Kurt Busch to Attempt The Indianapolis-Charlotte Double
posted by Phil Allaway
Tuesday March 4, 2014
Andretti Autosport announced this morning that Kurt Busch, driver of the No. 41 Haas Automation Chevrolet in the Sprint Cup Series, will attempt the Indianapolis 500 in a fifth entry for the IndyCar Series team. Once the Indianapolis 500 is completed, Busch will fly from Indianapolis to Charlotte, jump in his No. 41 Chevrolet and compete in the Coca-Cola 600 at Charlotte Motor Speedway.
Busch considers the opportunity to do the double as an old-school throwback moment.
“This is really to challenge myself within motorsports,” Busch said in Andretti Autosport’s press release. “Perhaps I am a bit of an old-school racer; a throwback, I guess. I enjoyed the era of drivers racing different cars and testing themselves in other series. It is tough to do now for a variety of factors, but when the opportunity is there, I want to do it. While NASCAR is my home, I have been fortunate to compete in Pro Stock on the NHRA circuit a number of years ago and test a V8 Supercar. This opportunity was a talk with Michael [Andretti] over dinner one night, a “What if,” and now it’s becoming a reality for me to drive in the Indy 500 with Andretti Autosport. It’s literally a dream come true. To go to the famous Brickyard with the iconic Andretti name, it doesn’t get much cooler or better than that.”
Busch will be doing the Indianapolis-Charlotte double as a Memorial Day mission to men and women serving in the U.S. Military via the Armed Forces Foundation. Fans can contribute to the cause by texting AFF to 50555 to donate $10.
Busch, who has never raced an IndyCar, passed Rookie Orientation at the Indianapolis Motor Speedway last year during a test session. At the time, Busch was more or less testing the Dallara DW12 for fun.
Busch will be the fourth driver to attempt the Indianapolis-Charlotte double. John Andretti was the first driver to attempt it in 1994. After finishing four laps down in tenth in Indianapolis, Andretti crashed and had engine problems in the 600. Robby Gordon has attempted the double five times, most recently in 2004. However, Gordon failed to make it to Charlotte on time and did not start the 600 in 2000 (P.J. Jones started Gordon’s No. 13 Ford in that instance). Finally, Tony Stewart has attempted the double twice (most recently in 2001) and is the only driver to ever complete all 1100 miles. Neither of the three drivers has won either leg of the double. The best finishes are Stewart and Gordon’s sixth-place finishes at the Indianapolis 500 (although Gordon’s came in 2000, the year he didn’t make it to Charlotte in time to start the Coca-Cola 600), and Stewart’s fourth-place finish in the 2001 Coca-Cola 600.
Danica Patrick, Justin Allgaier Talk About Phoenix Incident
posted by Frontstretch Staff
Tuesday March 4, 2014
A disappointing start to the year for Danica Patrick won’t include continued conflict. Patrick met with rookie Justin Allgaier Sunday, shortly after the Phoenix Cup race after a wreck ruined both drivers’ days. Patrick, who was critical of the No. 51 car on the radio, claiming Allgaier was “driving all over the track” appeared receptive to a conversation that quickly settled differences over what will be a long season.
“She was just upset because she got involved in the crash that we had,’’ said Allgaier to the Motor Racing Network. “She says she’s been through this and that she felt like I needed to settle down at that point. I explained my position on why everything happened. I think she understood where I was coming from. It doesn’t fix either one of our racecars. It doesn’t fix either one of our days. Unfortunately, we were both having pretty decent days.’’
Allgaier wound up 30th due to the incident while Patrick was 36th. The incident, which was caused by Allgaier’s spin also involved the No. 32 team and Travis Kvapil, which wound up 38th after sustaining heavy damage.
Camping World Close to Extending Title Sponsorship of NCWTS
posted by Frontstretch Staff
Tuesday March 4, 2014
Marcus Lemonis, CEO of Camping World, Grand Marshal of Sunday’s Sprint Cup race at Phoenix International Raceway, and star of CNBC’s “The Profit,” made the announcement over the weekend that the retailer is very close to announcing a deal that would continue its title sponsorship of NASCAR’s Truck Series. The original agreement with NASCAR is scheduled to conclude after the 2015 season.
According to the sanctioning body, no formal contract has been signed, but “the agreement between the two parties has proven to be a beneficial one.”
“In about a month, we’ll be announcing a significant extension to that contract. It’s been great for us,” said Camping World’s Lemonis in a statement. “The NASCAR relationship has worked well for Camping World. When we started, we had 35 stores. Now, we’re up to 120 stores. As we travel the country and we meet new customers in stores, they always are very appreciative of our relationship with NASCAR. It’s been good.”
Gaining a long-term commitment from Camping World to sponsor the Truck Series would be a relief for NASCAR, which is set to lose Nationwide Insurance as title sponsor for the NASCAR Nationwide Series at the end of the 2014 season. The sponsorship of the Cup Series by Sprint runs through 2016.
The NCWTS is back in action on March 29th at 2:30 PM (ET) when the trucks visit Martinsville Speedway in the Kroger 250, which can be seen on Fox Sports 1. Ratings for the season opener were up 11 percent.
Harvick Takes Win At Phoenix In Second Race With New Team
posted by Justin Tucker
Tuesday March 4, 2014
Phoenix International Raceway has become Kevin Harvick’s home away from home. Sunday Afternoon was no exception as Harvick charged to the front early and would dominate for much of the day, leading 224 of the scheduled 312 laps to record his record fifth win on the one mile oval and his third win in the last four races at Phoenix.
Harvick, coming off of a disappointing Speedweeks which was capped by a last lap crash in the Daytona 500 in his debut with Stewart-Haas Racing, set the tone on Saturday by winning both practices while having the best 5 and 10-lap averages in the first practice of the day on Saturday. On Sunday, Harvick and his No. 4 Jimmy John’s Chevrolet was nothing short of flawless as he was able to hold Dale Earnhardt, Jr. by .489 seconds after a late race restart to claim his 24th career Sprint Cup Series victory.
“Man, this is awesome,” Harvick said after his dominant victory on Sunday. “Man, this just solidifies so many things and so many decisions. It’s been so much work with all the time and effort that these guys (the crew) have put in—but what a race car.”
Stewart Haas Racing co-owner Gene Haas shared in Harvick’s excitement after the race.
“It took long enough,” Haas joked. “This is phenomenal. I think there was a lot of skepticism last year about what myself and Tony (Stewart) what we were up to, was there a lot of madness to this. Quite frankly, it’s a great team, there’s a lot of synergy at the shop, people working together. I don’t know what we did, but I think we put together a great organization.”
Daytona 500 winner Dale Earnhardt, Jr. continued his hot start to the 2014 season. Earnhardt Jr. would finish second on Sunday, marking his seventh consecutive top 10 finish since the end of the 2013 season. Earnhardt Jr. was pleased with the effort after a coast-to-coast whirlwind week after winning his second Daytona 500 and also gave great praise to the efforts of Harvick and the No. 4 team.
“I’ve got to congratulate Kevin. Those guys were two-tenths faster than everyone all weekend in practice. They were just phenomenal,” Earnhardt said. “To be able to run with them all day was a big confidence builder for us.”
Joining Harvick and Earnhardt in the top 5 of The Profit on CNBC 500K were Brad Keselowski with his second consecutive top 3 run of 2014 in third. Keselowski’s Team Penske teammate Joey Logano would finish fourth, and Jeff Gordon would come home fifth in his No. 24 Pepsi Max Chevrolet.
Jimmie Johnson finished in sixth, followed by Ryan Newman with a nice rebound after Daytona in seventh. Carl Edwards would carry the banner for Roush Fenway Racing by finishing eighth, Kyle Busch was ninth, and Jamie McMurray would finish tenth.
A look at the Profit on CNBC 500K by the numbers. There were 14 lead changes among eight different drivers, there were eight cautions for 39 laps which slowed the race pace to 109.229 MPH.
Next Sunday, the Sprint Cup Series heads to Sin City and the Las Vegas Motor
Starting Lineup: The Profit On CNBC 500K
posted by Thomas Bowles
Saturday March 1, 2014
Drivers in RED (i) are those ineligible to collect Sprint Cup points
Daytona 500 TV Ratings Down
posted by Frontstretch Staff
Wednesday February 26, 2014
What was the longest weather delay in Daytona 500 history turned out to bring NASCAR lower ratings and TV viewership Sunday night than expected. According to a report Monday from FOX Sports, the 56th running of the Daytona 500 airing at 8 PM (ET) posted a 5.6/10 national household rating/share which averaged 9.3 million viewers. That’s down 44 percent from last year’s 9.9, easily making it the least-watched Daytona 500 of all-time.
Due to the six-hour, twenty-two minute rain delay in Daytona, the race was up against the primetime coverage of the Winter Olympics Closing Ceremony from Sochi, Russia on NBC (15.25 million viewers). FOX also reported that 69% of the pre-rain delay viewers of the race, which began at 1 PM (ET) kept tuning in.
In comparison, the 2013 Daytona 500 on FOX was the most-watched race in five years, posting a 9.9/22 rating/share, commanding 16.7 million viewers. The Daytona 500 in 2012, the first to ever be run on a Monday and in the primetime slot did a 7.7/13 overnight rating/share which resulted in 13.67 million households viewing the race according to Nielsen TV ratings data.
Earnhardt, Jr. Claims Second Daytona 500 Victory
posted by Justin Tucker
Wednesday February 26, 2014
Ten years is a long time. For Dale Earnhardt, Jr., it felt like an eternity. NASCAR’s Most Popular Driver endured many near misses and close calls at the Daytona 500 since his only win in the Great American Race in 2004. Earnhardt had finished second in two of his last three Daytona 500s coming into Sunday’s race. He was also riding the tail of a 55-race winless streak, dating back to Michigan in 2012.
However nothing would stop Dale Jr. on Sunday, not even a 6 hour and 22 minute rain delay from capturing his second Daytona 500 win. Earnhardt Jr. led a race-high 54 laps on the evening and used some timely drafting help from teammates Jimmie Johnson and, on the final restart, Jeff Gordon to separate from the pack and secure the victory.
“Winning this race is the greatest feeling that you could feel in this sport besides accepting the trophy for the championship,” said a jubilant Earnhardt after pulling into Victory Lane. “We could fight off battle after battle. We got a little help at the end there from Jeff to get away on the restart. This is amazing. I can’t believe this is happening. I never take this for granted, man because it doesn’t happen twice, let alone once.”
Aside from the race itself the big story of the race was the 6 hour and 22 minute red flag, which threatened to move the race to Monday evening (had the race been postponed, FOX Sports’ Chris Myers had tweeted that the race would resume at 5:00pm EST). However, Mother Nature would cooperate and would allow the race to be run under different conditions from which they practiced this week. Once the race resumed, the intensity picked up from the changing track conditions. This allowed the pack to race side-by-side and at times 3-wide up to seven rows deep.
Joining Earnhardt Jr. in the top 5 for the 2014 Daytona 500 were: Denny Hamlin who closed out a spectacular Speedweeks in second, Brad Keselowski in third, Jeff Gordon in fourth, and Jimmie Johnson who overcome two wrecks leading up to the 500 in fifth.
Rounding out the top 10 in the Daytona 500 were Matt Kenseth in sixth, Ricky Stenhouse, Jr. in seventh and Greg Biffle would bring his No. 16 Ford home in eighth. Austin Dillon would come home ninth in his first Cup Series race in the iconic No. 3 for Richard Childress Racing, while Casey Mears would round out the top 10.
A couple of major contenders for the Daytona 500 win would see their hopes dashed early on as Martin Truex, Jr. would blow up just 30 laps into the race, relegating him to a 43rd-place finish in his debut for Furniture Row Racing. Crew chief Todd Berrier was already in Nashville for a test session before the race was even over. Kyle Busch, meanwhile would have a pit road violation just before halfway and would spend much of the race battling back from that mistake. Busch would eventually finish 19th after leading 19 laps.
Danica Patrick would also be bit by bad luck as she was caught up in a multi-car wreck on lap 145. Patrick would lead her second consecutive Daytona 500, but wouldn’t have the finish to show for it finishing 40th. Tony Stewart would encounter a frustrating evening as well, with a fuel pickup problem derailing his quest for his first Daytona 500 win. Stewart would finish 35th.
A look at the Daytona 500 by the numbers. There were 42 lead changes among 18 drivers, while seven cautions for 39 laps would slow the race pace to 145.290 MPH.
Next week, the Sprint Cup Series heads to the “diamond in the desert,” Phoenix International Raceway for The Profit on CNBC 500K. The Green flag is scheduled for 3:15pm EST.
Nationwide Series Post-Race Quotes: Drive4COPD 300
posted by Thomas Bowles
Tuesday February 25, 2014
Frontstretch Interviews – Courtesy Mike Neff
ELLIOTT SADLER – FINISHED 4th
Thoughts on the race?
It’s definitely a lot different racing than what we’re used to.
Comfortable with it?
Yeah, it’s just different. You’re worried about what you’re doing, but you’re also worried about what everyone else is doing and they’re not doing more than you’re doing. Physically pushing a guy is way better than just riding so you just gotta time it right and push it to the edge.
Happy to start the year with a top 5?
Yeah. Hell, that was the worst we ran all day, I think. I have no idea how they put the 3 car in front of us on that last restart. I hadn’t seen the 3 car hardly all day. When they put us from fifth to sixth, on the outside line, it just really boxed us in. I would have really restarted behind my teammate and given him a good push to the front. Anyways, it is what it is; we’ll take it and move on.
Looked like you were up front all day.
The guys did a good job. We had a fast race car. Great pit stops, just really proud of these guys. The car’s in one piece and we can take it to Talladega now. Great job by my guys. A lot of effort came into coming down here to Daytona and giving ourselves a shot to win. We had that chance to be up front and make some things happen. Fifth is not what we want, but we’ll take it and move on.
Bumping vs Pushing?
It’s way harder. You don’t want to lay on the guy in front of you, so it’s tough racing. A lot different than what we’re used to, ‘cause you gotta go. You gotta drag the brake too ‘cause you don’t want to hit the guys and you don’t want to stay on him. It’s a lot harder mentally than what we’ve done in the past.
Car was strong all day. Pushing vs. Bumping, is that harder to do than just getting on somebody and pushing them?
Yeah, it is a little bit. When you bump ‘em, you jar ‘em, it kinda jacks ‘em a little bit. It’s a little more abrupt, obviously. I thought it was OK there at the end. It was certainly fun and hopefully entertaining. But a little bit of a struggle in the early part of the race and the midpart of the race to see a good race. And that’s unfortunate for the fans. You can’t do that the whole race, you can’t tear up your stuff, knock your grill in, overheat your motor, all that stuff so there’s no sense in doing all that until you get down to the last lap. The 7 and the 6, they did a good job. Man, the 7 really held the 22 and I tight on the bottom. I was rubbing his door and hitting the apron at the same time, no room whatsoever. So it was good; wish we were the ones who could have won but a lot better now than what we were last year.
Going home in one piece makes it a lot better, right?
Yeah. My back feels good. My foot feels good. Past years here, I’ve been going home with pain so I’m alright.
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2014 Truck Series Post-Race Quotes: Daytona (Exclusives)
posted by Thomas Bowles
Saturday February 22, 2014
When you’re on the outside like that, how frustrating is it?
It’s so hard. Timothy Peters has won here. Kyle Busch has won everywhere. Ron Hornaday has been running Trucks forever, probably before I was even born. I was surrounded by veterans there, and like I told them I don’t have a rookie stripe but I’m a rookie. This is only my fourth Truck race ever, my fourth superspeedway race, and man, I figured out when the 17 got up in front of me, I pushed him. And as soon as I pushed him, he took off. And I went with him. And I just kept doing it, and before I knew it, he was leading. And I saw Ron in my mirror, backed up to him, and if it wasn’t for him, I don’t know what would have happened. I gotta thank him big time for that. That was a true teammate move right there. I really appreciate that. He just bounced off me and we got to the front. I tried my hardest to sidedraft Kyle. I was probably touching his door.
Top 5 in the No. 30 truck. This deal come together at the last minute, but you had a heck of a truck. Tell us about your night.
Yeah, I’ve got to thank Turner Scott Motorsports. The guys worked so hard on this Rheem Comfort Products Chevrolet. Exciting! Just got hung up on the outside and had to wait for my teammate there to catch up. And then he got to the bottom, so… I got the old 32 and started pushing ol’ Ryan to the front. So, it’s not bad. We’ll take it. You just don’t want to step over that boundary. You don’t know how far to push and shove. We bumped about six times down the straightaway without latching onto them. Hopefully, that was OK and we came home with a top 5.
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2014 Budweiser Duels Post Race Quotes
posted by Matt Stallknecht
Friday February 21, 2014
BUDWEISER DUELS POST-RACE QUOTES
They’re saying the wheel bearing burned up in it. I don’t know what caused it, they’re taking it all apart to figure out what the heck happened. Something abnormal that’s for sure I don’t think I’ve ever had that happen at all. Hopefully, we made the race and hopefully we can fix the problem before Sunday.
WHAT WAS THAT LOUD BOOM ONCE YOU TURNED INTO THE GARAGE?
Loud pop was a tire… thankfully, it popped, hopefully it didn’t hurt anybody. All the heat created in the left front that popped was pretty weird.
REALLY GOOD RUN. WHAT DID YOU THINK OF IT?
Yeah, it was good. We have a car we can work with for the 500. Got a good starting spot, so we’re going to rest easy, fluff and buff our car for a couple of days and get ready for Sunday.
ANY DIFFERENCE ON WHETHER THE TOP OR BOTTOM LANE WORKED?
Yeah, I was just moving around, trying to stay with the flow. For me, this car works on all parts of the racetrack. So I’m pretty happy with it.
DALE EARNHARDT, JR.
GOT SHUFFLED BACK, AFTER PIT STOPS AND THEN COULDN’T GET BACK UP TO THE FRONT. WHY?
Nah, we were just sitting there waiting until the last few laps to make a move. You didn’t want to pull down and get sent to the back. Seen a couple of guys get sent to the back really quick so we were just kind of waiting for the end. I felt like we had a good situation there with Ambrose behind us — we had a good run off Turn 2 and I went. It was the last lap, time to go do something, nobody went with us but hopefully Sunday is a different story.
We got a great car. We don’t have to work hard. We learned, we got a good race car. Got a car in one piece, ready to go so we’ll try and get through the next couple of practices, deliver it to the starting group this Sunday and we’ll be real happy.
YOU’RE IN THE DAYTONA 500!
Yeah, it’s pretty awesome. This Whitetail Chevrolet was so fast that I knew all I had to do was stick it behind smart, intelligent drafters and we could have a good finish. That’s what we did in the Duels and I’m excited. I’m excited to go do some stuff with the Nationwide car and have some more practice with this. But to know that we’re locked in the Daytona 500’s pretty cool.
YOU WERE OBVIOUSLY IN FRONT OF THAT MELEE AT THE END. WHEN YOU WERE UP FRONT THERE IN THE BEGINNING, WERE YOU HOPING TO JUST STAY IN LINE AND LET YOU FINISH TOP 5?
I was pretty content to ride and luckily I knew a lot of people around us were. It was nice to have a little calm and not really have to be racing hard the whole time. I knew that the pit stop was going to shake everything up and that’s exactly what happened. Fell back a little bit there but made the right moves at the end to get a good finish.
HOW STRONG ARE THESE RCR CARS?
They’re very strong! They definitely have the capabilities to be winning one of these races.
YOU’RE IN THE TOP 5 FOR YOUR HEAT IN THE DAYTONA 500. YOUR PRIMARY CAR IS SITTING RIGHT IN THE GARAGE, KIND OF WADDED UP. DID YOU THINK THIS ONE HAD IT IN IT?
Yeah, it’s a brand new car also. It’s just not quite as good as the primary but still a damned good car. I’m just proud of everybody at RCR for building such fast race cars. All of our cars have been fast, ECR motor’s been strong, even our affiliate teams have been qualifying really good and racing good. So… excited about 2014! It’s going to be a good year.
WELL MAN, YOU STARTED IN THE BACK BUT WORKED YOUR WAY TO THE FRONT WHEN IT COUNTED MOST. WERE YOU JUST BIDING YOUR TIME THROUGHOUT THE RACE?
Eh, you never know if you’re going to get back up there or not. We had to start at the back, we had to make a run early and see what we could do. We drove right to 10th, or something like that and then it got stagnant. We tried to make something happen, and went to the back again. Drove back up to the front. Again, just really proud of my guys. Matt Kruder did a hell of a job on that pit stop getting just enough gas in to gain some spots there.
RCR CARS SEEM PRETTY DARNED STRONG. DO YOU THINK THE RCR CARS HAVE SOMETHING FOR THEM ON SUNDAY — ESPECIALLY THE THREE JOE GIBBS RACING CARS THAT SEEM TO BE THE CLASS OF THE FIELD RIGHT NOW?
Oh yeah. The 20 car was extremely fast. The 11 didn’t qualify that good, but he’s a good drafter. I think he won. We definitely have something for him.
Check in with Matt and Jay on their site at CareyandCoffey.com.
Bowles-Eye View · Thomas Bowles · Monday March 8, 2010
Brad Keselowski’s car was still sliding on its roof when the first email screaming at Carl Edwards landed in my inbox. Like a bounty of fireworks, fans exploded with all sorts of colorful wording, and I’m sure if you searched my Yahoo! account this morning typing in swears would send you more results than any other words in the English language.
Before we get going, let’s do a little housecleaning. Full disclosure: I’m in one of the more unique positions within the NASCAR media on this subject. My current driver diary on SI is with Brad Keselowski, who replaced none other than Carl himself. When you work with someone like that on a personal level, especially in Carl’s case, it’s hard not to get to know them off the track. That makes it a fine line for me to draw, with personal ties that bind always leading to a trickier analysis.
Next in this three-step process (I promise, we’ll get to the good stuff!), let’s get the facts out of the way for anyone living under a rock Sunday. On Lap 41 of the Cup race at Atlanta, Edwards and Keselowski entered the turn fighting for position. Edwards thought he had Keselowski cleared, and moved to the bottom only for Keselowski to tap his left rear bumper. A wreck ensued, with Keselowski continuing on unharmed while Edwards landed smack in the outside wall – sophomore Joey Logano winning “Best Supporting Actor In A Wreck” as his day got ruined by the mess. After seeing the replay, in public Edwards was gracious at first.
“I really thought it was his fault, but it really doesn’t look like it was as malicious as I thought,” he said, although he added, “Brad never gives me any room.”
“I was underneath him, tried to cut him a break but it was too late, he turned down,” said Keselowski later. “I apologized to him, but there’s nothing more you can do in that situation.”
Turns out for both men, a simple “sorry” wouldn’t be enough on this day. 150 laps’ worth of watching his car get fixed was enough to sour Edwards’ mood, and with three laps to go he found himself sitting there with a chance at payback. Keselowski, now 6th and headed towards a career-best day at Penske, passed his ailing car coming off turn 4 and heading down the front straightaway. There was one second for Edwards to bump and run, one of those life-changing, do-or-die moments you can’t take back.
The No. 99 pulled the trigger, and just like that the No. 12 was off to the catchfence, shockingly flipping before hitting the wall upside down to the shock of, well, pretty much everyone. The harrowing video was eerily reminiscent of the flip Carl endured at the hands of Brad at Talladega last April – you would just never expect it at an unrestricted track, even one with the speeds they carry at Atlanta.
But that’s another story for another day. A feud is what we’re talking about, and the second that car came to rest one was officially born. Brad was OK, but immediately used his Oscar post-race speech to immediately point NASCAR in the direction of disciplining Carl.
“To come back and intentionally wreck someone, that’s not cool,” said Keselowski. “He could have killed someone in the grandstands. And I know it’s a little ironic he’s got me saying that, but at least I didn’t do it intentionally (at Talladega, Kes was fighting for the win).”
Yet for those looking for additional penalties, that’s step 3 of 3; and a lot of you might be sorely disappointed. I don’t have a definite answer, but the school of thought in NASCAR-land after several off-the-record conversations is it looks like any suspension is a longshot at best. No, I wasn’t in the meeting, but I know enough from enough people to put the pieces together and tell you anything beyond a monetary fine would be a big surprise. The answer is expected sometime early this week.
“We talked with Carl after the race, and we have an understanding about it, and we will talk internally again as a group Monday or Tuesday,” is the official NASCAR word from VP of Competition Robin Pemberton. “And make any decision on if there will be any other actions that we will take.”
So, we’ll have to wait and see, but if I’m a betting man I’d say it’s 95/5 Carl’s racing March 21st at Bristol, TN. And honestly?
I think that’s fair.
Continuing with the rule of three, I go back to the school of thought I originally posted on SI article. We’ll expand upon them here.
One: NASCAR must live up to its policies.
In the middle of January, we all sat and watched Brian France mouth the words fans have been waiting on for years: We’ll let the drivers police themselves. No more bumpdrafting police, sure, but most importantly no crazy points penalties, fines, or suspensions for drivers being their aggressive selves on the track. Of course, no one thought the policy would be tested so quickly, with an ill-timed tap leading to one of the scarier flips in recent memory.
But a policy is a policy nonetheless. If you’re letting drivers handle payback themselves, a wreck is going to be a wreck no matter whether it’s a simple 360 or one where the car goes upside down. How can that policy be effective where you’re picking and choosing where it’s enforced? We complain all the time about NASCAR’s inconsistency, yet by asking for a penalty on Edwards you’re expecting them to start the season off inconsistent. How fast is too fast? Which leads me to point number two…
Two: The argument that Carl should spin Brad at Bristol, not Atlanta, just doesn’t hold up.
So often, we hear everyone refer to Bristol and Martinsville as if they’re the only two tracks on the circuit where you can spin someone out and not seriously hurt them. Well, here’s a news flash: anytime you strap into a car, as a race driver you put your life on the line. Think about how Joey Logano’s car flipped over at Dover, a one-mile concrete oval. Think about the tragedies we endured with Adam Petty and Kenny Irwin, stuck throttles at New Hampshire Motor Speedway. Think about the 3-4 deaths we hear about per year at local short tracks across the country.
It’s a horrible thing, but risk is just part of it every time you strap into a race car. You hope and pray that everything is safe, but you just never know. Denny Hamlin, for example, could have hit Keselowski at the wrong time in the wrong place at Homestead, sending the No. 88 hard into the wall and seriously injuring him. Do higher speeds increase the risk? Yes. But the risk is there nonetheless the second you start driving the cars in circles … so you’re either going to allow retaliation or clamp down on it like you’re the riot police. There’s just one problem with that …
Three: You’re never going to stop drivers from retaliating on the race track.
Let’s push any NASCAR rules, regulations, etc. aside for a second. The thing that gets me is how many fans have emailed me as if this wreck is the first time anybody’s ever gone after someone else on the race track. Um … have you been living under a rock? I know this sport’s gotten politically correct the last few years, but I didn’t think things were that bad people had actually forgotten how things usually work in racing.
1) Driver “A” makes a mistake and takes out Driver “B.”
It’s not rocket science. It’s called simple human emotion, and it’s not like an ignition switch in the car – people can’t turn it off. These drivers are the best in the world because they’re innately competitive, and there’s always going to be conflicts that end in bad blood. Whether it’s morally acceptable or not doesn’t change the fact that it’s going to happen. So what do you do? Do you castrate your drivers, keeping them from showing any emotion and making them so scared of disciplinary action they run single-file, afraid to take any risks, or do you let the drivers be themselves, understanding all 43 of them signed on the dotted line to be a part of a sport they love?
I’d go with answer B, personally. And that’s why I think we need to move on from this incident. No one would be talking about it to this degree if the cars didn’t flip. Yes, Carl was 156 laps down. Yes, he could have done his payback more tactfully. But it’s not like Brad is guiltless through the years, either. Note Montoya’s public comments, and I know of several drivers who have stated off the record they feel the same way.
I like Carl. I like Brad. They’re both great people. Like a sad parent, I hate that they’re fighting. But I also feel like you can’t take the “race” out of the “racer.” Suspending Carl would be equivalent to doing that for not just him but 42 other drivers who now have to wonder where to draw the line when competing against others on the race track. And isn’t that mentality one we want to get rid of?
So let’s all say a prayer nothing bad happened, chalk this up as a racing deal and move on. And I just have a feeling these two will figure out their differences over the next couple of weeks. Because when you’re two grown-ups, sometimes you don’t need Big Brother to work everything out.
By NASCAR’s actions the beginning of the year, they seemed to indicate they understood that. Let’s just hope they follow through.
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Spot on and well said!
I have no problem with hard racing and beating and banging. But what Carl did was stupid and he should be punished for it. You cant’ justify what he did on the track after wrecking himself.
BK’s crew should have went down and kicked the SH!& out of the 99 crew, if Carl is going to run and hide. What a $#%^head. I will hate Carl as a person and a driver for eternity now. Park him for the next race. I figured BK might be dead when I first saw his car rolling to a stop.
Carl might want to switch to wearing some darker gloves in the future. Those white ones really made it clear how intentional his wrecking of Keselowski was. :)
With NASCAR’s yet to be proven new stance of “let the boys be boys” to put it simply, I really don’t know how I would rule on this case. The fact that his actions led to the melee of the restart should also be factored in too.
I really don’t like Carl to begin with, but NASCAR kinda got thrown the worst case scenario for the first test of what actions they’ll take against a driver for crap like Carl pulled. So I’ll wait and see. My guess… $200k/200 points because NASCAR never lives up to what it says it is going to do.
One of issue that has bugged me for years is allowing cars to stay on the track that are more the X number of laps down. When the number of laps downs is large, like 155 for Carl, it is easy to tell when they can’t pick up any more positions and should be pulled off the track. Each track is unique in the number of laps down where it would be hard to pull someone from the track. 10 laps down at ‘Dega with 10 to go wouldn’t be a problem, while at Bristol it would be. But I really think they should get these 10+ lap down cars off the track as soon as they can.
If NASCAR penalizes Carl then all the drivers will be left wondering where the line is. If NASCAR doesn’t penalize Carl then the message is “do what thou will”. Both options have their downside.
NASCAR is making a huge mistake by not sitting Edwards out for at the very least the rest of the season. And if Roush doesn’t fire him NOW, then it just proves what I’ve said all along that Roush is a stupid jerk! Edwards biggest problem, other than he’s a brainless moron, is that Keselowski is 10 times the driver he is! If he’s that jealous, then get him off the track and out of NASCAR (at ALL levels) permanently, and do it now! And while they at at it, get the entire Roush organisation out of NASCAR too! The less the other drivers and teams have to deal with these two morons (Roush AND Edwards), the better off NASCAR wil be!
I don’t think Carl meant for BK to take a flying ride like that, he just wanted to spin him, but the wing sealed the deal on what happened. The wing is going away, so that should theoretically reduce these flyaway flips when the cars get backwards. You can’t tell the drivers to have at it, then when one does, go nuts penalizing him. Parking him the last three laps was enough (lets face it, whens the last time even that happened? Not for awhile, it doesn’t happen often).
Let the drivers police themselves. Maybe if BK realizes that other drivers are willing to risk HIS life to retaliate when BK takes them out, he’ll cool his jets a bit and think about whether he really wants to get into that other driver. And maybe Carl will remember the risks now that he’s seen what can happen when he retaliates. I think this incident taught each of them something they won’t forget.
It’s like being a parent – kids don’t get some lessons until they learn them for themselves.
I will admit that I found BK’s calling for NASCAR to retaliate was a little like a bully running to the teacher to cry about getting beat up after another kid serves him up a dose of what he’d been shoveling.
Let the boys be boys…Nascrap put the wing on the cars….95% chance with a spoiler the car wouldn’t have gone airbone! that is nascrap’s fault. Now all you Carl haters, the reason those coward drivers of yours don’t go see Carl or his crew is that they would leave much the worse for wear!!All those who watch the sissy boy drivers will have to learn to live with it!! It goes on every week at tracks all around this country!!
I’ll just say in Hockey you can fight if you want to send a message but if you “attempt to injure” typically you get kicked out of the game and suspended.
I was pretty much a Carl Edwards fan until yesterday. The original incident was Edward’s fault as much as it was Keselowski’s. Edwards should be fined and suspended. He not only intentionally tried to hurt Keselowsk. He also endangered the fans. Any other sport would do it. Brittany Grimes from Baylor was suspended for cold cocking an opposing player. This was no different.
I can’t decide which response is dumber , Carls or yours . IT DOESN“T MATTER WHICH TRACK CARL RETALIATES AT ! Let me clue you in on something Tom , as important as Brads safety was , the fans safety was also a very big concern . You might remember Bobby Allison at Talladega almost getting into the stands , same with Edwards . Turning Brad around at Martinsville , or Bristol , or anywhere you’re not traveling 185 MPH would obviously be a lot better idea .
I’m taking a lot of the Carl hater comments with a grain of salt, because I suspect that a lot of them are also Junior fans whose allegiance to Junior has spread to BK since he was driving for Junior up to last year – a lot of the comments sound a lot like what the Junior fans sound like whenever someone messes with THEIR driver.
Heh .. NA$CAR can’t have it both ways, they HAVE to let this lie for now. ‘Intention’ is hard to prove and on a racetrack anything can happen to cause trouble, especially with these idiotic COTs. (The WING is dead, long live the WING but good riddence !!)
First let me say I am a JR fan, but Brad got the big head driving for JR> his ego was way over sized. Now he thinks he knows it all. Finally someone put him in his real place!!! Hope he has enough sense to stay there. He may not get off so easy the next time. JR needed to teach Brad some track manners, He got what he deserved!
How many race fans thought that Dale Sr. was too aggressive? How many think just the opposite? Paybacks have been a part of racing seance the first race ever run, even before NASCAR, and they will always be a part of the sport. Today’s newer race fans have no idea of what true racing is about, they are too “politically correct” to understand what goes through the mind of a driver that has been sent into the wall by someone. What goes through their mind is “payback”. No driver wants to turn another driver upside down. That happened because of the design of the rear spoiler catching the air. That is not the fault of any driver. Paybacks are going to be a part of the sport just like they are going to be in any other sport. NASCAR, at the beginning of the year, said that they were letting the drivers be drivers. I expect a fine and probation for Carl, mainly because of his driving the wrong way on pit road in defiance to being parked, but for the incident involving Brad, if they do anything more than the fine they are cutting their own nose to spite their own face.
Perhaps I’m a bit biased, since being a Harvick fan, my driver got parked for taking someone out… in a truck race at Martinsville going 60 mph in a turn. For consistency’s sake, Edwards should be parked.
However, I have another reason for not parking him: it would make Carl look like a hero. Let’s face it, Kes isn’t a popular driver, and there’s probably people out there who think anyone who spins the kid deserves a medal. The last thing anyone needs is fans with “Free Carl” signs at the next track.
Besides, let’s face it: NASCAR can’t penalize Carl so it hurts anyway. Fining a guy with millions and taking points away from somebody who isn’t going to win the Championship anyway don’t send a message. The only appropriate penalty here would be for Carl to go down to the Penske shop (without bodyguards or handlers or anything) and apologize individually to everyone on the #12 team. Which he should do anyway.
First off, I did not see the race yesterday, but when I heard that “Big-Head Brad” got dumped, my thought was that he got what he deserved. But upon seeing what happened and that Edwards was involved, I do not condone what Carl did, and I thought Carl used very poor judgement. Then I prepared for all those Edwards haters, and I am guessing this is about 99% of NASCAR fans right now (Pun with the 99% intentional), to call for Edwards to be kicked out of NASCAR forever! Hmmmm! I thought that Brad should of had his Talladega win pulled for the same reason. And Tony’s win at Daytona last July! I’m wondering if, had the roles been reversed and it was Keselowski turning Edwards, would you all be making the same comments? Or if it had of been any other driver who turned Kelelowski (Denny Hamlin comes to mind), would you be launching your attacks on that driver? I think not!
It is pure luck that BK did not get seriously hurt on that wreck.
Luckily the car was far enough from the wall when the end over started.
BKs front left tire and fender hit the top of the wall first eating some of the shock then hitting the A pillar.
If the car was closer to the wall during the rotation it would have been A pillar first and that might have been the end of BK.
That was a close one.
Brad got what was coming to him. He wrecks way too many people. The worst thing that happened to this kid was driving for JR motorsports. Why? No matter how he performed on the track, JR Nation at large was cheering like hell for him because he was driving the 88. When he was winning races by virtue of his good equipment, I get that. But when he was wrecking people (not just Hamlin, Edwards, or Busch), they were still cheering his ass. That inflated his ego, and suddenly, he thought he was all that. Carl’s stock just went up in my book.
Carl more or less admitted during his post-race interview that he wrecked Brad on purpose . I say park him for a race and see if his attitude improves!
The statement from NASCAR “let the boys be boys” does not apply to a driver coming out of the garage onto the track over 100 laps down to intentionally wreck another driver. I fully expect at least a 6-figure fine, point deductions, and personal apologies.
Well said. A little dip into Carl’s wallet and an up close and personal chat is all that is needed…for now. In the mean time just let ‘em race.
I used to race and my rule was always if you wreck me 1X, I’ll turn around a wreck you 2X or atleast 2x as bad. So I guess if I was Brad, Carl could expect a waded up car at Bristol & Martinsville.
The more I think about it, the more I think NASCAR should park him.
Everyone knows that these new cars tend to flip over a heck of a lot easier than they should when they get turned around at speed. And they were racing at NASCAR’s fastest track.
So knowing that makes Edwards’ actions all that more dangerous, especially to the fans. Carl should have waited until after the race and confronted Keselowski then. No one would be saying “park him” if he threw a few punches after the race.
Some of you people need to give your head a shake. What if brad had been killed, or the car had gone in the stands, what would you have given carl for a penalty? Watch the video, it was close. That incident wasn’t about racing, it was stupidity.
As a Carl Edwards fan, I was deeply dissapointed, to watch him take such a cheap shot. Being a hundred and fifty some laps down and blatantly and intentionaly wrecking a driver, who was, at the time, running in the top ten, he deserves to be suspended, for one race, as was Kevin Harvick a few years ago. If NASCAR does not nip such a blatant practice, in the bud, where will it end? I believe in self-policing, but Carl Edwards crossed the line.
I think what Keselowski got yesterday was a much-needed reality check. I used to like him a lot more, but his ego has gotten way overblown. I don’t condone what Carl did, but I hope something good can come from this—that Keselowski’s ego can be trimmed down a bit and that would be good for everyone in the Cup series.
Everyone makes mistakes and bad decisions in the heat of the moment. NASCAR drivers are human beings just like the rest of us. We all know Carl didn’t intend for Brad to go airborne, so let’s not judge Carl himself based on one split-second decision that I am certain he now wishes had turned out differently.
Let’s also remember that history is a factor. If yesterday’s incident had been the only time those two had gotten together on the track, Carl would have looked at it just as a “racing deal” and moved on. But we all know that Brad has had his share of run-ins with Carl and other drivers, and that history led to the payback more than the single incident early in this race.
My opinion: Carl should get a minor penalty of money and/or points. NASCAR does need to take this opportunity to remind drivers that safety of both other drivers and fans is important and should be taken into consideration when considering payback. But I think that is all they should do. Given the severity of the incident, I truly believe that these two drivers will somehow work things out on their own.
Carl should have known better, and tried to wreck Brad on the backstretch away from the grandstands and fans.
That said, I’d fine him $50k (sent to Victory Junction Camp) and 50 points for driving the wrong way on pit road, and probation till the end of the year.
The biggest problem I have with this is that it dramatically affected the end of the race. NA$CAR dodged a bullet because Kurt was able to pull out the win but what if he hadn’t? If there wasn’t two restarts, how many other cars would have had better days? That the real issue in my mind.
If you look at how Carl spun BK, he was just trying to send him through the grass. If he wanted to “hurt” him, as some of you think, he would have nudged him the other way which would have sent him into the wall. Carl could have went “Spencer” on BK. It calmed Kurt Busch down. His mouth got him decked.
BK got what he deserved. CE did what everyone else has wanted to do for a long time…he wrecked him. im sure he didnt mean to make him airborne but that really was a wing issue. they will fine CE monetarily but not park him..if they park him, they will be shootin themselves in the foot. this “drama” brings excitement to the sport and more ppl will watch to see what CE/BK will do…
I know I’m going to sound like a BK fan here, which I’m not, but I can’t see how this is his fault. Looking at the original incident, Carl turned down into Brad. Why is that Brad’s fault? Carl’s spotter should have told him he didn’t have room. Why should BK lift to let Edwards in and get passed by 2-3 cars in the process? Same at Talladega last year. Carl was blocking and turned down into Brad. Brad is racing hard all the time. Isn’t that what we want?
I just knew Tom would see nothing wrong with Carl’s retailation. ‘It’s all part of the danger of racing, you need let the drivers show emotion,etc., etc.’
NASCAR said to have it, but I’m sure that doesn’t mean anything goes. The response should be 200 points (one race) and at least $200,000 (one race’s winnings).
If Carl wanted to bump him after the race, swipe his side during the race, punch him after the race it would be more acceptable.
Also, Danny Hamlin should have been penalized last year for the Homestead incident with BK. At least he had the balls to owe it. Carl’s response after the race in interviews and on his facebook were nothing short of rationalization of a poor decision. He should man up and just say “I stepped over the line, apologize, and accept whatever punishment NASCAR feels appropriate.” Then I’d respect him again.
As for BK I have thought he has handled both the Hamlin and Edwards conflicts with class. I see him as a hard driver, not a dirty driver. That gets respect in my book any day.
What Carl Edwards did is unacceptable. There is no ‘boys will be boys’. This drama stuff is bull. Let’s start flipping everyone over at Talladega and Daytona every time someone is mad at another driver. Carl Edwards has some serious anger built inside him and it exploded on Sunday. Another car could have come along and hit Keselowski. Would that have been okay that they were involved in a accident created by a stupid feud too?
When Allison and Yarborough had there famous incident at Daytona in ’79 they wrecked again at the next race. Other racers came up to them and told them that the stupidity had to stop. Edwards and Keselowski should not continue ‘feuding’ as it is not good for the sport for a driver to be eventually killed by these unacceptable and dangerous moves. This fake ‘macho’ activity is ridiculous.
Carl Edward as a racer and human being should have better sense than spin someone out at 190 mph. He should no how easy it is to flip over a car with the rear wing. There should be consequences and penalties to his actions. I would have felt this strongly about Edwards if he would have spun and flipped other drivers like Kyle Busch, Kevin Harvick, Jeff Gordon, Dale Jr., Joe Nemecheck etc.
There is no excuse for his animal like behavior. Edwards helped ruin the finish of the race and he was over 150 laps down! He wrecked a car that was in the top 10! More cars were involved in a wreck after the caution he helped bring out. Millions of dollars down the drain. And instead of talking about a great finish that could have been between Busch and Montoya people talk about the stupid move by Edwards.
Unfortunately this seems to be Carl’s MO. After a race, he left his pit, went onto the track and slammed into Dale Jr’s car while he had his hand dangling out of his car on the cool-down lap. Then he went to VL and grabbed Jr by his firesuit and had his fist doubled up. Next, after a race he grabbed Matt Kenseth by his shirt while being interviewed, pulled back his fist like he was going to hit him, then smirked as he walked away. Next after taking 10-12 cars out at Dega, he goes into Kevin’s garage and grabs him in a choke hold and tries to punch him until he was restrained. Now he deliberately tries 3 times to hit Brad before being succesful. This wreck was just one more in the list of unreasonable actions Carl has taken. This man is unstable. He cannot control his rage or his actions. If Nascar does not take adequate action, he will eventually hurt or kill a driver or fan in the stands. He is out of control.
Forget the rivalry, forget the drivers involved, forget the violent nature of the crash. Bottom line: It is absolutely inexcusable, under any circumstances, for a car that is 150-plus laps down to intentionally wreck a car racing for a top 5 finish with less than 5 laps left. Based on that ALONE, Edwards is more than deserving of a lengthy suspension. He broke just about everything in the book of racing etiquette with that move. And even if Keselowski doesn’t retaliate, someone else will, because that wreck, caution, and subsequent restart/pileup totally ruined the race for a bunch of other drivers.
Edwards will be the least popular driver in the garage if he’s at the track next week.
Carl causes wreck with Brad at Talledega.
WHO’S IS STUPED?
“NASCAR is making a huge mistake by not sitting Edwards out for at the very least the rest of the season. And if Roush doesn’t fire him NOW, then it just proves what I’ve said all along that Roush is a stupid jerk! Edwards biggest problem, other than he’s a brainless moron, is that Keselowski is 10 times the driver he is! If he’s that jealous, then get him off the track and out of NASCAR (at ALL levels) permanently, and do it now! And while they at at it, get the entire Roush organisation out of NASCAR too! The less the other drivers and teams have to deal with these two morons (Roush AND Edwards), the better off NASCAR wil be!”
Look at the first incident, then look at the front of Brad’s car after. No damage on the fender, no damage on the right side, all the damage is on the NOSE. No way Carl came down on him, so… payback is a b**ch, although maybe a little too obvious.
Mr. Bowles.. A blatant error Carl made was he didn’t apologize AT ALL for the incident..not to NASCAR, the teams involved, his sponsors, the drivers, the TV fans..or most importantly the fans in the stands where impact occurred. That would have gone a little ways in defusing this incident. BUT, instead Carl spoke with the media all the while having a little smirk on his face..looking like he wanted to burst out laughing. I could care less about the petty feud between the two of them…but when a driver takes a wounded car around the track for 150+ laps and while riding around he plots his revenge…plays it out..no apologies..and posts his lists of reasons on his Facebook…it makes me wonder about that driver. It makes me more then wonder…it is downright scary, creepy, and has me wondering if Carl is playing with a full deck. We have all seen his temper at work..with Stewart, Kenseth, Earnhardt and several other drivers. What should they do with him? Well maybe some “anger management therapy” would help…or maybe he should buy his own team..it seems to have helped another hothead…I just hope it happens before something bigger happens. We all have our demons..and Carl’s seem to be edging ever closer to the surface.
No Spin, your name is as much CRAP as Bill O’Riely saying he is a no spin zone. You don’t like Carl of Roush. Well too bad. Some of us DO!! BK needs to grow up and stop starting fights he can’t win. I am glad he was not hurt and of course I am glad no fans were hurt. But did he care about Carl or the fans last year? Jack is not going to fire a driver who won nine races in one season two years ago. Carl had no intention of BK taking that ride, but he did hit him. Nascar should fine Carl and tell both Carl and BK that if they have anymore suspitious run ins then they both sit out a race. I am not thrilled with the result of Carl hitting Brad but I am a Ford racing fan and I have gotten sick of other makes drivers pushing our guys around.(Mark Martin would never be agressive enough) Well I guess we aren’t going to take it anymore.
I only hope that Edwards is running for the championship at the end of the season, BK is out of it, and it’s payback time for pinhead Carl.
I wonder if Carl has learned that he may choose his actions, but not the consequences? (I meant to shoot him, but not kill him.) Would he feel as smug if someone in the stands had been hurt by debris? If Brad had been injured? Nascar did mention that ‘have at it boys’ wasn’t a get out of jail free card. I’m not saying that BK hasn’t caused some wrecks…but so has Carl. I think an appropriate consequence would be to make Carl pay Penske for the car…body, engine, everything…out of his own pocket. Then Nascar should sit him out for a race or two, or make him take an anger management course. Didn’t they have Tony stewart do that before?
Anyone who claims that the people defending Brad Keselowski are only doing so because they are Junior fans is just plain ignorant. I’m a fan of BK’s because he drives like Junior’s dad and not like Junior.
Anyone who follows ALL of Nascar’s top series rather than just Cup knows that Kes is a reckless, rough driver who has had something like this coming for a looooong time. Welcome to the wonderful world of consequences, Brad. Try to learn something from your visit.
That said, Carl picked the wrong time and wrong place to introduce Kes to the concept that every action sparks a reaction. Big, fast tracks like Atlanta are too dangerous for that sort of stuff.
Nascar’s between a rock and a hard place with this one and I wouldn’t want to have to make that decision. Technically Carl is the aggressor but Kes is like that kid who used to kick you under the desk so that the teacher would punish you for fidgeting. Nascar’s response should be firm about the unacceptable nature of intentional wrecking at high-speed tracks while bearing in mind that Kes deserves to secure sponsorship from Maytag and Whirlpool both for Bristol and Martinsville.
LOL,Good Lord,Why say you are sorry if you are not?Why lie about it?Just more P.C.crap!Oh,I’m sorry!NOT!!!
The only driver I’m going to mention is Mark Martin. I’m a fan back to ASA and he is regarded as one of the most respected drivers. BUT…If my driver did the same thing I would be in total agreement to fine him and take points heavily and park him for a race.
This From Kyle Petty – I like the pair of balls comment.
Nascar can’t sit Edwards because now they have a great possibility to increase their somewhat poor TV ratings (however,Atlanta rating was up from last year) having this rivalry. Yes, it’s about money.
If I was BK and they do not suspend Carl the only thing you could be sure about is at the drivers meeting at Bristol I would warn all the other drivers and I would tell Carl to his face that he will be wrecked a few times this season and he can kiss any chance of winning a championship this season goodbye because I’m gonna see to it.
I AGREE,WITH PEPPER…100% HE, ABSOULTY,NEEDS TO BE PARKED! CHECK HIS RECORD. HOUDY DOODYN NEEDS FOR KEVIN, TO WIPE THAT GRIN, OFF HIS FACE!
Forget about a penalty for Carl.
Carl could have hurt fans or worse killed someone. He’s not sorry he did it and what I saw of the first wreck It was him who came down on Brad. He took a race car and in anger triggered what could easily been much worse. This is not the first time he’s done something this stupid. Didn’t he crash into Dale Jr.‘s driver side during a caution while Jr had his hand out the window near the window net? He is totally out of control. I’d like to see about 6 race vacation and oh say $500,000 fine. That would get his attention.
NASCAR has let Brad wreck dozens of other drivers in NW and SC and has not come down on him (aside from a minor talking to once that didn’t do anything). So was Carl supposed to assume they’d say something this time, especially after the “have at it” speech”? Of course not.
NASCAR clearly gave the signal to Carl and the others: you’ll need to take care of this. NASCAR has set the stage for this, and there should be no shock this happened. NASCAR, Brad, and Carl all share the blame for this incident.
Another thought: why is it you don’t see other drivers messing with Carl? Because they’ve learned not to from past experience. They may not like him in the garage, but they don’t mess with him, either. The difference between him and Dale Senior is that Senior wore the Intimidator suit with pride, whereas Carl masks his in his nice guy persona. If he walked around like a gunslinger instead, nobody would be shocked by this.
The fans wanted racing like it used to be. Well I’m guessing a lot of fans have forgotten what racing used to be like. Here it is. Have at it.
I respect Kyle Petty a great deal for what he’s done with VJ, and as a member of the Petty family, but this is one of those times I have to disagree with him – how’s this a black eye on the media exactly? Or the other competitors?
Had one second to decide????? What about the lap before when Carl tryed and missed? I lost a lot of respect for Carl Edwards when he went to punch Matt Kenseth, he has a problem. Park him!!!
I agree Tom, but its more like Edwards had 150 LAPS to plan his revenge.
Blatant disregard for anyone else but himself and REVENGE!Can you even imagine.. this guy is a deputy sherriff as well? Wow! Carl Edwards with power to tell you what to do, a badge, and a gun..remind me NEVER to drive in MO. I might do something to inadvertantly PO Mr. Ed and then who knows whjat will happen. Ill probabaly get the pit manuever, handcuffed and then shot!
The guy needs seriuos help! Sybil comes to mind with Crazy Carls split personality.
nascar couldnt do anything to carl because of the statements they made at the beginning of the year dont really agree with how carl handled but he did it and its over now no one got hurt so we cant keep saying what if what we need to look at is that nascar for a change has stuck to their word (let the boys be boys )of course right now with the way attendance(did anyone else notice all the empty seats at atlanta ) and tv viewership is going nascar would do anything to boost their game so if anyone is going to blame anyone it needs to be nascar
Most drunk drivers don’t mean to kill people when they drive drunk but they do. I’m all for the drivers policing themselves, but it needs to be done so not to put the fans in danger. spin the guy on a caution lap or leaving the pits hell kick his ass in the garage if you want but turning another car at 190mph in front of the grandstands is just stupid and that is what Carl should be punished for.
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