The Frontstretch: Did You Notice? ... It's Not Just The Economy, Stupid; Tony The Terrible?, And Testing by Thomas Bowles -- Wednesday March 24, 2010

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Did You Notice? … The debate raging on over all the empty seats at Bristol? Everyone’s trying to figure out if the answer lies in the economy, a different style of racing, or just plain ol’ fan disinterest.

So, which is it?

I’ve heard some strong, compelling arguments for #1. People claim that tough times mean tough choices when it comes to Bristol. After all, it used to be the hottest ticket in sports, where even the cheap seats didn’t come cheap. The lowest price for Bristol single-day walkup tickets was $93 – compared to a $40 seat currently available for Richmond’s Saturday night Cup show in May.

Bristol is also notorious for jacking up the prices on their hotels. Although TV people can sometimes get lucky, I can definitively tell you I’ve stayed somewhere that was a $350-a-night rate for the August race. I remember looking at the invoice and thinking two things:

1) I have the best job ever that someone’s willing to spend that much for me to cover my favorite sport.
2) Thank God that’s not coming out of my checking account.

But I know the fans aren’t so lucky. There’s nightmarish stories about three-night minimums and travel expenses, totals that run you well over $1,000 for a three-day weekend that shouldn’t cost half that much.

Considering Bristol’s within shouting distance of five other tracks on the circuit (Atlanta, Talladega, Martinsville, Charlotte, and “$40” Richmond) I can understand why fans would choose to save money and head elsewhere. And with 158,000 seats (only Daytona and Indy have more) it’s not exactly like you’re selling out a track like Chicagoland or Phoenix, which have less than half that capacity.

When you put it like that, it just sounds so easy to just jump on that economic bandwagon and bite, doesn’t it? NASCAR has you hook, line, and sinker, as do several of our track promoters ‘round the country who refuse to believe the racing itself is the problem.

Well, I’m sorry guys: I just don’t buy it.

We’ll build our argument from the ground up. By and large, most fans have expressed displeasure at Bristol’s repaving (in a Frontstretch poll last week, 62 to 38 percent favored the “old” Bristol). When that happens, you’re going to have numerous people choose to turn their backs on the product if the ticket price still places it within the top 5 best races in the sport each year. After all, the Super Bowl doesn’t have a love-hate relationship with three-fifths of the NFL fan base, does it?

Let me list just a few comments from Matt McLaughlin’s race recap column on Monday to get my point across. Keep in mind Matt’s column is well-read; we’re not just talking five grumpy people jumping online to whine about a race they didn’t see:

Secesh: “I’m just glad I went to Bristol back in the 80’s.”
Babydufus: “Bristol was the first race I’ve watched live in about a year. It’s also my last.”

But let’s move on to the third and most important theory listed for Bristol, that attendance is being directly affected by the economy. I just decided to pick five NASCAR tracks at random (one short track, two intermediates, one superspeedway, one triangular road/oval) and looked at their Spring attendance dates for the last five years. Keep in mind the economic crash didn’t happen until 2008, so it’s hard to skew the numbers before then:

Spring Attendance Chart:

Year Texas Dover Martinsville Pocono Talladega
2005 211,000 150,000 67,000 100,000 155,000
2006 189,000 145,000 65,000 100,000 155,000
2007 191,000 145,000 66,500 105,000 160,000
2008 190,000 133,000 63,000 105,000 156,000
2009 176,300 100,000 63,000 105,000 142,000

As you can see, there’s a big skew downward in numbers between 2008 to 2009. But that doesn’t mean there wasn’t an overall decline as a whole before the crash. And regardless of the economic difficulties, these five tracks are producing shocking numbers: Attendance has declined a staggering 14.1 percent for them over this time period. This downward spiral for NASCAR overall continues in 2010, with only one of the first five races we’ve been to (Las Vegas) posting an increase in overall attendance.

Now that I’ve thrown all these numbers at you, let’s keep something else in mind: NASCAR is exaggerating the totals as of late. Remember the Fontana incident, where attendance was listed at 72,000 while reporters threatened to rebel, they were so certain the numbers were inflated? Most pegged the attendance in the 50 or 60,000 range, a 10,000+ difference that many sources off the record will tell you seems to be a pattern this season. So keep that in mind when looking at the numbers for the past three years. After all, when your product’s starting to go downhill the last thing you need is reporters writing about severe attendance declines – so it’s a simple, basic marketing tactic. Fudge the numbers by as much as you can (to the edges of justification) in order to minimize the bleeding.

Here’s one other question to ask yourself: are other sports experiencing the same types of attendance problems?

Not exactly. We’ll start with college football, where you’d expect numbers would be down in these economically depressed areas, right? After all, Alabama (Talladega) and Michigan have severe drops in NASCAR attendance, which means fans must not be going to any other sporting events, either.

So here’s a quick look at college attendance figures from 2009:
U. of Michigan: 108,933 (+362 people per game from 2008) (0.3 percent increase)
U. of Alabama: 92,012 (-120 per game from 2008) (0.1 percent decline)

Michigan fans didn’t have a problem supporting Big Blue this year, even though they failed to make a Bowl game for the second straight season. But as for the two NASCAR races out in the central part of the state? Not so much.

Hmm. That’s interesting … so fans still have the money to spend on college football but not NASCAR. I understand your rebuttal; it’s a one-day show, so hotels and all sorts of auxiliary expenses aren’t involved. But the ticket prices are comparable – Alabama vs. Florida is an $85 ticket in 2010, for example – so these people are still shelling out money to attend these games. It’s not like these races are being held in desolate areas, either; for Bristol there’s 350,000 people in the Tri-Cities area alone who wouldn’t need the extra expenses of gas or a hotel to attend the race.

And let’s not forget the power of passion above all. If you’re a sports fan, wouldn’t you want to spend your cash rooting for your favorite team (or in this case, driver)? Why cut out a race and still go see college football if you like NASCAR that much more? Sounds to me like the racing wasn’t as interesting, so that’s the sporting event families decided to cut.

Let’s move on to another easy comparison: TV ratings. It would make sense that if fans are staying home, they’re still turning on the boob tube to watch every Sunday, right? After all, 98.2 percent of Americans have one, and none of these races require cable or satellite to watch. But here’s where the economic theory really runs into the ground: ratings for NASCAR races through the first four races of 2010 are 24 percent lower than they were five years ago – when the economy was stable.

But let’s dig deeper. Remember how bad this year’s 500 ratings were? Let’s compare that to some big event ratings of other major sports, and we see a positive trend over the last five years:

Baseball: World Series Ratings – 2005 vs 2009: 7.2 percent increase (11.1 vs 11.9)
Football: Super Bowl Ratings – 2005 vs 2010: 8.6 percent increase (41.1 vs 45.0)
Basketball: NBA Finals Ratings – 2005 vs 2009: 2.4 percent increase (8.2 vs 8.4)
Hockey: Stanley Cup Finals Ratings – 2004 (BEFORE a one-year lockout decimated attendance) vs 2009: 19.2 percent increase (2.6 vs 3.1)

Oops! Almost forgot us.
NASCAR: Daytona 500 Ratings – 2005 vs 2010: 29.3 percent *decrease (10.9 vs 7.7)

I know I just threw out a heck of a lot of numbers at you. If you wanted, I could go really in-depth and talk about how the regular season numbers for all these major sports are up while NASCAR is down. But I think I’ve made my point. So the next time someone tells you the economy is the problem, that all these fans are staying away ‘cause of money and the second things pick up, they’ll be back – show ‘em some numbers.

People might say I’m being pessimistic. Look, I think NASCAR’s done a phenomenal job with changes designed to improve the product on the race track this season. But it pisses me off when people say, “It’s the economy. It’s the economy.” I’m sorry, but are you blind? Are you in the trenches, talking to fans, talking to people in bars, and getting a barometer on the state of the sport? I can’t tell you how many emails I get each week saying, “I’m no longer a NASCAR fan because of A, B, and C.” It’s alarming.

And trust me: it’s not because they’re broke.

Did You Notice? … That with the way Tony The Tiger’s been sniping at the media lately, you’d think his whole season’s been one soggy bowl of rotting Frosted Flakes. But ever so quietly, the sport’s slowest starter has climbed up to fifth in points, fresh off a runner-up Bristol finish that also served as his first top 5 of the season. Just 89 points off Harvick’s pace, the sophomore slump everyone’s talking about at Stewart-Haas may simply be limited to Ryan Newman’s No. 39 when you look at the numbers. Just sneak a peek at Stewart’s Cup career through the first five races since his rookie year:

Tony Stewart critics think the owner/driver was off to a rough start in 2010. But looking at the stats, it looks like it’s the driver himself who gets the last laugh.

1999: 0 wins, 1 top 5, 1 top 10, 14th in points
2000: 0 wins, 3 top 5s, 3 top 10s, 6th in points
2001: 0 wins, 1 top 5, 1 top 10, 15th in points
2002: 1 win, 3 top 5s, 3 top 10s, 12th in points
2003: 0 wins, 2 top 5s, 4 top 10s, 2nd in points
2004: 0 wins, 2 top 5s, 3 top 10s, 3rd in points
2005: 0 wins, 1 top 5, 3 top 10s, 3rd in points
2006: 0 wins, 2 top 5s, 2 top 10s, 9th in points
2007: 0 wins, 1 top 5, 3 top 10s, 12th in points
2008: 0 wins, 1 top 5, 3 top 10s, 7th in points
2009: 0 wins, 0 top 5s, 3 top 10s, 7th in points
2010: 0 wins, 1 top 5, 3 top 10s, 5th in points

As you can see, Smoke’s current start is in line with past years and better than 2009, when he wound up dominating the summer and coasting in as the regular season points champ. People say Stewart hasn’t won a race yet. So what? Only one of his 37 career victories have ever come within the first five races. And considering the upcoming spoiler switch, he’ll have access to data from Hendrick simulations likely to keep them at or near the front of the pack.

So why has Stewart been grouchy with the media if things are going so peachy? That’s anybody’s guess. But it’s not because he’s slumping on the race track … I’m sure of it.

Did You Notice? … No need to get too long this week, so some quick hits before I go:

- The #1 buzzword coming out of this spoiler test so far? Stability. Drivers feel more comfortable with the handling of the car, and the drag down the straightaways will keep both RPMs and speeds lower. That’s a good thing, because if the drivers don’t feel like the car will snap around smack in the middle of the turn, chances are there’ll be more side-by-side racing … at least until people start thinking about the risks involved with losing points for the Chase. Oh man, we were almost getting somewhere…

- Lance McGrew and Dale Earnhardt, Jr. fighting on the radio might be the best thing to ever happen to the No. 88. I’ve been saying for years someone needs to do just that, lighting a fire under Earnhardt while he’s in the driver’s seat. And guess what … it worked! The second NASCAR’s Most Popular Driver got hot under the collar, he drove like a bat out of you-know-what! (Hint: The opposite of heaven). If I were McGrew, I’d keep this lesson in my back pocket and have a barrage of insults to throw at the man whenever needed. It’s called tough love … and it’s just about the only thing they haven’t tried to get this guy running back up front.

- If NASCAR’s going to throw out more speeding penalties than your local cops, the least they can do is show us the data that makes it legit. Because the more people that get caught, the more it becomes an issue – and fans will begin to criticize that all-important “grey area” that can lead one to believe this sport keeps on playing favorites.

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03/24/2010 01:04 AM

NA$CAR needs, more than anything else, to turn the officiating over to an independent body.

Create a system like MLB and NFL has. It is crazy that the owners of the sport, who also own most of the tracks, also control the Officials.

Make a rule book, print it, then turn it over to an independent body, with total autonomy, and final say, and let the chips fall how they may.

Only then will you begin to make the sport legitimate.

Bad Wolf
03/24/2010 01:17 AM

We used to pull the camper to a couple of races a year and make a week out of it, but after Brain France, the COT and the Chase we don’t go any more.

I used to watch every race on TV live, but after Brain France, the COT, The Chase and the morons in the Fox booth I don’t watch much live anymore, and Fast Forward through the boring parts later.

We used to have a yearly bash for the Bristol night race, but after the COT, The Chase and wondering what the hell we just watched after the first race after the repave we no longer have a bash for the Bristol night race.

I used to be in a couple fantasy pools each year for Nascar, but after Brain France, The COT, The Chase and the morons in the Fox booth I lost all interest in Nascar pools.

It’s not the economy, but the product on the track and the clowns running the show.

03/24/2010 02:13 AM

I agree with Bad Wolf, for over 10 years between 25-30 friends from around the country would meet in Bristol in Aug. this year NO One renewed their tix. Alot of us “older fans” have been complaining for years about the product and the chase and nascar just “laughed at us”. Well now we are voting with our money to no long buy “this product” and nascar is blaming the economy. nascar open your eyes and clean out your ears this dog don’t hunt.

03/24/2010 07:19 AM

Well, Bristol can’t sell tickets. Let’s movet he races away from Bristol.

According to your data listed above NASCAR better move a race from Bristol and send it to Pocono. The only tack to climb in attendance over the past 5.

03/24/2010 07:46 AM

I’m still at a complete loss as to why NASCAR doesn’t implement a pit road speed limiter—and their BS argument that it can lead to traction control is absurd, it can be a completely sealed unit that’s provided by NASCAR out of driver and crew’s reach, checked before and after each race. The ONLY reason pit road speed limits exist is safety, so NASCAR should be doing their utmost best to make sure it works right—rather than giving out twelve penalties a race, how about none, so these guys can race?

Of course we know why—it mixes up the field, and with most races being boring and having little competitive passing, sometimes the only way to mix up the top 5 is to have speeding penalties drop them to the back. Sucks.

03/24/2010 08:21 AM

A common theme in all the above responses, and I do agree: nascrap, now a days, sucks!!

03/24/2010 10:01 AM

I cannot believe you are comparing NASCAR to college football attendance. Made me want to quit reading the article right then. Then you just throw out two stats from U of Michigan and U of Alabama, pretty extensive research there to form an opinion around. Sorry but I disagree completely with your reasoning or lack there of in this piece.

03/24/2010 11:56 AM

I saw Dutton’s article concerning Stewart’s “grumpiness” with the media lately…although he has a “history” with the press..maybe this time it’s got nothing to do with the press persay…there are so many things that go on in a person’s life that isn’t associated with their “place of work” but we are human and if things are pressing on us hard crosses over to our “outside life”. I can’t imagine being in a position the drivers are..having to air their lives weekly before the public..and while it IS part of their has to be difficult at times. AND..sorry guys..I have listened to alot of the press conferences..and alot of the media DON’T do their homework..and the questions are inane and really silly at times…I get tired of listening to them myself. I don’t know..maybe someone in the press knows what the deal is..maybe someone ticked Stewart off royally..who knows…I am sure it will all smooth out eventually… it certainly isn’t the end of the world!

Carl D.
03/24/2010 11:59 AM

My neighbor and three of his friends went to Bristol last weekend. He said it was unseasonably cold there and that he froze his ass off all weekend. I don’t know how much that affected attendance, but I’m sure it didn’t help.

03/24/2010 12:10 PM

Wonderful article that takes the “checkered flag” with statistics. Numbers do not lie, except to Eddie Gossage, Bruton Smith and Brian France, in their rainbow colored glasses.
NASCAR refuses to morph into present day thinking and still believes it can be successful with “1960’s programs”, $8.00 lemonades and expensive bleacher seats
The end is near…
I just wonder. Do the drivers sense the impending demise of their profession?

03/24/2010 01:03 PM

Pertaining to the pit road speeding penalties. Certain drivers (no names listed) NEVER get a speeding penalty. I like the fact that nas$car is listening to fans and changing the COS back to where we MIGHT get some side by side racing at tracks that seem to discourage it. The chase, the COS, and Brian France seem to be the common theme regarding the slow death of nas$car. No, not seem to be. They are the reason. The re-paving they did at Bristol and the crappy results should wake the powers that be up.

03/24/2010 01:04 PM

@Bad Wolf, I agree with you 100%

@CarlD Your neighbor froze his ass off “all weekend”? Really? it was 70 degrees on Saturday, is he from the tropics or something? Even Sunday wasnt bad, we had a few sprinkles, but the temps were in the 60’s. Have him go sit at a race in the 40’s or worse than he can bitch!

Bristol is not Bristol anymore. Sad but true. I have been attending Bristol races since 95 and races in general since 1980. While I am still relatively young (early 40’s) I think I fall in the group of long time fans. The racing is BORING!!! Bristol was one of the places you were always guaranteed a fabulous show. But someone decided reconfiguring the track would be better. Way wrong answer. Never did I think Bristol’s dates would ever be in danger, but after this past Sunday, if you think their spring date is safe your crazy.

And let me repeat, while off the subject, I am from KY and do not want to see Kentucky get a cup race! We need more unique tracks on the schedule, not more 1.5 mile cookie cutters!

03/24/2010 02:22 PM

it’s the products and na$car in general.

i have a friend in maine, she usually comes south every other year and we attend races. she hasn’t been south in 4 yrs. she was talking about the fall race at ams. i told her i’m ok with it but before i plunk down my hard earned cash for seats i want to see how the car with the spoiler runs and if races are any better. this past week she said “why bother, its’ all the same”.

then on top of it you’ve got jr who needs to be yelled at to motivate and then doesn’t get it, he thinks he does enough. well with an attitude like that “why bother”. i think i read where dw suggested he run a truck race or two. jr says he doesn’t need to run truck race and sees no need in doing so. heck, his father would have raced bicycles for a trophy. think jr doesn’t like loose race car cause he’s forgotten when he started and running dirt tracks? there’s plenty of racers who will run dirt race on their weekend off. jr doesn’t even do the stewart charity race.

attitudes like that make jr fans that were his father’s feel like “why bother”. driver doesn’t care. he’s got enough money.

it’s real simple na$car….it’s the product, it’s tires that won’t last a tire run, it’s high concession prices, high hotel prices. why spend hundreds of dollars when i can watch at home and get a nap in on the couch vs. napping in the stands?

03/24/2010 02:42 PM

A few points on attendance:

- NFL attendance was down last year ( source ). NBA attendance is down at the mid-point as is the NHL

-While not every person at a college football game is a student or alum and not every person at a NASCAR race is poor country folks, the difference in demographics does make for a very poor comparision.

- It would be interesting to see the progression in ticket prices for the past ten years for the tracks from which you sampled attendance. I just checked up on Dover and a ticket that cost me $38 ten years ago (when I was a junior enlisted military guy now costs $96 (156% increase; in that time-frame the salary of an E-3 has gone up “only” 40%).

-With all that said, I do agree with the point that there’s more to the downturn in attendance than the economy. There’s a lot else going on here.

03/24/2010 02:53 PM

I have to agree the weather at Bristol this year was in the top 5 best of last 13 years, I remember the year it snowed and also more then once I had more ice in the cooler in the morning then I had the night before, temps in the teens at night. And highs in the 40’s.

03/24/2010 02:57 PM

The one true comparison is the U of MI. Attendance stayed steady and the past three seasons or more have not been “good” seasons. The football team sucked. Yet attendance did not suffer thus we were still entertained.
This is what NASCAR is missing the boat on the racing is not entertaining. In reality my wife is very happy that the past couple years I have not planted my backside watching the races. We are doing other things. mught catch part of a race beginning, middle or end but rarely watch the whole thing.

Carl D.
03/24/2010 03:08 PM

My neighbor is from upstate NY, so go figure. Maybe living in SC for the past year or so has already changed him. He was camping in a tent, so maybe it was the nightime cold he was complaining about. I dunno.

Richard in N.C.
03/24/2010 03:22 PM

It may not be the only reason, but the economy is definitely a big reason for the decline in entertainment attendance. There is an old saying that “you can prove anything with numbers or the Bible.” If you wanted to make a really unbiased comparison why didn’t you also list the attendance figures for Michigan State, Auburn, and some other football programs?

03/24/2010 03:55 PM

There are probably 100 elephants in the room. What else can they/you do but ignore them and hope they just quietly disapear over time? Talking about the elephants would open up a big can of really ugly worms. Its obvious they/you can’t go that route.

03/24/2010 03:57 PM

Nobody has mentioned this but points racing is really hurting the races at Bristol. Everywhere really. Guys are more worried about points for the almighty Chase than trying to get up front to win a race. Before the Chase, in order to win the Championship you had to get more points than the other guys for all the races. Now its just get enough to get in and don’t worry about trying to win. The car doesn’t help either but points racing has hurt the product alot

03/24/2010 04:06 PM

Since the “common template” car and now the CoT, I just can not stand it any longer. I long for the days when Jack Roush would lobby for changes to the T-Bird to make it more compedative to the Lumina and later the Monte Carlo. I have not bought a die cast since the change to the CoT, I do not own one, I do not want one. When Brian France leaves, I will return. OH, and lets not forget selling N. Wilksboro, Rockingham, and to some extent, Darlington down the river.

norfolk john
03/24/2010 04:25 PM

I have been a fan since the late 60s,going to Richmond before it was paved and other tracks in the spring when one day it was 70 and the next icey and snowing.I have read many reasons for drop in attendence.I myself have not renewed my season tickets to martinsville or richmond and not due to economy,Jimmy Johnston winning all those championships/races,hotel cost.I basically lost interest since restrictor plates,coookie cutter tracks,poor tv analysts/time scheduling,cot,to many rule changes,garanteed top 35 but most of all Nascar turned their back on the fans.I also put track owners in that same catagory with price gouging,track closures and race relocation.Tom can work out on your abacus how much they have lost with all these great inovations?Thanks for the time and space.

03/24/2010 05:49 PM

All i know for sure is that the decline in the popularity of NASCAR began almost exactly the day that Brian France took over and FOX came on board . Coincidence…… i doubt it .

03/24/2010 06:44 PM

I will begin by saying that I am a blindly-focused Jr. fan. I have not agreed with some of the calls Lance has made and said so, especially last fall. On the other hand, I was very happy to see him stand by Jr. in the intro events before the race. He doesn’t have to and he is not there to get his picture on tv. Good for Lance! :) It is a good thing that some of the people talking about the language didn’t have to grow up with my big brother. With all of Nascar’s money I wonder why the timers are not a constant steady speed instead of timing lines…? The gizmos are on the cars already and they have to work for the Race Traxer. Seems odd.

Richard in N.C.
03/24/2010 06:53 PM

You can blame Brian France for a lot of things, but it was Burton Smith who set out to and did kill North Wilkesboro, with the help of Bob Bahre and the members of the media who knowingly or unknowingly bought their lies.

03/24/2010 07:37 PM

Progressive banking has ruined Bristol and turned it into a mini Michigan. Not sure what they can do about that but they need to do SOMETHING to fix it. When they do, the place will sell out again poor economy or not.
Oh yeah, I was there and the weather was great all weekend minus a few sprinkles on Sunday.

03/24/2010 08:41 PM

Poster Mark is spot on.

03/24/2010 09:14 PM

I like the side by side racing since the repaving ( not a fan of $100 tickets for demo derby ). I believe the cot and the chase have hurt Bristol more then the repaving.

03/24/2010 11:04 PM

I think all the cookie cutter tracks was the start of the decline but at least you could always look forward to the short tracks. Now theyve changed bristol and there is no longer racing there. What they need to do is bring back N.Wilksboro and Rockingham and give Darlington back its labor day date .Nascar trying to get into every big market has hurt them.
I think the biggest reason TV veiwership is down is the broadcasters between digger and boogidy boogidy boogidy i cant hardly watch fox

03/25/2010 12:13 AM

I didn’t watch Bristol race. Did watch some of the “Pot Hole Bowl” from Daytona. Alot of what I’ve read I agree with. For years other sport tried to figure out a way to model NASCAR’s success, then someone came along and decided to try and copy other sports, ie play offs, etc. I don’t watch anymore because its no longer a race, its a SHOW. The top 35 crap is just that, CRAP. It is now a spec series, all the same cars. Most of the drivers are muli-millionaires, they are well paid whether they dig hard every lap or not.Its got nothing to do with RACING any more, its just a BIG MONEY MACHINE, not doing well lately. And as for Brian France, well, lets just say that if he were to cut off his own head, he wouldn’t be any dumber. Well that’s enough for this rant, its getting late.

03/25/2010 08:21 AM

the chase sucks look how many drivers got hosed out of a championship

03/25/2010 10:45 AM

I agree with tim, the cookie cutters are a large contributor to the fact that races can become boring. The chase and resultant points racing certainly has exacerbated that as well. Me? I don’t really care who wins the championship. I care about who won the last race and I want to see good racing for that win.

On another note, I am sick and tired of being told what I should like by “the media.” Apparently the flocks of people becoming disinterested in Nascar are as dumb as the day is long. “You should be grateful that you can witness JJ making history.” Oh yeah? I’ve got two words… “boring… predicable.” I’m also told that I should also be thankful that people are not winning races by laps and laps… maybe that’s because wins don’t really count for much these days. My question is “Why did I like nascar racing so much more in the ESPN and TNN era?” My advice to Nascar and it’s lap dog media members, WAKE UP and seek professional attention before you bleed to death.

03/25/2010 11:49 AM

Just LMAO that attendance is up at the track “most hated” by media & many drivers.

03/25/2010 02:27 PM

I have season tickets for texas, but hotel prices stop me from going anywhere else. So for me it is partly due to hotel price gouging.


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