Swan Racing Announces Restructuring, No. 26 & No. 30 "Sold" Off
posted by Thomas Bowles
Wednesday April 23, 2014
After a week of uncertainty, Swan Racing’s two teams will show up at Richmond Friday night after a combination of mergers and acquisitions have kept the two teams up and running. The moves, announced in a press release Wednesday will keep rookie Cole Whitt behind the wheel of the No. 26 while J.J. Yeley moves into the No. 30, replacing Parker Kligerman effective immediately.
The solution for Whitt was rather simple: Swan co-owner Anthony Marlowe merged his portion of ownership into a deal with BK Racing. That team will now expand to three cars, with Whitt running full-time (for now) alongside fellow rookies Alex Bowman (No. 23) and Ryan Truex (No. 83). The move will also keep former Swan employees working full-time, rehired by BK as enough money was gathered up to keep the No. 26 up and running. Whitt, who has a best run of 18th this season (Fontana) will remain competing with his crew essentially intact.
“I respect Brandon Davis and everything he has done for the Swan Racing Company,” said Marlowe in the release. “Looking forward, my mission is to ensure Cole Whitt races in every NASCAR Sprint Cup event this season. My friend Ron Devine and the BK Ownership group really stepped up to enable me to keep the No. 26 on the track. Cole and Randy [Cox, crew chief] are off to an auspicious start in 2014 for a new Cup Team and we are gearing up for Richmond. In addition to the No. 26 team’s performance so far this year, the new ‘win and you’re in’ system and qualifying rules were motivating and positive factors in my continued investment in NASCAR.”
As for Swan’s No. 30, the equipment has been sold to Johnathan Cohen and his Xxxtreme Motorsports operation. That team, which has yet to make a race this season with J.J. Yeley will now run that No. 30 with their own Chevys before switching to the new Swan equipment (plus their old number, 44) beginning at Talladega. It’s an opportunity for them to gain speed and perhaps run a full race. Xxxtreme, with patchwork funding has yet to run more than 66 laps in any Cup event, start-and-parking in every race it’s made since making a go at NASCAR’s top level in mid-2012.
“We’ve had a lot of adversity in our organization,” Cohen tweeted after the purchase. “But today, made a big step in the right direction.”
Co-owner Brandon Davis, who had been MIA before Tuesday’s public announcement praised both Marlowe and Cohen in helping keep the equipment, former employees, and one of his two drivers afloat while Swan searches for funding to keep racing.
“Anthony and Jonathan are both young and ambitious NASCAR enthusiasts,” he said in a statement, later reiterating those points on SIRIUS XM Radio. “It is important to keep them in the sport for the long term. I am very relieved to know that the Nos. 26 and 30 teams will be in good hands and will continue to compete the remainder of the 2014 NASCAR Sprint Cup Series season. Most importantly, most of the team members have the opportunity to continue their employment in the sport and to support their families. This was critically important to me.”
So what happens to Swan’s other rookie, Parker Kligerman? Davis has retained Kligerman’s contract, and while the team has officially suspended operations he’s actively searching for funding to get the No. 30 back on track. Should it happen, it’ll be a one-car program with Kligerman at the wheel despite an ugly start that left the first-year driver 38th in series points.
“We are encouraged by the response we have received from interested parties,” Davis said of Kligerman. “Parker continues to be one of the most talented young drivers in NASCAR. He brought this racing team one of its strongest results in his first race with us [18th at Texas], and we are certain of his success in the future.”
The driver, in his response left the door open to run for other programs. Swan, which has partnered with celebrities like the NFL’s Bill Romanowski and rapper 50 Cent may be able to parlay those connections into funding that gets Kligerman into another car in the meantime.
“Although it’s unfortunate we are having to scale back, I look forward to the future and the exciting things that I’m confident we will accomplish at Swan Racing or with another team,” said Kligerman. “I value the relationship that I’ve had with Brandon Davis and am very grateful for him giving me an opportunity to compete in the NASCAR Sprint Cup Series. Whether I continue to race with Brandon and Swan Racing or end up with another team, I will always give it my all on and off track to be the best I can be.”
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Daniel Suarez to Make Nationwide Debut for Joe Gibbs Racing at Richmond
posted by Phil Allaway
Tuesday April 22, 2014
Joe Gibbs Racing announced on Tuesday morning that NASCAR Toyota Series and K&N Pro Series East driver Daniel Suarez will make his Nationwide Series debut in Friday night’s ToyotaCare 250 at Richmond International Raceway. Sponsorship will be provided by Silent Circle, a global service that allows for the sending of encrypted communications and Telcel, a Mexican telecommunications company.
Suarez is thrilled to have the opportunity to race for Joe Gibbs Racing at Richmond.
“I’m excited for the opportunity to make my NASCAR Nationwide Series debut,” Suarez said in a press release. “I want to thank Telcel and Silent Circle for believing in me and making this a reality. I can’t wait for Friday night in Richmond.”
JGR President J.D. Gibbs is very excited to have an up and coming talent such as Suarez in the fold.
“Daniel is certainly someone that has proven to have a lot of talent and we are thrilled this was able to come together and allow him to make his debut at Richmond,” Gibbs said. “I think it’s exciting when you look at the young talent our sport has right now and we certainly feel that Daniel is going to be part of the future for NASCAR.”
For Suarez, the 2014 season has been very successful so far. He started tke K&N Pro Series East season with two wins in three days in New Smyrna Beach, FL and Daytona Beach, FL (as part of the UNOH Battle at the Beach). Despite a crash at Bristol, Suarez still ranks second in points behind Ben Rhodes. In the Toyota Series, Suarez came from behind to win the season opening Toyota 120 at Phoenix International Raceway in front of all the Sprint Cup and Nationwide teams. Another win in Chiapas and a second-place finish at the Autodromo Hermanos Rodriguez’s oval gives him a nine point lead over Antonio Perez.
This will be a very busy weekend for Suarez. With the Denny Hamlin Short Track Showdown moving to South Boston Speedway this year, the K&N Pro Series East Blue Ox 100 will be held immediately after the conclusion of the Nationwide Series ToyotaCare 250. In addition, the Toyota Series will have their fourth race of the season at the Autodromo de Monterrey in Suarez’s hometown on Sunday.
Gene Haas' Formula One License Application Accepted By FIA
posted by Phil Allaway
Friday April 11, 2014
This morning, the FIA announced that the license application submitted by Stewart-Haas Racing co-owner Gene Haas had officially been accepted. As a result, provided that everything comes together financially and technically, Haas’ new Formula One team will have a spot on the grid at the start of the 2015 season.
Upon receiving the news this morning, Haas released the following statement.
“Obviously, we’re extremely pleased to have been granted a Formula One license by the FIA,” Haas wrote. “It’s an exciting time for me, Haas Automation and anyone who wanted to see an American team return to Formula One.”
“Now, the really hard work begins. It’s a challenge we embrace as we work to put cars on the grid. I want to thank the FIA for this opportunity and the diligence everyone put forth to see our license application come to fruition.”
Haas’ team would be the 12th team on the Formula One grid for the 2015 season if all the current teams return. Much like the failed USF1 team that Peter Windsor was involved with, the team would partially be based in North Carolina with an additional European base.
Stewart-Haas Racing is setting up a press conference for Monday to further discuss the move. We’ll have more information here at Frontstretch as soon as it becomes available.
Speeds Approach 220 MPH At Michigan Test
posted by Phil Allaway
Thursday April 10, 2014
On Wednesday, Goodyear held the second and final day of their tire test at Michigan International Speedway. The overall goal of the test was so teams could come up with a solution that would encourage better racing on the two-mile, D-shaped oval, while at the same time allowing for a compound that would not blister.
Much of the headlines from the test seemed to stem from high speeds reported. Dale Earnhardt, Jr. tweeted a computer readout that stated he reached 215.2 mph. Clint Bowyer went a little bit faster at 217 mph, which Bowyer later described as “whites-in-your-eyes fast.” Greg Biffle told ESPN’s Shannon Spake on NASCAR Now that he reached 220 mph and a 204 mph average.
Despite the high speeds, the drivers who tested Tuesday and Wednesday believe that there will be better racing this year in the Irish Hills. Michigan winters are a bit harsher than in most locales on the Sprint Cup calendar. As a result, there is more weathering from year to year.
Earnhardt Jr. appeared to be quite happy with the track.
“I enjoy racing here,” the two-time Michigan winner said. “It’s a fun track. The asphalt is really aging well and it’s just going to keep getting better and better over the next couple of years.”
As is the norm for Goodyear tire tests, no official speeds were announced. However, Earnhardt Jr. stated in the Media Center that while he was going anywhere from 212-215 mph at the end of the frontstretch, he was only dropping down to 180 or so in the turns.
Greg Biffle and Ryan Newman echoed Earnhardt Jr.’s sentiment when asked about the track surface. They expect the track to support multiple grooves for racing when the Sprint Cup and Nationwide Series return in June.
As for track management, they definitely appear to like the high speeds. Michigan International Speedway President Roger Curtis spent part of Wednesday retweeting top speed posts. However, Curtis understands that going fast is not the only thing that matters.
“The drivers are posting 200 mph. That’s awesome,” Curtis said. “The fans get very, very excited about that. But at the end of the day, on Sunday when the green flag drops, the numbers ‘two zero zero’ they’re not anywhere in the fans’ minds. It’s lead changes, it’s the competition…”
Since the track was repaved prior to the 2012 season, the number of lead changes at Michigan International Speedway has been relatively flat with the years before the repave. However, the number of cautions are up as well, which can skew the lead change numbers a little. Complaints have come more from a rock hard tire compound, made by Goodyear for safety reasons which has made passing more difficult and actual “wear” (which leads to speed dropoff) hard to come by.
Sherwin-Williams To Sponsor No. 51 Cup Car At Darlington
posted by Phil Allaway
Thursday April 10, 2014
On Wednesday, HScott Motorsports announced that Sherwin-Williams will serve as the primary sponsor of Justin Allgaier’s No. 51 Chevrolet this weekend at Darlington Raceway. The No. 51 will primarily be advertising the automotive finishes division, in addition to the AWX Performance Plus Waterborne Refinish System the company makes.
Allgaier is very happy to have Sherwin-Williams onboard.
“I’m thrilled to have Sherwin-Williams on the car at Darlington,” Allgaier said in the press release. “They are a big supporter of HScott Motorsports and NASCAR. I can’t wait drive the No. 51 with the Sherwin-Williams colors on it at one of my favorite tracks.”
Sherwin-Williams has a fairly extensive history in NASCAR. They currently serve as the “Official Automotive Paint of NASCAR.” Prior to that, the company served as a primary sponsor for a number of cars in what is now the Nationwide Series.
As for Allgaier, Saturday will more than likely be his first career Sprint Cup start at the historic oval. However, in five Nationwide Series starts, Allgaier already has two top-5 and three top-10 finishes. His average result is an excellent 9.8.
Bass Pro Shops Primary Sponsor For Austin Dillon In Two Cup Races
posted by Frontstretch Staff
Wednesday April 9, 2014
Announced Tuesday in a ceremony and car unveiling at their Concord, NC location, Bass Pro Shops and Richard Childress Racing made it official that the national outdoor sports retail giant will be the primary sponsor of Austin Dillon’s No. 3 Chevrolet SS for two races during the 2014 NASCAR Sprint Cup season at Talladega (May 4th) and Daytona (July 5th).
Bass Pro Shops has been associated with Dillon’s career dating back to 2010, when they sponsored his No. 3 Chevy Silverado in the NASCAR Camping World Truck Series, and also followed Dillon to the Nationwide Series as a sponsor for his No. 3 Chevy Camaro for RCR. The two won a pair of NASCAR championships together, and the retailer has also served as an associate sponsor for Dillon’s car in the NSCS this season.
During the announcement, Bass Pro Shops noted that the retailer has been involved in the sport of NASCAR since 1998, when they became an associate sponsor of RCR’s No. 3 Chevy Monte Carlo driven by legend Dale Earnhardt.
Now, the sponsor is back on the Cup level, paired with the No. 3 once again and hoping to elevate the program to Victory Lane. Already, Dillon has one pole to start the season at Daytona, where he posted a ninth-place finish, his best result to date during this rookie campaign. 21st at Texas last weekend, he’s currently 11th in the Sprint Cup championship standings.
For the Bojangles’ Southern 500 this weekend at Darlington, Dillon will have Dow Chemical on board as the primary sponsor for the No. 3 car.
Ruud To Sponsor Buescher, No. 99 RAB Racing Toyota
posted by Frontstretch Staff
Wednesday April 9, 2014
RAB Racing announced that Ruud, heating and cooling brand, will be on board the No. 99 Toyota Camry as primary sponsor this weekend at Darlington for the VFW Sport Clips Help-A-Hero 200 NASCAR Nationwide Series race. The brand joins Rheem as a primary sponsor of the car during the 2014 Nationwide Series campaign. Ruud will also sponsor the No. 99 of James Buescher in several other races this season, according to a team statement.
Buescher, the 2012 NASCAR Camping World Truck Series Champion, is driving full-time for RAB Racing and making the transition from the Truck Series to the NNS this year. The No. 99 team was recently penalized by NASCAR at Bristol for a P3 penalty (illegal weight added to the car improperly, which was lost during the race), which led to crew chief Chris Rice being fined $10,000 and placed on probation until December 31st. Car chief John Guerra was also placed on probation by the sanctioning body for the incident.
Sitting ninth in points thus far in 2014, Buescher’s best finish this season has been 12th at Phoenix. The 24-year-old, Plano, Texas native has one career win and 14 top-10 finishes in the NNS since his first start in 2008.
Five Sprint Cup Teams Test At MIS For Goodyear
posted by Frontstretch Staff
Wednesday April 9, 2014
After a long winter in Michigan, five NASCAR Sprint Cup Series teams visited Michigan International Speedway for a Goodyear Tire Test taking place both Tuesday and Wednesday this week. To prepare for the test, MIS reported having to use the track’s jet dryers to clear and melt snow and ice from the two-mile track.
Due to the snow melt, frost, and rain on Monday night, MIS had to delay the tire test for most of the day because of weepers around the track’s surface. The track crew worked throughout the afternoon to dry up the moisture so that testing could get safely underway. Finally, Greg Biffle took his No. 16 3M Ford Fusion to the asphalt at MIS around 4:00 PM ET as the first driver on track.
In addition to Biffle, Goodyear has scheduled drivers Clint Bowyer; Trevor Bayne; Ryan Newman; and Dale Earnhardt, Jr. to take part in the tire test, which is open to fans from 9 AM to 5 PM today.
Michigan International Speedway is in for a busy summer in the Irish Hills as the track plays host to the Quicken Loans 400 on June 15th, then the Pure Michigan 400 on August 17th.
Logano's Four Tires Triumph Over Jeff Gordon's Two At Texas
posted by Justin Tucker
Tuesday April 8, 2014
Joey Logano would overcome Mother Nature and a green-white-checkered restart with four-time Cup Series champion Jeff Gordon to win the rain-delayed Duck Commander 500 at Texas Motor Speedway. Logano, with his trip to Victory Lane Monday afternoon also became the seventh different Sprint Cup driver to win in 2014 in as many races.
Logano, who led a race-high 108 laps on the afternoon, appeared to be on his way to a dominating victory until two laps to go. That’s when Kurt Busch blew a left-rear tire on his No. 41 Chevrolet, spraying debris all over the track.
“When you got like 40-something laps after the last pit stop, you got a pretty sizable lead, really all you’re thinking is, ‘Where is the white flag? Where is the white flag?’” Logano said after the race. “Then, you go into turn one, you see the [No.] 41 up against the wall. You’re like, Please no caution, please no caution. Boom, it comes out. You got to be kidding me. You get so mad you can barely control yourself.”
This incident, the third for Busch on the day would set up a decisive yellow-flag pit stop before the final restart. Jeff Gordon and the No. 24 team then rolled the dice, jumping from sixth to first with only two tires while Logano and his Penske teammate Brad Keselowski would take four. Keselowski, who was second coming in would then get caught speeding while exiting pit road, eliminating him from contention. The Penske Racing driver, after leading 85 laps in his own right dropped to a disappointing 15th on the afternoon.
“That last caution was a shame,” Keselowski said, who lost a chance to become the series’ first two-time winner. “I was just trying to get a little too much on pit road, wanted to get us out front to be able to win the race and tried a little too hard.”
That left Logano dealing with Gordon and Brian Vickers directly in front on the restart. As the cars accelerated, he wasted no time dispatching Vickers for second and set his sights on the bumper of Gordon’s No. 24 Chevrolet. On the white-flag lap, Logano was able to take advantage of his four fresh tires to get underneath Gordon, clearing him by the exit of Turn 1.
“I mean, coming in sixth, you’re in that position that you can gamble,” said Gordon, who did earn a consolation prize — becoming the Sprint Cup points leader for the first time since the 2009 Coca-Cola 600 (see below). “You’re not going to win it with four tires, you’re not going to win it with none. I knew it was going to be hard to hold those guys off.”
After clearing Gordon, Logano was able to cruise to his fourth career Sprint Cup Series win, his second with Penske in a little over a season with the team. The driver’s confidence is high, stemming from crew chief Todd Gordon whom the 23-year-old was quick to praise after the race.
“He (Todd Gordon) made a last-minute decision to put fuel in it, gave me better balance for what I needed and the guys made the ‘money stop,’” Logano said of the ending. “I was the first guy out with four tires on.”
Behind Logano and Gordon in the top 5 were Kyle Busch in third, followed by Vickers fourth and rookie sensation Kyle Larson in fifth, the only rookie to run inside the top 20. Greg Biffle was sixth, Matt Kenseth seventh, while Clint Bowyer earned his second top-10 result in eighth. Paul Menard earned his fourth top 10 in five races, running ninth while pole sitter Tony Stewart rounded out the top 10.
Monday’s race started in bizarre fashion, under a rare, green-yellow flag condition for ten laps to ensure that the 1.5-mile quad-oval was dry and fit for racing. Jet dryers were still on the track during this period to help the process. Unfortunately, the air from the dryers managed to get inside the wheel wells and affect the hood and roof flaps of several cars. Keselowski’s Ford actually ended up with a damaged hood hinge, resulting in four pit stops during this period for repairs. Many additional cars came down pit road to fix the flaps as well. NASCAR allowed the cars affected to make their stops without penalty, provided that they not add fuel or change tires in the process.
Then, shortly after going green Dale Earnhardt, Jr.‘s day ended prematurely after just 14 laps when he misjudged his positioning and clipped the grass in Texas’ quad-oval. The miscue resulted in the car digging in, popping a wheelie and shooting the No. 88 Chevrolet straight into a SAFER-less wall, resulting in a fiery crash. Not only did that ruin Earnhardt’s day, but it also impacted the race of Hendrick teammate Jimmie Johnson. Johnson wound up with windshield damage and a bent left-front corner of his No. 48 Chevrolet. Losing multiple laps for repairs, Johnson ended up 25th on the day while Earnhardt Jr. was scored dead last (43rd).
“You can’t run through there they way they have these cars on the ground,” Earnhardt said of the incident. “Just a mistake on my part. I just didn’t know I was that close to the grass, and made a mistake.”
Kevin Harvick had another fast race car, one capable of going up and taking the lead away from teammate Stewart on Lap 25. However, Harvick’s run of bad luck continued after blowing an engine just a couple of laps later. Harvick ended up 42nd, sitting just 31 points inside the top 30 needed to make the Chase after his win at Phoenix.
A look at the Duck Commander 500 by the numbers. There were 18 lead changes among nine drivers, while seven cautions for 49 laps slowed the pace to 134.191 MPH.
Next weekend, the Sprint Cup Series heads to legendary Darlington Raceway for the Bojangles’ Southern 500. The Green flag is scheduled for 6:45 PM ET on Saturday night.
Keselowski - Busch Feud And Other Martinsville Sidebars To Follow
posted by Frontstretch Staff
Monday March 31, 2014
Keselowski, Busch Feud
Two former Penske Racing teammates didn’t play the part Sunday, Brad Keselowski and Kurt Busch starting a feud that almost kept the latter from Victory Lane. It all started during the competition caution, on Lap 43 when the two cars made contact on pit road. Keselowski claims Busch turned into him, breaking the front suspension on the Miller Lite Ford in an accident that also included Kasey Kahne.
“I started to check up and I just barely got in the back of him and Kurt (Busch) just accelerated and drove through us, absolutely drove through us,” Keselowski said inside the garage. “I tell you what, I’m about tired of his recklessness.”
So Keselowski went back on-track, found Busch’s No. 41 car and promptly slammed into its right side. Trying to flatten tires, it seemed the endeavor ultimately failed but still fired up Busch to the point he started ranting inside the car.
“Welp, guess we’re going to get in a fight afterwards,” Busch said. “I’m going to **** that dude’s ****ing face!”
After that, Busch got focused, starting a drive that would end with him in Victory Lane. Keselowski, meanwhile ran 38th and still remained frustrated after the race.
“Tell him come here. I’m right here,” he said when told Busch was OK with fighting. “He knows where I’m at. Leave Victory Lane and we’ll go.”
“He does awesome things for charity and he’s probably the most talented race car driver, but he’s also one of the dumbest, so put those three together.”
Busch’s response, initially was to downplay the incident. But when pressed in the media center, post-race he finally broke down a bit. Calling the contact by a damaged Keselowski a “punk-ass move,” Busch said he’d be enacting revenge at a time of his choosing.
At press time, Keselowski had calmed down a bit, claiming he wasn’t trying to wreck Busch on Twitter and that the rivalry would not continue into Texas. No penalties from NASCAR, by the way occurred during the race or are expected for either side.
Crafton Claims Rain-Delayed Kroger 250 Victory
Due to Saturday’s complete washout, the Camping World Truck Series held their second race of the season immediately after the Sprint Cup Series’ STP 500 wrapped up. With a 5:30 PM start time, some feared the race would be called early due to darkness. Ultimately, that was not a concern.
In a quick event, Matt Crafton took the lead from local favorite Timothy Peters on Lap 209. From there, Crafton held off the rest of the pack through two green-white-checkered restarts to claim his first career Martinsville grandfather clock.
In the scrum on the final restart, Darrell Wallace, Jr. rose up to second, while rookie Ben Kennedy was third. Johnny Sauter finished fourth while using the front end of his Toyota Tundra in a manner similar to a battering ram. Ryan Blaney rounded out the top-5 finishers.
For more on Sunday’s Camping World Truck Series race, please check out Kelly Crandall’s Tracking the Trucks race recap at Frontstretch.
Tires Fail To Adhere to Track
Goodyear tire engineers stated Sunday that it takes a track temperature of 80 degrees Fahrenheit in order for their tires to lay down a proper groove in the turns. On Sunday, the track temperature never reached that point during the race. As a result, tire wear was very high on Sunday. Rubber chunks would shear off, early during green-flag runs and gather just outside the racing groove.
Drivers would ask for new tires every 20 laps or so. If there was a caution, nearly the entire field would come in for fresh rubber. There were examples of
“The track conditions today were extremely challenging with the marbles,” said Kenseth, who recovered to run sixth while Stewart wasn’t so lucky (17th). “They just wouldn’t clean them up — I don’t know why. If you had warm tires and you got pushed up in there then you were going to lose 15 spots sometimes — it was that bad.”
If the story sounds familiar to readers, it should. Last Fall, track temperatures struggled to reach 80 degrees through much of the race. However, the tire issues that resulted were not quite as severe.
Check in with Matt and Jay on their site at CareyandCoffey.com.
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Bowles-Eye View · Thomas Bowles · Monday March 8, 2010
Brad Keselowski’s car was still sliding on its roof when the first email screaming at Carl Edwards landed in my inbox. Like a bounty of fireworks, fans exploded with all sorts of colorful wording, and I’m sure if you searched my Yahoo! account this morning typing in swears would send you more results than any other words in the English language.
Before we get going, let’s do a little housecleaning. Full disclosure: I’m in one of the more unique positions within the NASCAR media on this subject. My current driver diary on SI is with Brad Keselowski, who replaced none other than Carl himself. When you work with someone like that on a personal level, especially in Carl’s case, it’s hard not to get to know them off the track. That makes it a fine line for me to draw, with personal ties that bind always leading to a trickier analysis.
Next in this three-step process (I promise, we’ll get to the good stuff!), let’s get the facts out of the way for anyone living under a rock Sunday. On Lap 41 of the Cup race at Atlanta, Edwards and Keselowski entered the turn fighting for position. Edwards thought he had Keselowski cleared, and moved to the bottom only for Keselowski to tap his left rear bumper. A wreck ensued, with Keselowski continuing on unharmed while Edwards landed smack in the outside wall – sophomore Joey Logano winning “Best Supporting Actor In A Wreck” as his day got ruined by the mess. After seeing the replay, in public Edwards was gracious at first.
“I really thought it was his fault, but it really doesn’t look like it was as malicious as I thought,” he said, although he added, “Brad never gives me any room.”
“I was underneath him, tried to cut him a break but it was too late, he turned down,” said Keselowski later. “I apologized to him, but there’s nothing more you can do in that situation.”
Turns out for both men, a simple “sorry” wouldn’t be enough on this day. 150 laps’ worth of watching his car get fixed was enough to sour Edwards’ mood, and with three laps to go he found himself sitting there with a chance at payback. Keselowski, now 6th and headed towards a career-best day at Penske, passed his ailing car coming off turn 4 and heading down the front straightaway. There was one second for Edwards to bump and run, one of those life-changing, do-or-die moments you can’t take back.
The No. 99 pulled the trigger, and just like that the No. 12 was off to the catchfence, shockingly flipping before hitting the wall upside down to the shock of, well, pretty much everyone. The harrowing video was eerily reminiscent of the flip Carl endured at the hands of Brad at Talladega last April – you would just never expect it at an unrestricted track, even one with the speeds they carry at Atlanta.
But that’s another story for another day. A feud is what we’re talking about, and the second that car came to rest one was officially born. Brad was OK, but immediately used his Oscar post-race speech to immediately point NASCAR in the direction of disciplining Carl.
“To come back and intentionally wreck someone, that’s not cool,” said Keselowski. “He could have killed someone in the grandstands. And I know it’s a little ironic he’s got me saying that, but at least I didn’t do it intentionally (at Talladega, Kes was fighting for the win).”
Yet for those looking for additional penalties, that’s step 3 of 3; and a lot of you might be sorely disappointed. I don’t have a definite answer, but the school of thought in NASCAR-land after several off-the-record conversations is it looks like any suspension is a longshot at best. No, I wasn’t in the meeting, but I know enough from enough people to put the pieces together and tell you anything beyond a monetary fine would be a big surprise. The answer is expected sometime early this week.
“We talked with Carl after the race, and we have an understanding about it, and we will talk internally again as a group Monday or Tuesday,” is the official NASCAR word from VP of Competition Robin Pemberton. “And make any decision on if there will be any other actions that we will take.”
So, we’ll have to wait and see, but if I’m a betting man I’d say it’s 95/5 Carl’s racing March 21st at Bristol, TN. And honestly?
I think that’s fair.
Continuing with the rule of three, I go back to the school of thought I originally posted on SI article. We’ll expand upon them here.
One: NASCAR must live up to its policies.
In the middle of January, we all sat and watched Brian France mouth the words fans have been waiting on for years: We’ll let the drivers police themselves. No more bumpdrafting police, sure, but most importantly no crazy points penalties, fines, or suspensions for drivers being their aggressive selves on the track. Of course, no one thought the policy would be tested so quickly, with an ill-timed tap leading to one of the scarier flips in recent memory.
But a policy is a policy nonetheless. If you’re letting drivers handle payback themselves, a wreck is going to be a wreck no matter whether it’s a simple 360 or one where the car goes upside down. How can that policy be effective where you’re picking and choosing where it’s enforced? We complain all the time about NASCAR’s inconsistency, yet by asking for a penalty on Edwards you’re expecting them to start the season off inconsistent. How fast is too fast? Which leads me to point number two…
Two: The argument that Carl should spin Brad at Bristol, not Atlanta, just doesn’t hold up.
So often, we hear everyone refer to Bristol and Martinsville as if they’re the only two tracks on the circuit where you can spin someone out and not seriously hurt them. Well, here’s a news flash: anytime you strap into a car, as a race driver you put your life on the line. Think about how Joey Logano’s car flipped over at Dover, a one-mile concrete oval. Think about the tragedies we endured with Adam Petty and Kenny Irwin, stuck throttles at New Hampshire Motor Speedway. Think about the 3-4 deaths we hear about per year at local short tracks across the country.
It’s a horrible thing, but risk is just part of it every time you strap into a race car. You hope and pray that everything is safe, but you just never know. Denny Hamlin, for example, could have hit Keselowski at the wrong time in the wrong place at Homestead, sending the No. 88 hard into the wall and seriously injuring him. Do higher speeds increase the risk? Yes. But the risk is there nonetheless the second you start driving the cars in circles … so you’re either going to allow retaliation or clamp down on it like you’re the riot police. There’s just one problem with that …
Three: You’re never going to stop drivers from retaliating on the race track.
Let’s push any NASCAR rules, regulations, etc. aside for a second. The thing that gets me is how many fans have emailed me as if this wreck is the first time anybody’s ever gone after someone else on the race track. Um … have you been living under a rock? I know this sport’s gotten politically correct the last few years, but I didn’t think things were that bad people had actually forgotten how things usually work in racing.
1) Driver “A” makes a mistake and takes out Driver “B.”
2) Driver “B” either forgives Driver “A” or, if Driver “A” has crossed him in the past (or if he’s having a particularly bad day), he waits for the right opportunity to enact revenge on said driver.
It’s not rocket science. It’s called simple human emotion, and it’s not like an ignition switch in the car – people can’t turn it off. These drivers are the best in the world because they’re innately competitive, and there’s always going to be conflicts that end in bad blood. Whether it’s morally acceptable or not doesn’t change the fact that it’s going to happen. So what do you do? Do you castrate your drivers, keeping them from showing any emotion and making them so scared of disciplinary action they run single-file, afraid to take any risks, or do you let the drivers be themselves, understanding all 43 of them signed on the dotted line to be a part of a sport they love?
I’d go with answer B, personally. And that’s why I think we need to move on from this incident. No one would be talking about it to this degree if the cars didn’t flip. Yes, Carl was 156 laps down. Yes, he could have done his payback more tactfully. But it’s not like Brad is guiltless through the years, either. Note Montoya’s public comments, and I know of several drivers who have stated off the record they feel the same way.
I like Carl. I like Brad. They’re both great people. Like a sad parent, I hate that they’re fighting. But I also feel like you can’t take the “race” out of the “racer.” Suspending Carl would be equivalent to doing that for not just him but 42 other drivers who now have to wonder where to draw the line when competing against others on the race track. And isn’t that mentality one we want to get rid of?
So let’s all say a prayer nothing bad happened, chalk this up as a racing deal and move on. And I just have a feeling these two will figure out their differences over the next couple of weeks. Because when you’re two grown-ups, sometimes you don’t need Big Brother to work everything out.
By NASCAR’s actions the beginning of the year, they seemed to indicate they understood that. Let’s just hope they follow through.
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Spot on and well said!
I have no problem with hard racing and beating and banging. But what Carl did was stupid and he should be punished for it. You cant’ justify what he did on the track after wrecking himself.
BK’s crew should have went down and kicked the SH!& out of the 99 crew, if Carl is going to run and hide. What a $#%^head. I will hate Carl as a person and a driver for eternity now. Park him for the next race. I figured BK might be dead when I first saw his car rolling to a stop.
Carl might want to switch to wearing some darker gloves in the future. Those white ones really made it clear how intentional his wrecking of Keselowski was. :)
With NASCAR’s yet to be proven new stance of “let the boys be boys” to put it simply, I really don’t know how I would rule on this case. The fact that his actions led to the melee of the restart should also be factored in too.
I really don’t like Carl to begin with, but NASCAR kinda got thrown the worst case scenario for the first test of what actions they’ll take against a driver for crap like Carl pulled. So I’ll wait and see. My guess… $200k/200 points because NASCAR never lives up to what it says it is going to do.
One of issue that has bugged me for years is allowing cars to stay on the track that are more the X number of laps down. When the number of laps downs is large, like 155 for Carl, it is easy to tell when they can’t pick up any more positions and should be pulled off the track. Each track is unique in the number of laps down where it would be hard to pull someone from the track. 10 laps down at ‘Dega with 10 to go wouldn’t be a problem, while at Bristol it would be. But I really think they should get these 10+ lap down cars off the track as soon as they can.
If NASCAR penalizes Carl then all the drivers will be left wondering where the line is. If NASCAR doesn’t penalize Carl then the message is “do what thou will”. Both options have their downside.
NASCAR is making a huge mistake by not sitting Edwards out for at the very least the rest of the season. And if Roush doesn’t fire him NOW, then it just proves what I’ve said all along that Roush is a stupid jerk! Edwards biggest problem, other than he’s a brainless moron, is that Keselowski is 10 times the driver he is! If he’s that jealous, then get him off the track and out of NASCAR (at ALL levels) permanently, and do it now! And while they at at it, get the entire Roush organisation out of NASCAR too! The less the other drivers and teams have to deal with these two morons (Roush AND Edwards), the better off NASCAR wil be!
I don’t think Carl meant for BK to take a flying ride like that, he just wanted to spin him, but the wing sealed the deal on what happened. The wing is going away, so that should theoretically reduce these flyaway flips when the cars get backwards. You can’t tell the drivers to have at it, then when one does, go nuts penalizing him. Parking him the last three laps was enough (lets face it, whens the last time even that happened? Not for awhile, it doesn’t happen often).
Let the drivers police themselves. Maybe if BK realizes that other drivers are willing to risk HIS life to retaliate when BK takes them out, he’ll cool his jets a bit and think about whether he really wants to get into that other driver. And maybe Carl will remember the risks now that he’s seen what can happen when he retaliates. I think this incident taught each of them something they won’t forget.
It’s like being a parent – kids don’t get some lessons until they learn them for themselves.
I will admit that I found BK’s calling for NASCAR to retaliate was a little like a bully running to the teacher to cry about getting beat up after another kid serves him up a dose of what he’d been shoveling.
Let the boys be boys…Nascrap put the wing on the cars….95% chance with a spoiler the car wouldn’t have gone airbone! that is nascrap’s fault. Now all you Carl haters, the reason those coward drivers of yours don’t go see Carl or his crew is that they would leave much the worse for wear!!All those who watch the sissy boy drivers will have to learn to live with it!! It goes on every week at tracks all around this country!!
I’ll just say in Hockey you can fight if you want to send a message but if you “attempt to injure” typically you get kicked out of the game and suspended.
I was pretty much a Carl Edwards fan until yesterday. The original incident was Edward’s fault as much as it was Keselowski’s. Edwards should be fined and suspended. He not only intentionally tried to hurt Keselowsk. He also endangered the fans. Any other sport would do it. Brittany Grimes from Baylor was suspended for cold cocking an opposing player. This was no different.
I can’t decide which response is dumber , Carls or yours . IT DOESN“T MATTER WHICH TRACK CARL RETALIATES AT ! Let me clue you in on something Tom , as important as Brads safety was , the fans safety was also a very big concern . You might remember Bobby Allison at Talladega almost getting into the stands , same with Edwards . Turning Brad around at Martinsville , or Bristol , or anywhere you’re not traveling 185 MPH would obviously be a lot better idea .
I’m taking a lot of the Carl hater comments with a grain of salt, because I suspect that a lot of them are also Junior fans whose allegiance to Junior has spread to BK since he was driving for Junior up to last year – a lot of the comments sound a lot like what the Junior fans sound like whenever someone messes with THEIR driver.
Spoken like a true bully. You and horsehead need to lay off the roids. So your answer is whomever is the biggest bully should win. What a wanker.
Horsehead should be punished just like a pitcher that intentionally beans a batter.
Heh .. NA$CAR can’t have it both ways, they HAVE to let this lie for now. ‘Intention’ is hard to prove and on a racetrack anything can happen to cause trouble, especially with these idiotic COTs. (The WING is dead, long live the WING but good riddence !!)
Maybe Crazy Carl managed to land on his head practicing one of his backflips and went off for a minute. On the other side, Brad K is a ‘throw-back’ racer and races hard all the time, you can’t fault that, it’s what this sport was built on.
Remember what Cale used to say .. “he crashed me .. so I crashed him back”. So .. I say let the guys handle it themselves. NA$CAR doesn’t need to backslide back into legislating whether or not these guys are driving ‘agressively’ or not.
This is the lifestyle they chose.
Optinions always Welcome. 8^)
First let me say I am a JR fan, but Brad got the big head driving for JR> his ego was way over sized. Now he thinks he knows it all. Finally someone put him in his real place!!! Hope he has enough sense to stay there. He may not get off so easy the next time. JR needed to teach Brad some track manners, He got what he deserved!
How many race fans thought that Dale Sr. was too aggressive? How many think just the opposite? Paybacks have been a part of racing seance the first race ever run, even before NASCAR, and they will always be a part of the sport. Today’s newer race fans have no idea of what true racing is about, they are too “politically correct” to understand what goes through the mind of a driver that has been sent into the wall by someone. What goes through their mind is “payback”. No driver wants to turn another driver upside down. That happened because of the design of the rear spoiler catching the air. That is not the fault of any driver. Paybacks are going to be a part of the sport just like they are going to be in any other sport. NASCAR, at the beginning of the year, said that they were letting the drivers be drivers. I expect a fine and probation for Carl, mainly because of his driving the wrong way on pit road in defiance to being parked, but for the incident involving Brad, if they do anything more than the fine they are cutting their own nose to spite their own face.
Perhaps I’m a bit biased, since being a Harvick fan, my driver got parked for taking someone out… in a truck race at Martinsville going 60 mph in a turn. For consistency’s sake, Edwards should be parked.
However, I have another reason for not parking him: it would make Carl look like a hero. Let’s face it, Kes isn’t a popular driver, and there’s probably people out there who think anyone who spins the kid deserves a medal. The last thing anyone needs is fans with “Free Carl” signs at the next track.
Besides, let’s face it: NASCAR can’t penalize Carl so it hurts anyway. Fining a guy with millions and taking points away from somebody who isn’t going to win the Championship anyway don’t send a message. The only appropriate penalty here would be for Carl to go down to the Penske shop (without bodyguards or handlers or anything) and apologize individually to everyone on the #12 team. Which he should do anyway.
First off, I did not see the race yesterday, but when I heard that “Big-Head Brad” got dumped, my thought was that he got what he deserved. But upon seeing what happened and that Edwards was involved, I do not condone what Carl did, and I thought Carl used very poor judgement. Then I prepared for all those Edwards haters, and I am guessing this is about 99% of NASCAR fans right now (Pun with the 99% intentional), to call for Edwards to be kicked out of NASCAR forever! Hmmmm! I thought that Brad should of had his Talladega win pulled for the same reason. And Tony’s win at Daytona last July! I’m wondering if, had the roles been reversed and it was Keselowski turning Edwards, would you all be making the same comments? Or if it had of been any other driver who turned Kelelowski (Denny Hamlin comes to mind), would you be launching your attacks on that driver? I think not!
It is pure luck that BK did not get seriously hurt on that wreck.
Luckily the car was far enough from the wall when the end over started.
BKs front left tire and fender hit the top of the wall first eating some of the shock then hitting the A pillar.
If the car was closer to the wall during the rotation it would have been A pillar first and that might have been the end of BK.
That was a close one.
Brad got what was coming to him. He wrecks way too many people. The worst thing that happened to this kid was driving for JR motorsports. Why? No matter how he performed on the track, JR Nation at large was cheering like hell for him because he was driving the 88. When he was winning races by virtue of his good equipment, I get that. But when he was wrecking people (not just Hamlin, Edwards, or Busch), they were still cheering his ass. That inflated his ego, and suddenly, he thought he was all that. Carl’s stock just went up in my book.
Carl more or less admitted during his post-race interview that he wrecked Brad on purpose . I say park him for a race and see if his attitude improves!
The statement from NASCAR “let the boys be boys” does not apply to a driver coming out of the garage onto the track over 100 laps down to intentionally wreck another driver. I fully expect at least a 6-figure fine, point deductions, and personal apologies.
Well said. A little dip into Carl’s wallet and an up close and personal chat is all that is needed…for now. In the mean time just let ‘em race.
I used to race and my rule was always if you wreck me 1X, I’ll turn around a wreck you 2X or atleast 2x as bad. So I guess if I was Brad, Carl could expect a waded up car at Bristol & Martinsville.
The more I think about it, the more I think NASCAR should park him.
Everyone knows that these new cars tend to flip over a heck of a lot easier than they should when they get turned around at speed. And they were racing at NASCAR’s fastest track.
So knowing that makes Edwards’ actions all that more dangerous, especially to the fans. Carl should have waited until after the race and confronted Keselowski then. No one would be saying “park him” if he threw a few punches after the race.
Some of you people need to give your head a shake. What if brad had been killed, or the car had gone in the stands, what would you have given carl for a penalty? Watch the video, it was close. That incident wasn’t about racing, it was stupidity.
As a Carl Edwards fan, I was deeply dissapointed, to watch him take such a cheap shot. Being a hundred and fifty some laps down and blatantly and intentionaly wrecking a driver, who was, at the time, running in the top ten, he deserves to be suspended, for one race, as was Kevin Harvick a few years ago. If NASCAR does not nip such a blatant practice, in the bud, where will it end? I believe in self-policing, but Carl Edwards crossed the line.
I think what Keselowski got yesterday was a much-needed reality check. I used to like him a lot more, but his ego has gotten way overblown. I don’t condone what Carl did, but I hope something good can come from this—that Keselowski’s ego can be trimmed down a bit and that would be good for everyone in the Cup series.
Everyone makes mistakes and bad decisions in the heat of the moment. NASCAR drivers are human beings just like the rest of us. We all know Carl didn’t intend for Brad to go airborne, so let’s not judge Carl himself based on one split-second decision that I am certain he now wishes had turned out differently.
Let’s also remember that history is a factor. If yesterday’s incident had been the only time those two had gotten together on the track, Carl would have looked at it just as a “racing deal” and moved on. But we all know that Brad has had his share of run-ins with Carl and other drivers, and that history led to the payback more than the single incident early in this race.
My opinion: Carl should get a minor penalty of money and/or points. NASCAR does need to take this opportunity to remind drivers that safety of both other drivers and fans is important and should be taken into consideration when considering payback. But I think that is all they should do. Given the severity of the incident, I truly believe that these two drivers will somehow work things out on their own.
Carl should have known better, and tried to wreck Brad on the backstretch away from the grandstands and fans.
That said, I’d fine him $50k (sent to Victory Junction Camp) and 50 points for driving the wrong way on pit road, and probation till the end of the year.
The biggest problem I have with this is that it dramatically affected the end of the race. NA$CAR dodged a bullet because Kurt was able to pull out the win but what if he hadn’t? If there wasn’t two restarts, how many other cars would have had better days? That the real issue in my mind.
If you look at how Carl spun BK, he was just trying to send him through the grass. If he wanted to “hurt” him, as some of you think, he would have nudged him the other way which would have sent him into the wall. Carl could have went “Spencer” on BK. It calmed Kurt Busch down. His mouth got him decked.
Besides, how did a beat up car catch a top 5 or top 10 running car to be able to spin him?
BK got what he deserved. CE did what everyone else has wanted to do for a long time…he wrecked him. im sure he didnt mean to make him airborne but that really was a wing issue. they will fine CE monetarily but not park him..if they park him, they will be shootin themselves in the foot. this “drama” brings excitement to the sport and more ppl will watch to see what CE/BK will do…
I know I’m going to sound like a BK fan here, which I’m not, but I can’t see how this is his fault. Looking at the original incident, Carl turned down into Brad. Why is that Brad’s fault? Carl’s spotter should have told him he didn’t have room. Why should BK lift to let Edwards in and get passed by 2-3 cars in the process? Same at Talladega last year. Carl was blocking and turned down into Brad. Brad is racing hard all the time. Isn’t that what we want?
I just knew Tom would see nothing wrong with Carl’s retailation. ‘It’s all part of the danger of racing, you need let the drivers show emotion,etc., etc.’
I got news for you Tom — when it’s that blatant and it is at that high of a speed that is just plain stupidity. As the old saying there is a time and place for everything.
I wonder if you and Carl would feel the same way if BK or a fan was killed? Maybe a charge of manslaughter would give you pause.
NASCAR said to have it, but I’m sure that doesn’t mean anything goes. The response should be 200 points (one race) and at least $200,000 (one race’s winnings).
If Carl wanted to bump him after the race, swipe his side during the race, punch him after the race it would be more acceptable.
Also, Danny Hamlin should have been penalized last year for the Homestead incident with BK. At least he had the balls to owe it. Carl’s response after the race in interviews and on his facebook were nothing short of rationalization of a poor decision. He should man up and just say “I stepped over the line, apologize, and accept whatever punishment NASCAR feels appropriate.” Then I’d respect him again.
As for BK I have thought he has handled both the Hamlin and Edwards conflicts with class. I see him as a hard driver, not a dirty driver. That gets respect in my book any day.
What Carl Edwards did is unacceptable. There is no ‘boys will be boys’. This drama stuff is bull. Let’s start flipping everyone over at Talladega and Daytona every time someone is mad at another driver. Carl Edwards has some serious anger built inside him and it exploded on Sunday. Another car could have come along and hit Keselowski. Would that have been okay that they were involved in a accident created by a stupid feud too?
When Allison and Yarborough had there famous incident at Daytona in ’79 they wrecked again at the next race. Other racers came up to them and told them that the stupidity had to stop. Edwards and Keselowski should not continue ‘feuding’ as it is not good for the sport for a driver to be eventually killed by these unacceptable and dangerous moves. This fake ‘macho’ activity is ridiculous.
Carl Edward as a racer and human being should have better sense than spin someone out at 190 mph. He should no how easy it is to flip over a car with the rear wing. There should be consequences and penalties to his actions. I would have felt this strongly about Edwards if he would have spun and flipped other drivers like Kyle Busch, Kevin Harvick, Jeff Gordon, Dale Jr., Joe Nemecheck etc.
There is no excuse for his animal like behavior. Edwards helped ruin the finish of the race and he was over 150 laps down! He wrecked a car that was in the top 10! More cars were involved in a wreck after the caution he helped bring out. Millions of dollars down the drain. And instead of talking about a great finish that could have been between Busch and Montoya people talk about the stupid move by Edwards.
Unfortunately this seems to be Carl’s MO. After a race, he left his pit, went onto the track and slammed into Dale Jr’s car while he had his hand dangling out of his car on the cool-down lap. Then he went to VL and grabbed Jr by his firesuit and had his fist doubled up. Next, after a race he grabbed Matt Kenseth by his shirt while being interviewed, pulled back his fist like he was going to hit him, then smirked as he walked away. Next after taking 10-12 cars out at Dega, he goes into Kevin’s garage and grabs him in a choke hold and tries to punch him until he was restrained. Now he deliberately tries 3 times to hit Brad before being succesful. This wreck was just one more in the list of unreasonable actions Carl has taken. This man is unstable. He cannot control his rage or his actions. If Nascar does not take adequate action, he will eventually hurt or kill a driver or fan in the stands. He is out of control.
Forget the rivalry, forget the drivers involved, forget the violent nature of the crash. Bottom line: It is absolutely inexcusable, under any circumstances, for a car that is 150-plus laps down to intentionally wreck a car racing for a top 5 finish with less than 5 laps left. Based on that ALONE, Edwards is more than deserving of a lengthy suspension. He broke just about everything in the book of racing etiquette with that move. And even if Keselowski doesn’t retaliate, someone else will, because that wreck, caution, and subsequent restart/pileup totally ruined the race for a bunch of other drivers.
Edwards will be the least popular driver in the garage if he’s at the track next week.
Carl causes wreck with Brad at Talledega.
Carl causes wreck #1 with Brad at Atlanta.
Carl takes out Brad at Atlanta.
Carl shouldn’t be suspended? Boy, do I feel stupid. I guess I should have paid better attention in my Logic classes at college.
WHO’S IS STUPED?
“NASCAR is making a huge mistake by not sitting Edwards out for at the very least the rest of the season. And if Roush doesn’t fire him NOW, then it just proves what I’ve said all along that Roush is a stupid jerk! Edwards biggest problem, other than he’s a brainless moron, is that Keselowski is 10 times the driver he is! If he’s that jealous, then get him off the track and out of NASCAR (at ALL levels) permanently, and do it now! And while they at at it, get the entire Roush organisation out of NASCAR too! The less the other drivers and teams have to deal with these two morons (Roush AND Edwards), the better off NASCAR wil be!”
Look at the first incident, then look at the front of Brad’s car after. No damage on the fender, no damage on the right side, all the damage is on the NOSE. No way Carl came down on him, so… payback is a b**ch, although maybe a little too obvious.
Mr. Bowles.. A blatant error Carl made was he didn’t apologize AT ALL for the incident..not to NASCAR, the teams involved, his sponsors, the drivers, the TV fans..or most importantly the fans in the stands where impact occurred. That would have gone a little ways in defusing this incident. BUT, instead Carl spoke with the media all the while having a little smirk on his face..looking like he wanted to burst out laughing. I could care less about the petty feud between the two of them…but when a driver takes a wounded car around the track for 150+ laps and while riding around he plots his revenge…plays it out..no apologies..and posts his lists of reasons on his Facebook…it makes me wonder about that driver. It makes me more then wonder…it is downright scary, creepy, and has me wondering if Carl is playing with a full deck. We have all seen his temper at work..with Stewart, Kenseth, Earnhardt and several other drivers. What should they do with him? Well maybe some “anger management therapy” would help…or maybe he should buy his own team..it seems to have helped another hothead…I just hope it happens before something bigger happens. We all have our demons..and Carl’s seem to be edging ever closer to the surface.
No Spin, your name is as much CRAP as Bill O’Riely saying he is a no spin zone. You don’t like Carl of Roush. Well too bad. Some of us DO!! BK needs to grow up and stop starting fights he can’t win. I am glad he was not hurt and of course I am glad no fans were hurt. But did he care about Carl or the fans last year? Jack is not going to fire a driver who won nine races in one season two years ago. Carl had no intention of BK taking that ride, but he did hit him. Nascar should fine Carl and tell both Carl and BK that if they have anymore suspitious run ins then they both sit out a race. I am not thrilled with the result of Carl hitting Brad but I am a Ford racing fan and I have gotten sick of other makes drivers pushing our guys around.(Mark Martin would never be agressive enough) Well I guess we aren’t going to take it anymore.
I only hope that Edwards is running for the championship at the end of the season, BK is out of it, and it’s payback time for pinhead Carl.
I wonder if Carl has learned that he may choose his actions, but not the consequences? (I meant to shoot him, but not kill him.) Would he feel as smug if someone in the stands had been hurt by debris? If Brad had been injured? Nascar did mention that ‘have at it boys’ wasn’t a get out of jail free card. I’m not saying that BK hasn’t caused some wrecks…but so has Carl. I think an appropriate consequence would be to make Carl pay Penske for the car…body, engine, everything…out of his own pocket. Then Nascar should sit him out for a race or two, or make him take an anger management course. Didn’t they have Tony stewart do that before?
Anyone who claims that the people defending Brad Keselowski are only doing so because they are Junior fans is just plain ignorant. I’m a fan of BK’s because he drives like Junior’s dad and not like Junior.
Anyone who follows ALL of Nascar’s top series rather than just Cup knows that Kes is a reckless, rough driver who has had something like this coming for a looooong time. Welcome to the wonderful world of consequences, Brad. Try to learn something from your visit.
That said, Carl picked the wrong time and wrong place to introduce Kes to the concept that every action sparks a reaction. Big, fast tracks like Atlanta are too dangerous for that sort of stuff.
Nascar’s between a rock and a hard place with this one and I wouldn’t want to have to make that decision. Technically Carl is the aggressor but Kes is like that kid who used to kick you under the desk so that the teacher would punish you for fidgeting. Nascar’s response should be firm about the unacceptable nature of intentional wrecking at high-speed tracks while bearing in mind that Kes deserves to secure sponsorship from Maytag and Whirlpool both for Bristol and Martinsville.
LOL,Good Lord,Why say you are sorry if you are not?Why lie about it?Just more P.C.crap!Oh,I’m sorry!NOT!!!
The only driver I’m going to mention is Mark Martin. I’m a fan back to ASA and he is regarded as one of the most respected drivers. BUT…If my driver did the same thing I would be in total agreement to fine him and take points heavily and park him for a race.
The reason is this. It’s one thing to do a little sumtin’, sumtin’, in retaliation in the corner or after the race. That’s always been a part of racing and I think it’s what NA$CAR had in mind when the took the cuffs off of the drivers. But if a driver’s anger results in endangering fans, pit crew, or other drivers then it is blatantly unacceptable. NA$CAR should be able to penalize heavily in this situation without it meaning they’re going “back” on the original intent. There must be a message sent that there is a limit otherwise NA$CAR stands to look like the usual buffoons.
This From Kyle Petty – I like the pair of balls comment.
Kyle Petty: “No. His fingerprints are all over this. He can’t wear anygloves. Let me tell you something and I started to say it before. If this is our sport and we depend on NASCAR and we want to put on the best show for the fans, we’re in this together. This is a black eye on the media. This is a black eye on NASCAR. This is a black eye on the competitors. This is a black eye on everybody. I don’t care. This is wrong. This was a blatant, flagrant foul and he ought to be parked. He shouldn’t show up at Bristol and that’s just my opinion. Brad Keselowski said the ball’s in NASCAR’s court. We’re going to see if they’ve got a pair now. I’m just throwing that out there. They need to park him and send him home.”
Nascar can’t sit Edwards because now they have a great possibility to increase their somewhat poor TV ratings (however,Atlanta rating was up from last year) having this rivalry. Yes, it’s about money.
Thank God Keselowski or a fan wasn’t hurt. Even Carl didn’t want that. What’s done is done. I agree that if the car didn’t get air-born no one would be talking about this matter to this degree. Fine and probation. I’m a Mark Martin fan but I wouldn’t want to watch 43 Mark Martins racing every week.
If I was BK and they do not suspend Carl the only thing you could be sure about is at the drivers meeting at Bristol I would warn all the other drivers and I would tell Carl to his face that he will be wrecked a few times this season and he can kiss any chance of winning a championship this season goodbye because I’m gonna see to it.
I AGREE,WITH PEPPER…100% HE, ABSOULTY,NEEDS TO BE PARKED! CHECK HIS RECORD. HOUDY DOODYN NEEDS FOR KEVIN, TO WIPE THAT GRIN, OFF HIS FACE!
Forget about a penalty for Carl.
The owners and drivers will police themselves like back in the old days.
The owners will clamp down on the drivers and tell them to quit wrecking their cars for revenge. If NASCAR backs up their mouth and let`s em “have at it” everything will be fine.
I think a Jimmy Spencer type nose re-alignment on Brad would go a long way to fix that boy.
Carl could have hurt fans or worse killed someone. He’s not sorry he did it and what I saw of the first wreck It was him who came down on Brad. He took a race car and in anger triggered what could easily been much worse. This is not the first time he’s done something this stupid. Didn’t he crash into Dale Jr.‘s driver side during a caution while Jr had his hand out the window near the window net? He is totally out of control. I’d like to see about 6 race vacation and oh say $500,000 fine. That would get his attention.
NASCAR has let Brad wreck dozens of other drivers in NW and SC and has not come down on him (aside from a minor talking to once that didn’t do anything). So was Carl supposed to assume they’d say something this time, especially after the “have at it” speech”? Of course not.
NASCAR clearly gave the signal to Carl and the others: you’ll need to take care of this. NASCAR has set the stage for this, and there should be no shock this happened. NASCAR, Brad, and Carl all share the blame for this incident.
Another thought: why is it you don’t see other drivers messing with Carl? Because they’ve learned not to from past experience. They may not like him in the garage, but they don’t mess with him, either. The difference between him and Dale Senior is that Senior wore the Intimidator suit with pride, whereas Carl masks his in his nice guy persona. If he walked around like a gunslinger instead, nobody would be shocked by this.
The fans wanted racing like it used to be. Well I’m guessing a lot of fans have forgotten what racing used to be like. Here it is. Have at it.
I respect Kyle Petty a great deal for what he’s done with VJ, and as a member of the Petty family, but this is one of those times I have to disagree with him – how’s this a black eye on the media exactly? Or the other competitors?
Had one second to decide????? What about the lap before when Carl tryed and missed? I lost a lot of respect for Carl Edwards when he went to punch Matt Kenseth, he has a problem. Park him!!!
I agree Tom, but its more like Edwards had 150 LAPS to plan his revenge.
THAT is premeditated if there ever was any pre meditating.
Blatant disregard for anyone else but himself and REVENGE!Can you even imagine.. this guy is a deputy sherriff as well? Wow! Carl Edwards with power to tell you what to do, a badge, and a gun..remind me NEVER to drive in MO. I might do something to inadvertantly PO Mr. Ed and then who knows whjat will happen. Ill probabaly get the pit manuever, handcuffed and then shot!
The guy needs seriuos help! Sybil comes to mind with Crazy Carls split personality.
nascar couldnt do anything to carl because of the statements they made at the beginning of the year dont really agree with how carl handled but he did it and its over now no one got hurt so we cant keep saying what if what we need to look at is that nascar for a change has stuck to their word (let the boys be boys )of course right now with the way attendance(did anyone else notice all the empty seats at atlanta ) and tv viewership is going nascar would do anything to boost their game so if anyone is going to blame anyone it needs to be nascar
Most drunk drivers don’t mean to kill people when they drive drunk but they do. I’m all for the drivers policing themselves, but it needs to be done so not to put the fans in danger. spin the guy on a caution lap or leaving the pits hell kick his ass in the garage if you want but turning another car at 190mph in front of the grandstands is just stupid and that is what Carl should be punished for.
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