR to “enhance aerodynamic performance.” In other words, they tweaked them to make the cars faster; there’s no clearer way to describe the teams did something illegal.

Last Friday at Infineon, when the alterations were discovered, talks of penalties began spreading like wildfire. Almost immediately, comparisons were made to Dale Earnhardt, Jr.‘s situation from a few weeks earlier. In that case, when the rear wing of his CoT was found to be illegal, his crew chief Tony Eury Jr. was fined $100K and suspended for six weeks, Junior lost 100 driver points, and the team lost 100 owner points.

But team owner Rick Hendrick tried to make it sound like this case was different. In his view, he claimed the violations were no big deal, and that NASCAR shouldn’t penalize his teams that harshly.

“We’ll have to see what the penalty is, but I don’t think the penalty fits the crime in this case when you’re talking about the top of a fender or the side of a fender,” Hendrick said. “I don’t see it as a situation where you had a certified part and it’s been altered or anything like that.”

What makes that comment so amusing is it contradicts something straight out of NASCAR’s famous rulebook.

“Section 20-2H – Fenders may not be cut or altered except for wheel or tire clearance, which must be approved by the Series Director.”

The rules just don’t get more clear than that. There’s no gray area, as many complaints from the busted teams throughout the weekend claimed. The fenders were altered, and the teams aren’t denying they were trying to gain an advantage; they’re just trying to make it sound like it was OK that they tried.

“I don’t necessarily say they bent the rules,” Hendrick said. “They thought they were working inside of an area they thought they could. The fenders on the car are sitting out there in front of God and everybody. If you’re going to try to do something to gain an advantage, you wouldn’t do it and roll it through inspection.”

Sure, Mr. Hendrick. So are we to believe that your team would never consider cheating? Knaus has cheated more times than a person can count on one hand throughout his career. In fact, he’s been penalized at least seven times for violations this decade; that’s not exactly a stellar record on which to build a solid reputation. Why should we believe this was an honest to goodness mistake?

The race fans who spend their good, hard-earned money to go to races should slap Mr. Hendrick with a penalty of their own for thinking that NASCAR and its fans are dumb enough to believe those words.

One of the major reasons for the development of the CoT, outside of safety, was to make the competition in racing more about driver skill than engineering technology. With that in mind, NASCAR has increased its typical penalties for the CoT when compared with those that were traditionally handed out with the old car, because they want to make their point loud and clear – don’t mess with a vehicle that tilts the balance back in the driver’s hands.

That’s exactly why rules like Section 20-2H exist, and it’s time for all of the teams to realize that when those rules are blatantly broken, they will most likely get caught…and should be ready to accept their punishment.

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Mike
06/28/2007 06:51 AM
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I think they got off easy. If NASCAR really wanted to get their point across about the unapproved modifications (commonly referred to as cheating), they’d have confiscated the cars, fined the team owner, and made the whole team, driver included, sit at home for 6 weeks. That would’ve put everyone in the garage on notice. But that didn’t happen. NASCAR has to “protect” the sponsors to keep their bank accounts from losing any revenue.

Vito Pugliese FS-Staff
06/28/2007 07:34 AM
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...from something found in pre-QUALIFYING inspection? That still seems beyond harsh to me. The spirit of the sport is being erroded in an effort to “contain costs”...which typically results in their sky-rocketing.

Douglas
06/28/2007 08:06 AM
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PENALTIES FOR CARS THAT MET NASCAR SPECIFICATIONS & TEMPLATES?

Do I understand correctly that NASCAR’s rule books are written in PENCIL? (only their rule books anyway)!

NASCAR IS NOW A “SHAM” OF A SPORT!

Kay
06/28/2007 08:27 AM
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NASCAR might as well build 43 cars and hand them out on Fridays, just like the wings. They are throwing out penalties to guys that are just doing their jobs. Way to go NASCAR- just another example of “my way or no way”

Ron
06/28/2007 08:38 AM
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Nascar certifies the chassis. They dictate every square inch of the body panels. Neither one can be altered. But Nascar claims they are not becoming a spec. series. Ridiculous. It would also seem to me that Nascar would be concerned with the 19.1 gallons of fuel that fit into Jimmie’s 18 1/2 gallon fuel cell than a massaged fender.

Amy
06/28/2007 08:43 AM
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Interesting point, Vito, about Mark Martin. Imagine the fan backlash if he’s been the one docked 100 driver points for the violation? Darby and Company would have to go into hiding…

Skip
06/28/2007 08:43 AM
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Vito: You’re nuts. This was absolutely a meaningless wrist slap. 100 points? Unless you’re one of the six teams that’s near the cutoff for the chase or the top 35 bubble its meaningless. $100k? Hendrick pays that with pocket change. 6 week “suspension”? It’s a strange sport where suspended guys can participate in everything but the game. The only part of this that had any bite at all was the probation, because now the teams are on notice that they used up their one free cheating incident for the year.

If NASCAR had wanted to make the punishments actually hurt, they’d make the points penalty activate in the standings after the chase starts.

So now the only question in my mind is whether or not they’ve been cheating every week leading up to this, but just now bent it out to the point where NASCAR had to step in and slap them down.

Travis Rassat
06/28/2007 08:48 AM
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I personally feel that teams should be able to explore the gray area – racing used to be about innovation and pushing the boundaries. Vito’s right – the spirit of the sport is being eroded. If they really want to contain costs, perhaps they need to limit how much teams can accept from sponsors in a year?

chris
06/28/2007 09:30 AM
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I think the penalties (in the case of Knaus especially) is justified and backed up by every previous instance of rules enforcement this year. I do agree with what Ray Evernham said at Daytona: There should be some sort of process where they can get their car tested in a penalty-free environment…but currently that environment does not exist. Perhaps pre-qual inspection should be that environment…that sounds reasonable to me, but that is currently not the case.

I posted a similar comment on MD (I apologize in advance for posting similar comments twice) but the notion that the Template = Rules is false. Darrell Waltrip’s article on FoxSports was horrible and promoted lots of disinformation. Thankfully, Larry Mac’s article tried to counter some of that with actual facts and stuff. The template is just a step in the inspection process. It is not the rulebook. The space “in between” the templates is not fair game. The dimensions for the entire body panels were provided to the teams (in CAD files), and the #24 and #48 teams chose to alter the designs.

Darby may have said there’d have been no penalty on the “old” car for a violation found in pre-qual inspection…but that is where the #19 and #10 were penalized at Daytona for the rear deck bolts. (that passed inspection 4x last year i’d like to add…)

Ed
06/28/2007 11:34 AM
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My reponse is the same as to MD. Of course they didn’t go too far. Hendrick’s, (aka convicted felon) teams are perennial cheaters. They have been caught and their hands slapped so many times that they could care less. They know that the richest team in NASCAR will not be heavily penalized because of the money involved. The crew chiefs will continue to work undercover and the research and development, i.e. cheating will continue until teams are sent home. Just banning such a team from qualifying means absolutely nothing. a few hundred thousand dollars means nothing to Hendrick and neither do the driver points. As someabove said, it’s a all a sham. I think WCW scripting is become more of a possibility every day.

Travis Rassat
06/28/2007 12:35 PM
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Here’s a question for everybody here – if teams can’t alter the body at all, will this make windtunnel testing obsolete? Haas is building their $40 million rolling wind tunnel, but will any of the NASCAR guys be using it?

Craig
06/28/2007 02:12 PM
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I can’t believe that everyone keeps on with this false belief that the fender issue was in a “gray” area.
When it comes to the COT there is no “grey” area.

when it came out, all the teams were supplied with a computer disc with complete CAD drawings of the entire car.
There are no “grey” areas with a complete CAD drawing. Every square inch and minute detail of that car is laid out for you.
I think the Hendrik organization has a computer around somewhere they could view this disc and drawings on.

When the teams first submitted their first COT to the NASCAR R&D center at the begining of the year, they were gone over with a fine tooth comb and when approved, the teams were told this is they way they all should be made, no exceptions.

The template just checks the car as much as they can given the time they have to check 50+ cars in a day. they are not the be all and end all.

the Hendricks guys touched the hot stove they were told not to and got burnt, Plain and simple

Vito Pugliese FS-Staff
06/28/2007 02:50 PM
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It is still a piece of metal that needs to be formed with human hands and metal working tools. It is a gray area in that there is no template assigned to it. If it’s so vitaly important, make a template for it. They already have one that goes over the ENTIRE car. But a few square inches of fender they didn’t build one. Oh, okay. I guess they assumed that since there was no template for it, everyone would just get some stamped fender pieces from somewhere and bolt it together like an erector set. Again, it is simply degenerating into a spec racer series if no freedom is allowed by the teams to do much to these cars, and even more money and R&D will need to be performed to find speed elsewhere, further escalating costs.

This raises another question in my mind. Why waste everyone’s time with an entirely new car? Why not just use the exisiting car, and use the non-offset positioning of the body that the COT employs? Move the seat over, slightly enlarge the greenhouse, and install the foam padding….you have a COT for a fraction of the cost.

Oh what do I know. I live by Lake Michigan, not the Atlantic Ocean.

John Harlan
06/28/2007 03:29 PM
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The Dukes of Hazard wouldn’t have been as good a show without Roscoe – I think the same applies to NASCAR. For this humble fan, watching the drama between the crew chiefs and the no nonsense inspectors is part of the show. To me, there was no bad guy – Letarte and Knaus weren’t bad guys for pushing the limits, and neither was NASCAR for enforcing the rules.

I don’t think NASCAR should look the other way if they find an infraction, and I don’t think crew chiefs should stop looking for ways to make their cars faster. Just like watching the Duke boys drive around aimlessly on dirt roads with no Roscoe would have been a boring show, watching unchecked Hendricks boys bend every rule and win every race would also get old quick.

Now if we could just find a way to work in a modern day Daisy ….

Joe
06/28/2007 03:44 PM
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yaknow im a huge fan of Smokey Yunick Robin Pemberton and all those kinda guys who did things to gain an advantage (person favorite is the steel ball bearings in the roll cage of DW’s car, hilarious)

but that was almost like eons ago that bending the rules was looked at like “eh, atleast hes creative”

now its like “NO! NO CREATIVENESS!!!”

then this stupid COT thing comes out and NASCAR says no you cant touch it so what do you do? wait till we become IROC? theyre already testing a spec engine in the truck series

as far as HMS “cheating” the only question is “is what they did in the rule book” if its spelled out in the book (which is really just a chalkboard in King Brians office) then you cheated, and pay the piper if not then youve got grounds for an appeal..and since Rick isnt going to appeal im going to assume he was in the wrong

as far as being to harsh its exactly what they hit Dale Jr with so theres no room to even debate this

a bigger debate should be why did NASCAR park Musgrave and not that whiney punk Kurt Busch..

Lynnsy
06/28/2007 04:02 PM
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I think Kathy explained this very well. RULES are RULES. And let’s assume they really didn’t know they were breaking any rules, then they are negligent of not KNOWING the rules. I can’t drive 70 mph in a 55 mph zone and tell the police officer I thought the speed limit was 70 and have him tell me it’s ok then. As long as I didn’t know the speed limit. I also want to comment on what Skip said about making you wonder how long they’ve been cheating up to this point. That was the first thing that went through my mind also. And also what chris said about DW’s article on FOX Sports. I read that also and I really don’t know a lot about the inspection process and procedures but that just didn’t sound right to me. I can’t see NASCAR leaving any area fair game when they are so picky about other things. I’ll have to look up Larry’s article!!

Marc
06/28/2007 09:20 PM
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As Gomer Pyle would say, GO-OO-Lee. This would be simple. If the car is outside of regs, fix the car. If you can’t fix the car, don’t race. NASCAR was built by Big Bill France from a bunch of old moonshiners who built cars to run fast. They didn’t care about rules. This COT is a joke. It should be scrapped for the showroom model. I would really like to see Ford run a fusion or Dodge that box they call a car. It should be about engine, handling and innovation. AND GUTS ENOUGH to stick it in there.

Spencer Mims
06/29/2007 12:27 PM
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Basically, I see it like this: As long as the France family operates NASCAR as a dictatorship, the rules, fines, etc., will continue to be incosistent according to their own personal whims. In the end, the sport will suffer and the goose that laid the golden egg will be dead.

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